Posted on 01/26/2012 10:53:52 AM PST by wagglebee
Again though, I forget, were talking about *your* issues so it is ok to be a little hypocritical.
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Where on this thread did you see anyone post anything even approaching what you are accusing us all of?
What are you talking about? The only person who has mentioned Williams (whoever he is) is you.
Yea, how dare Saul change his name to defend the man who’s followers he murdered.
The Hippocrit! /s
We forgive those who see the error of their ways, which one of us have nOt sinned?
I am more pro life then most people I know. I even believe abortion is wrong in the case of incest or rape.
I am the product of a rape, had abortion been legal when I was born in the 1950’s, then I would not be here today.
However, I forgive her, and I thank God that she has seen the truth before she had more abortions.
Shame on you, shame on you for not forgiving.
I guess you will be voting for Romney, because Newt is a sinning adulterer. Me, I forgive him, because like this woman, she asked God to forgive her. That is why Christ shed his blood on Calvary, so we can be forgiven.
I don’t think it’s fair to compare emotionally compromised women who are often pressured and coerced into having abortions to that of serial killers and sexual predators.
I don’t know if she was pressured or not, but I’ll entertain the possibility of that.
As a repentant murderer, she makes an effective spokeswoman because she's "been there" - not because pro-lifers think it's great (or even a matter of indifference) that she had abortions.
All while dismissing the same tactics by the left when they talk about repentant child molesters, rapists and murderers of the born.
When do the left do that? Exactly which "repentant child molesters, rapists and murderers of the born" are you talking about?
“...I am very not convinced her and other abortionist wouldnt again kill their unborn if the opportunity presented themselves.”
I doubt very much that she would ever have another abortion. I don’t know where you get it that she’s just itching to slaughter another baby.
What would you have this woman do? Go hide out in her home forever in shame?
Do you not believe that her sins will be forgiven?
Isn’t she, who knows the emotional pain that abortion causes, the ideal person to advance the pro-life message?
So forgiveness can only be applied when levied against me on this issue? He was a killer in prison who “realized the error of his ways” in prison. The point being, liberals make this exact argument to defend having shady people and are ridiculed for it by conservatives. Only to have us, for our issues, do the exact same thing. The difference I see between myself and many of you, is that abortion is murder to me and I think should be a jailable offense carrying capital punishment.
Sad how I am villianized but an abortionist is touted...you people have your priorities pot on. I mean I’m just calling for life to be appreciated and respected...but these women not only are calling for the same thing, but have killed innocent people..yay them!
Unfortunately, abortion is not illegal. Murder, rape, and child molestation are.
A murderer can go to heaven, but the state can still put him or her (Carla Faye Tucker, for example) to death. There are consequences to every sin, whether it is obvious or not. If we have broken man’s law, by man we are punished. If we have broken God’s law, as all of us have, to God we must answer.
While it would be better if man’s law and God’s law were in perfect harmony, God does grant certain authority to the state to punish evildoers and to protect the innocent (Romans 13).
You seem a little confused.
http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org
Jesus forgave us and taught us to forgive, we should follow Him.
By your rhetoric, it is apparent the pro-life cause is not your issue.
Forgiveness is part and parcel of the Judeo-Christian heritage on which this country was founded.
If you have a problem with pro-lifers or the forgiveness explicit in our Judeo-Christian heritage, then you will not last long on FreeRepublic. The attitudes you are expressing on this thread certainly do not belong on this forum.
I’m thinking you should review the quote on your own home page again.
I would also be interested to hear of your efforts in trying to turn young women away from abortion.
She is a repentant abortionist. She is not being celebrated for having an abortion. She is being admired for recognizing that what she did was wrong, and taking action to make amends.
God no longer views her as "an abortionist", but as a saved sinner seeking grace.
At one time, this woman had an abortion. The abortion was performed by an abortionist.
This woman is not an abortionist.
Definition of ABORTIONIST
I don’t know if Tookie Williams accepted Christ into his life, but I hope he did. And it’s well known that serial killer and cannibal Jeffery Dahmer was saved before death.
Does this piss you off? Would you refuse to enter Heaven if Tookie and Dahmer are there?
You sound very angry today.
If liberals had him speaking from prison on the wrongness of murder and how it should be illegal, I'd be all for that. I'm not sure what it is liberals did with regard to this guy, but I doubt it compares to how pro-lifers are putting this woman forward as a spokesperson.
I’d like to refer you to your own homepage.
'Williams protests that he has no reason to apologize for these murders because he did not commit them. [...]
'The dedication of Williams book Life in Prison casts significant doubt on his personal redemption. This book was published in 1998, several years after Williams claimed redemptive experience. Specifically, the book is dedicated to Nelson Mandela, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, Assata Shakur, Geronimo Ji Jaga Pratt, Ramona Africa, John Africa, Leonard Peltier, Dhoruba Al-Mujahid, George Jackson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, and the countless other men, women, and youths who have to endure the hellish oppression of living behind bars. The mix of individuals on this list is curious. Most have violent pasts and some have been convicted of committing heinous murders, including the killing of law enforcement.
'But the inclusion of George Jackson on this list defies reason and is a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems. There is also little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture. One would expect more explicit and direct reference to this byproduct of his former lifestyle in Williams writings and apology for this tragedy, but it exists only through innuendo and inference.'
STATEMENT OF DECISION
Request for Clemency by Stanley Williams
Your argument makes no sense at all. Did you venture onto this thread simply to whine and insult others?
She made a mistake and she is admitting it. She and millions of women since Roe vs wade have made the same mistake.
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