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Elliot Abrams Caught Misleading on Newt (Lying about Newt for Romney)
The American Spectator ^ | 1/27/12 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 01/27/2012 10:17:19 AM PST by KansasGirl

As Ronald Reagan used to say: Well. Yesterday we took note of former Reagan State Department official Elliott Abrams' piece over at NRO that went after Newt Gingrich on his relationship with Reagan. While voting regularly with Reagan as a young congressman from Georgia, Gingrich, claimed Abrams, "often spewed insulting rhetoric at Reagan, his top aides and his policies to defeat Communism." Abrams then goes on to cite " a famous floor statement Gingrich made on March 21, 1986." Or sort of cites it.  In fact, I'm sorry to say, what appears to be going on here is that Elliott Abrams, a considerably admirable public servant and a very smart guy, has been swept up in the GOP Establishment's Romney frothings over the rise of Newt Gingrich in the Republican primaries. He is even being accused of trolling for a job in a Romney administration. No way!!!! Really????

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So now I've read the Gingrich speech that is the source of all the hoopla. All seven, fine print pages worth of it exactly as it appeared in its original form. I can only say that what Elliott Abrams wrote in NRO about Newt Gingrich based on this long ago speech is not worthy of Elliott Abrams. Specifically, Abrams implies that Newt Gingrich was spewing mindless vitriol about Reagan on the House floor. Not only not so, it was quite to the contrary. Of President Reagan, Gingrich says:

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1 posted on 01/27/2012 10:17:21 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl
Problem is the damage is done. I classify all these liers as communists because they want to endorse Romney, the liberal RINO. There is no way we can undue this damage before voting. Newt is going to have a hard time pulling this off without the GOP voters realizing that it is not only the MSM, Democrats, and much of the Establishment GOP that is putting Newt down.
2 posted on 01/27/2012 10:21:22 AM PST by Logical me
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To: KansasGirl

Now maybe Jeff Lords can turn his insight into an examination of his boss’s Newt-bashing.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 10:23:17 AM PST by newheart (What this country needs is a good dose of bran. Attack Muffins Unite!)
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To: KansasGirl

How many of those organized to release anti-Newt material on Black-Thursday will end up with egg on their lying faces?

Were their actions the result of love/money or blackmail?


4 posted on 01/27/2012 10:24:04 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Logical me

Let me see misleading and outright lying ads, and a health care plan. Sound like anybody else you know?


5 posted on 01/27/2012 10:24:14 AM PST by jimpick
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To: Logical me

Yes, the damage is done. It is unforgivable, imo. Newt was one of Reagan’s biggest defenders and they smear him as anti-Reagan. LIARS!


6 posted on 01/27/2012 10:25:05 AM PST by KansasGirl (Romney to Santorum: Obamneycare "nothing to get angry about".)
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To: KansasGirl
I am still ticked about these LIES. And anybody ‘covering up’ for these liars is no better. Imagine that, they the gop establishment have been calling Newt, Clinton without a personality... but it was the LIES that tripped up old Clinton ‘ethically’.... ‘challenged’... AND these hypocrites are LIARS!!!!
7 posted on 01/27/2012 10:25:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: KansasGirl
I think what we saw yesterday (bloody Thursday) was not so much an attempt to persuade with the substance of the accusations, it was more psychological ....the shear mass was meant to be the payload. As time goes on and the lies are put to rest the Romney camp will have very little to use going forward. If Newt can weather this storm and turn it around on Romney, make him out to be a liar, Newt will once again rise from the ashes.....
8 posted on 01/27/2012 10:25:19 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: jimpick

Was it just me, or did Romney’s defense of ORomneycare last night sound just like Obama’s defense of Obamacare?


9 posted on 01/27/2012 10:27:50 AM PST by KansasGirl (Romney to Santorum: Obamneycare "nothing to get angry about".)
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To: jimpick
It's using the Alinsky/Lenin/Axelrod meme technique.

Greta is riding on Newt's bus today and her show tonight will feature Newt.

10 posted on 01/27/2012 10:27:50 AM PST by hoosiermama
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11 posted on 01/27/2012 10:29:27 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: KansasGirl; All
"Was it just me, or did Romney’s defense of ORomneycare last night sound just like Obama’s defense of Obamacare?"


12 posted on 01/27/2012 10:30:48 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: hoosiermama
Were their actions the result of love/money or blackmail?

I have difficulty understand why the anti-Newt people would get involved in a concerted effort to torpedo a candidate with lies. Could you expand a bit on the "blackmail" idea. Who would be blackmailing whom?

I have wondered if they are afraid of Newt because he probably knows "too much."

13 posted on 01/27/2012 10:35:12 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: KansasGirl

So I’m guessing Drudge has this up with a siren, right?


14 posted on 01/27/2012 10:35:57 AM PST by cincinnati65 (We've been taken for a ride - by Wall Street and Washington DC - Welcome to Amerika!)
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To: KansasGirl

It wasn’t just you.

Similarly, Ann Coulter’s defense of Romneycare last night (on her Twitter feed) was just like Paul Begala’s defense of Obamacare.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 10:37:35 AM PST by oblomov
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To: musicman

16 posted on 01/27/2012 10:41:13 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: KansasGirl
VIDEO for discussion only. (I got this from Rush's site)

Newt advises GHWB not to follow in Reagan's footsteps, because he will lose, and because "the country has changed."

"Newt Gingrich bad-mouths Ronald Reagan in 1988"

17 posted on 01/27/2012 10:48:06 AM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Ann Coulter is a joke.)
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To: RoosterRedux
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money: contributions to sitting congress critters PAC in exchange for endorsements. Advertisements (Drudge)For all the attention Romney is pointing toward Newt re: lobbyist, Newt knows whose wife, child etc are getting paid to lobby and the unhealthy atmosphere that creates (Lenin: accuse others of the things you are doing)*

Love/hate: It is no secret the Newt upended the establishment in DC last time he was there. Yes, he knows where the bodies are buried. Michael Reagan went into great detail yesterday of the conflict between the Goldwater/Rockefeller republicans. Also * above

There is always so many “relationships” in politics. Who's sleeping to the top with whom. Who's not what they profess to be. Always opens itself to blackmail. Clinton's extra activities were most damaging which of our enemies knew and could blackmail him into a conflicting action for our country. The lobbying also plays here.

18 posted on 01/27/2012 10:49:24 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: KansasGirl

My question is, why is anything coming out of the media being accepted as fact? I see it here on FR so damn often ( I have even been guilty ) the media are lying whores, period.....as my gramps used to say, “ On the ladder of morality, a reporter is two rungs below a pimp. You see, a pimp would never sell his mother, and a pimp would never sell his sister, but a reporter would sell both to get a story.”... gramps was smart


19 posted on 01/27/2012 10:50:32 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: KansasGirl

JOKE OF THE DAY:

The top two Republican candidates are Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich.

It’s not funny, though...it’s perverse.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 10:50:55 AM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Ann Coulter is a joke.)
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To: dirtboy

When the Republican establishment resort to bald-faced lies, the rubicon has been crossed. I don’t see any way that the GOP is going to be able to put this humpty-dumpty back together if they’re successful in pushing Romney across the finish line. They’ve irreversibly poisoned the well. I predict a massive backlash against Romney if he becomes the candidate and a catastrophe in November.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 10:51:03 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: hoosiermama

What venue/link can viewers see Michael Reagan discuss the conflict between the Goldwater/Rockefeller republicans?


22 posted on 01/27/2012 10:55:49 AM PST by wtd
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To: KansasGirl

I am very disappointed in Drudge. Ann Coulter has been drifting into some strange territory for some time, but I’ve never seen Drudge push lies like this before.

Someone posted a thread last night saying that Drudge had posted Michael Reagan’s comments, but when I went there I couldn’t find them. But the lies were still up at the top.

Now Drudge has moved the anti-Newt stuff down his page, but he’s still not admitting that Eliot Abrams lied.


23 posted on 01/27/2012 11:04:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: KansasGirl

All these Skull and Bone morons are lying bastards.


24 posted on 01/27/2012 11:05:04 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: hoosiermama

We blame the GOP Establishment for relentlessly pushing Romney down our throats. And we also have noted the ideological similarities between the Alinskyites Obama and Romney.

Without getting conspiratorial, I think it’s worth considering who might be behind the Establishments of both parties.

Although Soros is routinely flogged, I don’t think he has the influence that some conservatives attribute to him. Nor is there a clear motive for the GOP and Dems to help Soros, even in the presence of financial incentives.

But there is a clear motive for the GOP and Dems to court China. Chinese officials have almost certainly made their preferences regarding the candidates known.


25 posted on 01/27/2012 11:05:04 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Cicero

Drudge didn’t put Michael Reagan’s dispute of the liberal lies up. It was a paid Newsmax ad!


26 posted on 01/27/2012 11:08:06 AM PST by KansasGirl (Romney to Santorum: Obamneycare "nothing to get angry about".)
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To: KansasGirl

I confess to buying into Abrams story. I repent too.


27 posted on 01/27/2012 11:08:39 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: KansasGirl

EXCELLENT FIND!!!

This has now solidified my support for the candidacy of Newt Gingrich against the vermin-infested Romney campaign and supporters!

What they are doing to Newt Gingrich is nothing short of DESPICABLE!

28 posted on 01/27/2012 11:08:39 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: KansasGirl
I have been getting the feeling as of late that the so called "GOP Elite" are really moles working for the DNC.
They seem to be doing everything they can to drive people away.
29 posted on 01/27/2012 11:10:05 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The damage is too extensive. Burn it down and start over.)
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To: oblomov

HINT: Check romney financial record....There’s a few posts tying his investments that he doesn’t know he owns into China

Also found links between Bain and Bilderberg....Does that merit foilware?


30 posted on 01/27/2012 11:10:36 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: LibFreeUSA

If anything you could say Newt was attacking Reagan from the right in this speech. Maybe his new tagline should be “Newt Gingrich: Even MORE Conservative than Reagan.”


31 posted on 01/27/2012 11:12:56 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: wtd

He was on Megin Kelly program yesterday. There may be a link at the FOX. My computer is so slow, I usually just hang around FR alot or I’d go look.


32 posted on 01/27/2012 11:14:09 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: KansasGirl
Wow! This is a real eye-opener. Not that I ever believed a word from Abrams

BECAUSE, UNLIKE MANY, I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER MR. GINGRICH and RONALD REAGAN VERY WELL, AND KNOW THAT THIS RECENT "DUMP" IS ...BULLSHIT!

The post is well-deserving of a bookmark for the permanent record of Mr. Gingrich.

33 posted on 01/27/2012 11:15:06 AM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: hoosiermama

Why wouldn’t Bain and Bilderberg be linked? Their agenda for companies (globalize, outsource non-core functional areas, lean process) is basically the Bilderberg agenda for countries. Bain courts the C-suite, and it’s the multinational corporation C-suite that participates in groups such as Bilderberg and World Economic Forum.


34 posted on 01/27/2012 11:21:55 AM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov; maggief

Much of what freepers have found on the relationship has been recently scrubbed.....Just like BO’s records. But a gal who’s last name is pronouced Ga Deeeesh seems to be the missing link between Mitt and B’berg.

It doesn’t mean much to me cause I don’t even balance my checkbook, but if it’s relavent to the business community guess you need to get the information to them. )Freepmail maggie f for the information)


35 posted on 01/27/2012 11:28:17 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: KansasGirl

Somebody needs to send this to Charles Krauthammer!


36 posted on 01/27/2012 11:30:33 AM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: KansasGirl

Someone claimed that Drudge linked to it. But the moderators closed the thread, because there was already a thread pointing to the Reagan piece. Anyway, if Drudge linked to it, he shortly after pulled the link.


37 posted on 01/27/2012 11:32:20 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: hoosiermama

Thx much for that...vy good!


38 posted on 01/27/2012 11:33:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: KansasGirl

I think there should be a running master list of all of those participating in this smear campaign, starting with:
Elliot Abrams
Ann Coulter
Bob Dole
Matt Drudge


39 posted on 01/27/2012 11:34:42 AM PST by TheRake
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To: oblomov

At the heart of both parties’ establishments is the quest for money and power, and that has resulted in a globalist outlook.

What is a “globalist”?

In the context used here, American power players and Wall Street interests have dominated international commerce and established monetary structures in a global network that requires military strength projected worldwide as protection from Third World aggression. It is commonly referred to in the media as ‘protecting US interests overseas’, but has grown far beyond that in reality as huge international conglomerates have developed and moved American jobs overseas. These conglomerates have become more international than American, going where the labor is cheap but the risks great. The requirement for security is escalating and the American people are paying for that through their taxes without any residual benefit to themselves. Globalists see themselves as being citizens of the world and don’t care about anyone’s rights.

It has in the past been neither conservative nor liberal in orientation and both Democrats and Republicans have been involved over the decades.

Basically, it is all about money and power.

The last thing that either political group wants is for conservatives with Bibles and guns asserting their God-given rights and demanding that Washington, D.C., changes how it does business.


40 posted on 01/27/2012 11:41:11 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

So who else beside Bilderberg is involved? Soros? ????


41 posted on 01/27/2012 11:51:51 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Why would a conservative who should know by now the manipulative tactics of the media believe that a video clip cut off practically in mid-sentence was not being used to mislead? See the full video here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2838352/posts


42 posted on 01/27/2012 12:17:26 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: SatinDoll

Not buying that theory. Most of our labor has gone to China or India I think, and our military isn’t going to be able to do anything to protect companies in places like China if those countries decide to seize them. The military build-up around the world is much more a residual effect of the Cold War. It just wouldn’t be human nature to withdraw from all that territory unilaterally, except for the kind of liberal who would give up the Panama Canal. We have international free trade because producers will always be looking to lower costs and find new markets. Free trade means Americans have to study and work harder to compete and I don’t see anything wrong with that.

I think this is an ideological war within the party between the Rockefeller moderates and the Goldwater conservatives, plain and simple. It is the tax-hikers like Bush, Sr. and Dole and the social liberals who want no criticism against abortion or gays who are driving the anti-Newt campaign. Romney is one of them and Newt is not. I think this wing has become more and more socially liberal over the years, and gay marriage could become a huge dividing line in the party.


43 posted on 01/27/2012 12:25:40 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: hoosiermama
Bilderberg? Soros?

I'm not into conspiracies, though I certainly perceive one behind the emergence and promotion of BHO2, who is an anti-globalist (communist). Globalism is real, and for more information a good read is the book “The Pentagon's New Map” (2004), by Thomas Barnett, a former DOD policy wonk.

What I see happening in this nation is a core group of people with little in the way of Judeo/Christian morality or allegiance to the United States, using our government to enrich themselves. Among them are those who unfortunately see the United States and its Constitution thwarting the institution of a global government via the United Nations.

I believe this last statement to be true, BUT establishing a global government is an enormous undertaking and by its nature would be totalitarian and oppressive in operation and it isn't going to happen anytime soon.

The specter of a worldwide economic collapse is certain, and therein lies the danger. Our economy will follow suit, as it is closely interconnected with Europe's and the resulting chaos of a collapse will provide an opening for dictatorship and tyranny. We must be on our guard, because a dictatorship and tyranny is not inevitable in America, where the concept of God-given rights exists.

44 posted on 01/27/2012 12:36:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: JediJones

I strongly suggest you look over Thomas Barnett’s book, “The Pentagon’s New Map” (2004), written when Barnett was working as a policy wonk for GW Bush’s Department of Defense.

He goes into detail about the need for a military defense of aligned nations to promote globalism as the Cold War ceased to be a factor world wide. Barnett was working on a new goal for the Navy when 9/11 occurred, and that tragedy changed the military’s global projection of power post 2000.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 12:55:50 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: oblomov

Now you are in Ron Paul territory.


46 posted on 01/27/2012 1:00:07 PM PST by Warthog-2 (Character Counts)
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To: Logical me

Try getting down on your knees and praying quietly to Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and ask Him to see to it that Newt wins the election.


47 posted on 01/27/2012 1:08:36 PM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: KansasGirl
Cut this "admirable public servant" crap. Abrams was a high level flunkie who plea bargained two misdemeanor charges with Lawrence Walsh to avoid being indicted on multiple felonies. He was our flunkie then, but that's all he was. Now he just hangs out at various think tanks and probably would be glad for a position with the Regime.
48 posted on 01/27/2012 1:55:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: boomop1
Skull and Bones is a secret society at Yale. Abrams went to --you guessed it--Harvard Law school.
49 posted on 01/27/2012 2:00:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: joe fonebone

That sounds farmilar.....GG


50 posted on 01/27/2012 2:26:36 PM PST by goat granny
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