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Kagan Defended ObamaCare As Solicitor General - Case closed on recusal.
Human Events ^ | 01/27/2012 | John Hayward

Posted on 01/27/2012 2:47:35 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Here is the bigger question. Has she told her fellow jurists the same lie. If so will they see this a as breach of ethics and sanction her?


21 posted on 01/27/2012 4:39:47 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Verginius Rufus

“. . .and Kagan’s female. . .”

Are you sure. . . .?


22 posted on 01/27/2012 4:43:08 PM PST by Hulka
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To: neverdem

Did she state before her confirmation hearing that she had nothing to do with the health care law???


23 posted on 01/27/2012 4:47:25 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather
Who will sanction her?
I don't think the other members of the SCOTUS have any real jurisdiction over each other. I think the Chief Justices sole duty is to assign who writes the opinions.
Certain positions in the USG require a sense of honor in the participants, that characteristic is lacking in the left. Remember in their minds no non-Marxist (or socialist) institution or custom has legitimacy. Therefore rules mores or customs that support those institutions need not be followed.

If she does not recuse herself from the Obamacare hearings she must be impeached and removed from the bench. If this is not done there no longer will ba any such thing as judicial conflict of interest. We should have a GOP Congress, the questions is will they have the balls to do it.

24 posted on 01/27/2012 4:55:27 PM PST by Reily
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To: Walkingfeather

It’s a shame she’s not honorable enough to put this question away now. That said, if she hasn’t recused by the time the case is heard, Plaintiff’s counsel and others should submit Kagan’s amicus brief into the Supreme Course record and reference it in their arguments. If she’s on the bench when Plaintiff’s counsel makes oral arguments, counsel’s first words should specifically reference her and point to some argument or parallel to the current case in her amicus brief (i.e. as Solicitor General Kagan argued in her amicus brief dated...). If she does not recuse - file bar complaints and go after her law license.

This business reeks. That said, if she is on the bench at oral argument and is in so many words called out by plaintiff’s counsel, then the court does not strike down the law on multiple grounds, the afterhocks might well end the Obama administration even if it may have otherwise survived. The alternative in that instance, which would be the demise of the courts as a third branch of government and check against excesses of the other two branches, is too terrible to imagine.


25 posted on 01/27/2012 5:02:37 PM PST by vrwconspiracist (The Tax Man cometh)
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To: neverdem
Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy.” <<<

I see the loop hole!...2nd word!...it says “he”

Gonna need a TSA employee with latex gloves to make a ruling...

26 posted on 01/27/2012 5:37:28 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: neverdem
Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy.” <<<

I see the loop hole!...2nd word!...it says “he”

Gonna need a TSA employee with latex gloves to make a ruling...

27 posted on 01/27/2012 5:37:46 PM PST by M-cubed
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28 posted on 01/27/2012 5:46:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 01/27/2012 6:58:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: vrwconspiracist

I am very very conservative and I would bet she will recuse. But not until the time of the case. She will embarrass the court.


30 posted on 01/27/2012 7:00:31 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: M-cubed

LOL


31 posted on 01/27/2012 7:20:55 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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32 posted on 01/27/2012 9:23:46 PM PST by bitt (Socialism works great until you run out of Chinese money.)
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To: supercat
If the section were read so broadly as to suggest that her participation on one case involving Obamacare would disqualify her from hearing others, such a reading would also require that when a case comes before the court regarding a matters which the court has previously decided, any judges who were on the court when the previous case was decided would be required to recuse themselves--clearly absurd.

There's a big difference between actively defending a case and sitting on the bench while the hearing is going on.

33 posted on 01/28/2012 3:34:18 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Nachum

Kagan the plant. She’s EVIL as it SOda-mayer weiner.


34 posted on 01/28/2012 5:21:36 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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He need not fear the sword; for his coat is of proof.

DICK [aside].
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ALL.
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DICK.
The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.


35 posted on 01/28/2012 5:24:50 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: neverdem

Bump


36 posted on 01/28/2012 5:33:51 AM PST by KC Burke (Newton's New First Law, Repeal and Restore!)
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To: neverdem
In my opinion, the chances of recusing herself are higher than the chances of the sun rising in the west.

My personal belief is that it will be held as "Constitutional". Which will please both the Republican and Democrat Parties.

37 posted on 01/28/2012 5:41:59 AM PST by sport
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38 posted on 01/28/2012 5:43:33 AM PST by narses
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Thanks neverdem.


39 posted on 01/28/2012 6:06:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: kabar

I guess the individual mandate would be deemed unconstitutional, and the president would not be able to enforce it, in districts covered by the federal judicial circuit whose Court of Appeals ruled it unconstitutional, since such decision would stand; but the individual mandate would be enforceable in the circuit whose Court of Appeals ruled it constitutional. And as for other circuits, they could do whatever they wanted.

A rational president would realize that having an entire federal judicial circuit in which the individual mandate could not be enforced would cause the entire scheme to unravel, and would move to adopt a new healthcare scheme, just as he would had the Supreme Court struck it down, but we’re not dealing with a rational president.

In any event, we need to get 5 Justices to declare the individual mandate unconstitutional, and elect a Congress and a president who will repeal the entire law.


40 posted on 01/28/2012 7:31:48 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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