Posted on 01/27/2012 3:18:48 PM PST by Timber Rattler
Weird, Palin did not mention any of the figures she was attacking in general, by name did she?
The article itself is rebuke to the establishment and the major figures of Bloody Thursday, just read post 242, you can see Rush in action.
Do you have any links to anything that references what that Rush said on Thursday put him in that category? Thanks.
See post 242.
Rush played it today, I heard it.
What the heck are you going on about?
I wish this was true, but, apparently, it isn't.
You are correct that there are things about Romney that perhaps many GOP voters don't know. But, from all I see, they don't care.
Just as there are many freepers who don't care about Gingrich's foibles, there are many conservatives out there who don't care about Romney's.
That's very wrong on both counts, but it's the way it is in this election cycle.
The standard seems to be ONLY "who can beat Obama."
Newt obviously has done great things for the cause of conservatism, and he brings some fantastic talents to the table, but that's not what these primary voters are focused on. If he can't convince people that he can defeat Obama, they are not going to vote for him the primaries.
That is all.
The battle for the nomination is fundamentally a disagreement about which man, Romney or Gingrich, is more likely to defeat Obama. The only way "dirt" matters is if it makes it more or less likely that a candidate can defeat Obama.
You can try to dismiss my observations of the political landscape out of hand by robotically accusing me of being pro-Romney and anti-Newt, but the plain fact is that I'm just calling it like I see it.
I know it's not pretty.
Sorry, got it; thanks.
You often hear here on FR that "all the candidates are flawed," "no one is perfect."
Yet few seem to be willing to countenance that the other guy, the one who doesn't support "your" candidate, is using the exact same rationale to justify overlooking how much his candidate's stuff stinks.
At this point, I really think the "beat Obama" meme has hardened to the point that many voters are going to base their decision solely on how likely they think it is that a candidate can defeat Obama.
For months, that was the single rationale for Romney offered up by the likes of Ann Coulter et al. She thinks Romney is the one who can beat Obama. Okay, lately, she has been trying to up her game and come up with sort of reasons for supporting Romney (such as saying he's the only one who will fix immigration), but the fact is not very well hidden that all this is about is who they think, rightly or wrongly, can beat Obama.
The problem is that, as I write this, I am just back from checking the news and it looks like Gingrich is fading in Florida.
I don’t think it will necessarily be all over if Romney (or, for that matter, Gingrich) wins Florida. But “achieving inevitability” could, possibly, be within reach to either of those men next week.
Gingrich has a high mountain to climb if he loses Florida. No debates are scheduled and the next states are said to favor Romney, and there is at least one state with a lot of delegates (Michigan, IIRC) where Gingrich failed to get on the ballot.
Palin may have been pushing Newt forward — by her SC gambit — to see if he would sink or swim, intending to jump in and save the day if need be.
Hard to wrap my head around whether that would work right now!
We’ll just have to see how things develop.
Didn’t say it was a good plan.
Just observed that it’s what seems to be happening.
That said, a good plan — based on real-world observations — might be to focus on selling the electability of one’s preferred candidate. Newt MUST make this a more prominent part of his pitch or I fear he’s sunk.
It was interesting how Rush used his brother today as a foil when pressed by callers to endorse or have David endorse in his stead, a la Todd Palin; so David sent word that IF he were voting in the FL primary, he’d vote for Santorum. Don’t know if that came out before or after word about Santorum going back to PA.
That was a pretty lame defense of Romney.
‘People don’t care’, ‘people don’t need to know’, all pretty lame in defense of such a worst case candidate, such an anti-conservative, and such a failure as an elected official.
If you are going to push Romney, then put some meat behind it, overcome our objections, sell the man to us.
Where on God’s green earth did I ever say that Romney was more electable than anyone else, or even electable?
Please pay more attention so that we can actually discuss what I actually said.
Romney’s electability is the rationale of many of his supporters.
Therefore, if one wants to try to dislodge his support, yammering on about how he’s not conservative and so on just gets shrugged off by those people. THEY DON’T CARE. They want someone to defeat Obama and they have to be persuaded that Romney can’t.
Where's the evidence that his supporters, or those willing to vote for him, care?
They don't, apparently. They think Romney is more likely to defeat Obama than the other candidates, so they will vote for him..
There are many voters who don't know much about Gingrich, either, not the stuff that will come out if his candidacy continues. But they don't care. They think Gingrich is more likely to defeat Obama than the other candidates, so they will vote for him.
Yes, but at this point Palin has gone so far in endorsing Newt without saying so, that it’s getting to be a little weird.
What I mean is they are going to end up with the synergistic controversy anyway at this rate, so why not just make an honest, forthright endorsement.
(One freeper mentioned she was bound by contract not to endorse, but another said that wasn’t true. FWIW.)
Except it wasn't. A defense of Romney.
Last time I'm telling you the same thing:
It doesn't matter how lame the rationale for voting for Romney is. It's the Romney voters' rationale. And if you're trying to get Newt elected -- you ARE trying to do that, aren't you? or are you here jawboning for the sake of jawboning? -- if you're trying to get Newt elected, it's best to realize that the focus, both for and against, has to be on electability.
Good night!
I just don’t think that you are convincing anyone here to vote for and support Mitt Romney, you are going to have to bring in some red meat to convert us.
Palin is having a positive effect on the race, and is helping us against Romney, lay off her, she knows what she is doing.
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