Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Possible Alternative Paths to Nullify Obamacare???
BSoile6

Posted on 01/27/2012 9:29:00 PM PST by bsoile6

I'm an engineer, not a lawyer, so I would like to know legally how this scenario would play out - If the Supreme Court fails to carry out it's role and not strike down Obamacare, how does it get rectified with subsequent legislation such as if, say, Congress passed something like:

"No law, or regulation may compel any American citizen to engage in any form of economic activity."

Would this be another way to nullify the law? How do contradictory laws in this fashion get resolved?

Finally, if all else fails, what about the possible effectiveness of JOINING a campaign of civil disobedience to ignore Obamacare's requirements ACCOMPANIED by aggressively educating the populace of the right of Jury Nullification?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: vanity
I would greatly appreciate input on the legal viability of this.
1 posted on 01/27/2012 9:29:04 PM PST by bsoile6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

It sure does not look like the Republican part is interested in doing it. I just hope the Supreme Court does it. GO NEWT GO!


2 posted on 01/27/2012 9:31:26 PM PST by Parley Baer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

Republicans take the Senate and use the EXACT same Nuc option to kill it. Simple majority.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 9:35:14 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

Of course massive widespread non-adherence to the law would involve complete denial to the IRS of any and all information.


4 posted on 01/27/2012 9:37:56 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

Mark my words; Romney will NOT repeal Obamacare. Without either Santorum or Gingrich winning the White House, Obamacare will be the implemented permanent law of the land until the next full socialist government evolves it to full single payer socialist medicine.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 9:38:03 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

You don’t need civil disobedience.

Just do your duty as a citizen. That’s all.

If the politicians thought anybody cared beyond their sugar daddy corporatist fascist partners, they’d listen. Or better yet, put candidates up for election who put the Constitution first.

Oh but that’s not possible since everyone wants a slave built ipad and their transnational corporation to be guaranteed income by the government.


6 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:46 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

I’m not a lawyer either, but I suspect that in the case of contradictory laws, the earlier one would take precedent. However, given sufficient legal grounds, presumably older laws could be challenged as unconstitutional and thereby replaced.

That said, since Obamacare is already being challenged this way in the SC, it seems extremely unlikely that a later challenge would make it out of local courts, let alone to the district courts.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 9:40:14 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6
The 2nd Amendment.

If the individual mandate does not cause this abomination in its whole to be struck down, we are guaranteed to be permanent slaves to the federal government.

There are too many parasites to change this via the ballot box.

I wish I was mistaken. I sincerely doubt I am mistaken.

8 posted on 01/27/2012 9:45:17 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pox

{we are guaranteed to be permanent slaves to the federal government}

You are already unless you are living completely off the grid in some untamed wilderness. I doubt there are any true mountain men anymore or they would have found Bigfoot {:-)

On the other hand........


9 posted on 01/27/2012 9:54:42 PM PST by itsahoot (You are no longer a person, you are now a Unit when you need health care.{)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: All


Help End The Obama Era In 2012
Your Monthly and Quarterly Donations
Help Keep FR In the Battle!

Sponsoring FReepers are contributing
$10 Each time a New Monthly Donor signs up!
Get more bang for your FR buck!
Click Here To Sign Up Now!


10 posted on 01/27/2012 9:55:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

The main problem is the sweeping authority given to the Secretary. She in effect defines each and every provision. In effect she has plenary authority over the medical sector.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 10:04:49 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

Generally the statutory language used to accomplish the objective you described starts: “Notwithstanding any other provision of law or regulation ...”


12 posted on 01/27/2012 10:23:36 PM PST by taxcutisapayraise (Making Statism Unpopular)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: itsahoot

Society requires a certain amount of “give”, and that is acceptable to a point.

Although that point was passed a long time ago, the progression is accelerating at an alarming rate and the increasing boldness of the federal government reflects that.

Unfortunately, they understand human nature all too well.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 10:30:02 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

Welcome.


14 posted on 01/28/2012 1:06:55 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: eyedigress

Yep - Republicans can “deem it to have NOT been passed”. I would love to hear the screeching from the original “deemers” about how wrong that is....


15 posted on 01/28/2012 4:53:10 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: trebb

It wouldn’t surprise the Dems at all. Understand that the agenda is to destroy the Constitution. The fact that it has gone unchallenged when it should have been for 85 years is the point. Now precedent is setting law.


16 posted on 01/28/2012 5:08:10 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

I found this posted on an earlier thread. It is 10 minutes long and if you can bear to watch more than 5 minutes of it without getting irate, I’ll be greatly surprised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HcBaSP31Be8&vg=medium


17 posted on 01/28/2012 5:57:46 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bsoile6

bsoile6
Since Jan 27, 2012


Welcome to FR...


18 posted on 01/28/2012 7:24:40 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson