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Why does the GOP establishment want to run a moderate liberal? ( We will lose to Obama )
Christie at the beach

Posted on 01/29/2012 12:10:34 PM PST by Christie at the beach

Why would the GOP want to self destruct? The party knows most of the base cannot accept Romney due to his liberal stances, Romneycare and people don't trust him fully due to his positions going back and forth on important issues? The anybody but Obama plan will not work. Americans are sick of the same old network. Elites vs. the people. I spoke to hundreds of voters who are not going to back him in the general. Romney should never be on the top tier representing the Republican party. He needs to run against Obama as a democrat. Then we have both Bushes visiting with Obama a few days before the Florida primary. Now, I feel confident to say, they want Obama to win 4 more years. I cannot believe the forces will not unite to stop liberal Romney who is as close to Obama as one could get. Someone needs to audit the Treasury. Do you think Mr. Goldman Sachs will do that? If Rick thinks Mitt is such a bad candidate, why won't he unite forces to stop this being forced on us. We are doomed to fail if we cannot unite behind one person. The liberals seem to win at every turn. Thank you to the people in the media, you will give yourselves 4 more years of Obama. If Newt is forced out, I hope he fights on and fights the establishment. I will be right there. No Romney. No way.


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We are going to lose with Romney. Obama will cream him. My liberal neighbors are telling me that too. People wake up. I hope Palin will get to Florida. People don't buy into the media lies. Newt can win the general.
1 posted on 01/29/2012 12:10:38 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

The Democrats and the GOP elites have basically the same agenda - bigger government and cushy jobs and prestige with security. Win a few, lose a few, makes no difference as long as the apple cart isn’t upset.


2 posted on 01/29/2012 12:14:45 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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Why does the GOP establishment want to run a moderate liberal? ( We will lose to Obama )

Follow the money and the answers you seek may be plane as day.

3 posted on 01/29/2012 12:16:10 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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My best guess is that the GOP doesn’t want to win.

They believe that the years 2012 to 2016 may be horrific years and they don’t want to be holding the empty government bag.

This could very well be the first election where the it’s a game of the Democrats and Republicans fighting to avoid getting elected. :)


4 posted on 01/29/2012 12:16:36 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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RINOBOYS
5 posted on 01/29/2012 12:18:44 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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It’s the SPENDING stupid. Neither party wants to cut their gravy train.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 12:19:17 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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The GOP and the democrat party are the good cop-bad cop of state run collectivism.

They are PETRIFIED of political outsiders like Palin.


7 posted on 01/29/2012 12:20:20 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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When I argued my my cousin who is 20 years my junior, he had this to say about how concerned he is about who gets nominated and who wins and losses: they are all the same guy, so why do you care.

When he told me that, I thought he was crazy. Now I see he is very wise.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 12:20:23 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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Many people sadly like a more artificial man...just look at many churches filled with mealy mouthed leaders that just make people feel good but are not really able to help people come to the Kingdom within. That is the way Romney is...a good talker but not really strong and the real thing. I still believe we will win, regardless of Florida. But Newt is going to have to be stronger in the debates! “Be angry and sin not!” This is what is needed and what he has but he must employ it more in the debates. It is a non resentful anger over a phoney and weak attack against him. Btw, www.fhu.com and the Be Still exercise that is FREE will help us all become that strong! We all need to be!
9 posted on 01/29/2012 12:21:57 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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Myth Romney isn't a moderate liberal. He's an extreme liberal, in the same category of O'Bambi the Marxist. Teddy Roosevelt was a somewhat moderate liberal, albeit with some good very ideas about keeping America American.

No Romney. No way.

Go Newt Go! Rebellion is at hand! 2013 will be a Happy Newt Year for FReepers and for our country when President Gingrich and his Tea Party Patriots eject the current Marxist regime.

10 posted on 01/29/2012 12:22:38 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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Why does the GOP establishment want to run a moderate liberal?

Because maybe then, pMSNBC might not hate us any more??? < /sarc??>

11 posted on 01/29/2012 12:22:44 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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The GOP loved the McCain catastrophe so much they want to do it all over again.


12 posted on 01/29/2012 12:23:19 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters (Stuck with a local RINO? Regardless of who you vote for, donate $$$ to a different district.)
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The GOP establishment people want to stay in Washington getting rich and they know they can make lots of money in Obama’s second term. They don’t care about the country, they want to be in the wealthy upper class so they want Obama to win second term. If a principled conservative were elected president it would interfere with their crony capitalism insider connections and they would lose their
position in the ruling class.


13 posted on 01/29/2012 12:24:36 PM PST by tommix2
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Agreed. Romney will get clobbered by Obama.

Old guard Republicans are big government crony capitalists. They don’t want to end the gravy train.

Why haven’t McConnell and Boehner challenged Obama more? Crony capitalists.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 12:24:40 PM PST by whitedog57
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Here's my theory -- and the one I hear from Republican elites. Romney, whether he's elected or not, won't alienate independents -- the so-called Reagan Republicans. The upshot being Republican Senate and House candidates will stand a much better chance of election and may control both houses.

I think the GOP leaders think they can block any legislative coups Obama has in mind if he's re-elected. What they're overlooking is his plan to govern dictatorially through bureaucratic "czars," liberal judge appointments and executive orders. We desperately need Newt!

15 posted on 01/29/2012 12:24:44 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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Of course Romney will lose to Obama, that is the whole point. You think these GOP elitist jerks voted for McCain in 2008, they probably voted for Obama, nothing would surprise me anymore. GOP Elitists are Democrats just better dressed. What sickens me is that so many Republicans are believing the lies that Romney is a “Moderate” please, what is a moderate..they are liberal. Romney is NOT a liberal, he is a progressive, he stated so himself, yet the Republican party is still voting for him. Not only that but hearing people like Nikki Haley and Pam Bondi going on and on about how Romneycare is SO great, how can they say that, how can they say with a straight face that Romneycare is any different then Obamacare..for God’s sake its the same thing!!!


16 posted on 01/29/2012 12:25:29 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BinaryBoy

My thought is that the Republican elite think Romney could win because he will come off as being more palatable for the Independents, that there would be a harsher contrast between Obama and Newt, and the Independents will still be unable to think for themselves given a stark choice and media bias.


17 posted on 01/29/2012 12:26:13 PM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Christie at the beach
If Romney wins the nomination, my guess is that we'll have Trump jumping in as the third party, or Steve Winn, or someone similar, and I'll be voting for them. If they don't, I'll vote for Obama.

After four years of McCain's idiots at the top of party offices across the nation, we've seen TEA party candidates cut off at the knees time and time again. The only way to chop off Romney's lackeys from doing the same thing is for Romney to lose big in the general.

If it's even moderately close, we'll have more ‘big tent’ (AKA BIG GOVERNMENT) liberals pushing us to be even more liberal within the party.

Am I afraid of another four years of Obama? Not anywhere near as much as I'm afraid of eight years of Romney.

18 posted on 01/29/2012 12:26:33 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Christie at the beach; Jim Robinson; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; ...

The GOP establishment thinks that Romney has natural appeal to the independent voters who decide elections. They mistakenly believe that independent and swing voters are affluent social “moderates” who live in lavish colonial houses in safe, leafy suburbs of major mega-cities and drive Volvos and SUV’s with all the amenities. I think that’s because so many establihsment types have little personal contact with ordinary people. They live inside the beltway most of the time and in vacation homes during their down time. As a result, they socialize with the titans of international finance when they’re not working and it shapes their view of the American electorate. Their view is not an accurate one.


19 posted on 01/29/2012 12:26:43 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Christie at the beach
We are going to lose with Romney. Obama will cream him. My liberal neighbors are telling me that too. People wake up. I hope Palin will get to Florida. People don't buy into the media lies. Newt can win the general.

The GOP is now PROUD 'pink mafia' and they could care less if Romney can win, they do NOT want their way of life changed. We the people are trailer park trash to them.

20 posted on 01/29/2012 12:26:48 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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