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Seven Reasons Why Newt Still Wins in Florida despite Poor Debate Performance
Various ^ | 29 January 2012 | Vigilanteman(Informed Vanity)

Posted on 01/29/2012 2:15:12 PM PST by Vigilanteman

Despite a bad debate performance in Tampa, Newt Gingrich will still make it over the finish line on Tuesday with about 3% to spare. The primaries will formally continue until at least Super Tuesday, but Gingrich needs to start thinking about the end game of defeating Obama in the fall sooner rather than later.

I don't mean to brag, but I predicted his easy win in South Carolina well before it happened. The only thing I was wrong about was the margin of his win: I predicted 8%. The actual result was 13%.

There are (at least) seven reasons why Newt will win in Florida. I'm giving you those reasons not as a Newt supporter-- I'm actually supporting Rick Santorum-- but as an informed observer.

Reason #1: The Newtzilla Factor. If you don't know what this is, go to the URL in the source. Jonah Goldberg explained it in National Review better than I could possibly hope to do. But if you are too lazy to read his article, the key is that nobody can beat the Newtzilla among conservatives except the Newtzilla himself. He didn't even come close with one sub-par debate performance.

Reason #2: Mitt Romney. He always underperforms his polling. You can argue over the reasons. Some claim it is religion. Others the likability factor. Still others, jealousy of his self-made success. You can pick out evidence to support any of these reasons or more. But it isn't important unless you are working for the Romney campaign and trying to massage his image. The string of elections he's run dating back to Massachussetts 18 years ago only supports this contention. So don't argue with the facts.

Reason #3: Money. Newt does not lack for it. While it might be a different story by the general election, he is not hurting for it now. In fact, when you count all of the Newt friendly PAC money, they have enough to run anti-Romney advertising in Pennsylvania right now. Our primary is not until the end of April. Romney and pro-Romney PAC's have not even started to run advertising here. While this doesn't necessary mean the Romney machine is running out of money, it does mean Newt's backers are not even close to that point.

Reason #4: Florida is still a southern state. Don't get me wrong. It is still one of the big three bellweather states in every presidential election in the last 120 years (Pennsylvania and Ohio being the other two)-- win all three and you cruise to election; win any two of the three and you still limp across the finish line. Florida also has a 20 year longer record of picking GOP nominees than does South Carolina. All of the state is, of course, not Newt's backyard as was South Carolina. But a significant portion of it is. And that is an advantage which Mitt Romney simply cannot claim outside of a few tony enclaves in Dade and Palm Beach counties.

Reason #5: Early voting. At one time, this favored Romney. Then Newtzilla swept through South Carolina. Those planning to vote early swung over to Gingrich in even greater margins than those planning to vote on election day. Most of them have already voted. They can't change their votes now even after Newt's poor debate performance.

Reason #6: National polls. Newt is still leading handily in the national polls, in the 6-8 point range. Florida pretty much mirrors national polls, although I am cutting his margin in half based on the poor Tampa debate performance and more recent polling data.

Reason #7: Immigration. I can't tell what Newt was thinking when he attacked Romney as being too harsh on immigration in Tampa. Mitt earns a pathetic C+ from NumbersUSA and equally mediocre marks from other groups pushing to limit Open Borders policies. Perhaps Newt was making a calculation that he would get more of a bump in a state with a large immigrant population to more than compensate from the backlash he would get from native voters in a state suffering from high unemployment. Perhaps, he was even right. Perhaps not. Such a remark from Rick Perry was the beginning of the end for his campaign just a few short months ago. But the field was crowded with Romney alternatives at that time. Not so now. So I think the damage to Newt will be minimal for the Florida primary, but it could come back to haunt him in the rust belt states. There is no way he is going to outbid Obama for a soft immigration policy in the general election, so he would be wise to apologise for the remarks as soon as possible after he wraps up the win in Florida. This will hurt him temporarily just as the admission on lying about having witnesses ready to counter what his ex-wife said in ABC's gotcha interview. But it won't keep him from getting the nomination.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: fl2012; mitt; newt; santorum; vanity
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1 posted on 01/29/2012 2:15:15 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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I wish I had the money to fly to Florida and vote for Newt a few times to help him out. I think it’s too late to request some absentee ballots.


2 posted on 01/29/2012 2:17:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Your President's DOJ is taking the Fifth Amendment! How do you feel about that?)
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Let’s be honest here. Newts performance wasn’t bad, the moderator was. I think Newt showed class and restraint.

As Newt said today, “how do you debate someone who repeating lies and constantly attacking you with them”. Instead of debating the issueS Romney prefers trying to destroy Gingrich.

If there was a bad performance it was Blitzer and his co-hort Romney who failed.


3 posted on 01/29/2012 2:21:28 PM PST by mardi59
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To: Vigilanteman

From your keyboard to God’s ears!


4 posted on 01/29/2012 2:22:46 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Vigilanteman

Follow the social online communities.

Gingrich has the most mentions on Twitter in the past week.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 2:24:08 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (#withNewt)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Obama/Romney 2012 - When ONE socialist elitist just won't do!
6 posted on 01/29/2012 2:24:36 PM PST by bayliving (3 if by Washington D.C.)
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To: Vigilanteman

As much as I want this to be the case, I’m not all that confident Newt will pull it out in FL.

If I lived there, I would definitely vote for him, however, and encourage all Florida FReepers to do so!

We have to do whatever we can to make sure we’re not stuck with Barack O’Romney this time around!


7 posted on 01/29/2012 2:25:21 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Vigilanteman

Excellent post.

Newt will win, because he is like the father of the
“American Spring”.

yes siree bob, the A.S. is happening right now.

Be patient.
All good things come in their own time.. look at the
scenes again: Iowa, NH, SC, and now FL.. there are many
many more miles to go!

the American people are tired of phoney like 0
who promised Change, but in reality nothing happened.

Newt is the man with Big Bold ideas,
you will many industries will wake up from their long
sleep: natural gas & oil industries, infrastructures,
sci & tech, the lists go on.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 2:26:30 PM PST by indpndtguy
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To: Vigilanteman

Very interesting analysis, informedvanityman. Thanks.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 2:33:13 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Yashcheritsiy
As much as I want this to be the case, I’m not all that confident Newt will pull it out in FL.

Many of the polls reflect your concerns. We still have a lot of work to do.

But I would say that even if the polls showed Newt ahead. We can't let up until the day after election day if we're going to win this.

10 posted on 01/29/2012 2:33:39 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: mardi59

As Newt said today, “how do you debate someone who repeating lies and constantly attacking you with them”.
.......
Newt’s going to need to learn how to do this for his debates with Obama next fall.


11 posted on 01/29/2012 2:34:35 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Vigilanteman
Good post and just read "Newtzilla"...

I fell out of my chair laughing when I read:

For whatever reason, Romney seems like a creature put on Earth to blend in with the humans and report back what he finds. He clearly likes earthlings, and they in turn find him pleasant enough, and surprisingly lifelike. Occasionally he finds the right words, but he rarely connects them to the right tone. This dearth of convincing passion in the front-runner makes the passionate base of the party want to look elsewhere — even to Newtzilla.

Jonah Goldberg, "Newtzilla"

12 posted on 01/29/2012 2:36:19 PM PST by vortigern
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To: Vigilanteman
A Note on Bogus Polling
13 posted on 01/29/2012 2:37:32 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (#withNewt)
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To: Vigilanteman

Thanks so much for this Post. We need all the encouragement we can get right now. Also, since 1980, FL has gone for the same candidate in their Primary that SC went for in theirs.

Check it out.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 2:38:36 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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Here’s some more encouraging news. A Cuban American radio talk-show host says the Cuban vote in FL is breaking dramatically for Gingrich:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2839420/posts


15 posted on 01/29/2012 2:43:59 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I do hope the author is correct.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 2:45:14 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He made a lot of sense, and I hope he’s right.


17 posted on 01/29/2012 2:45:59 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I tend to agree that Romney underperforms at the ballot box v. the polls. They called Newt up by 6 in SC and it ended up being 14.

The absentees will be a factor. The SC win for Newt was perfectly timed and he could have banked a ton of votes. The polls won’t reflect that.

I haven’t seen a recent poll with the undecideds. Even 20% undecided is signficant.

As much as he’d hate to lose the delegates, the MSM is overhyping a Romney blowout. If Romney squeaks it, the momentum ironically could likely shift to Newt.

Bottom line, Romney needs to win this big, and he’s playing to win big, going for the kill. It might be his undoing.


18 posted on 01/29/2012 2:46:21 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I hope you are right. This election cycle has been unlike any other. All bets are off and I think Newt will pull it out in Florida. Go tea partiers.


19 posted on 01/29/2012 2:46:36 PM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: mardi59

I am for Gingrich. but I think Gingrich must learn to and be prepared to debate the liar - in the general election he will debate the biggest liar of all time - obozo! (Unless obozo refuses to debate him, then he can follow him around and rebuttal without time restraints.)


20 posted on 01/29/2012 2:46:41 PM PST by chrisnj
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