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The End of Health Insurance Companies
New York Times ^ | January 30, 2012 | EZEKIEL J. EMANUEL

Posted on 01/31/2012 5:04:43 PM PST by NoExpectations

Here’s a bold prediction for the new year. By 2020, the American health insurance industry will be extinct. Insurance companies will be replaced by accountable care organizations — groups of doctors, hospitals and other health care providers who come together to provide the full range of medical care for patients. Already, most insurance companies barely function as insurers. Most non-elderly Americans — or 60 percent of Americans with employer-provided health insurance — work for companies that are self-insured. In these cases it is the employer, not the insurance company, that assumes most of the risk of paying for the medical care of employees and their families. All that insurance companies do is process billing claims.

For individuals and small businesses, health insurance companies usually do provide insurance; they take a premium and assume financial responsibility for paying the bills. But the amount of risk sharing that is accomplished is limited because the insurers charge premiums that vary, depending on the health of an individual or a group of employees, and use their data and market power to identify healthy people to cover and unhealthy people to exclude from coverage. (The health care law’s total ban on exclusions for pre-existing conditions will begin in 2014.)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: healthcare; healthinsurance; insurancecompanies
The mask has been lifted and they just don't care anymore. The beginning of the end of our health system.
1 posted on 01/31/2012 5:04:43 PM PST by NoExpectations
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To: Nachum

Ping.


2 posted on 01/31/2012 5:07:29 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NoExpectations

That particular system should have been killed a long time ago. It’s just that it’s replacement ain’t so great.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 5:10:04 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: NoExpectations

Also, starting in 2014 the sick will be allowed to die instead of expensive procedures. In other words, if you have a stroke, the one shot that can save your life, cannot be given. Even today, if you do not follow your doctors exact instructions, and you are on medicare, the government can cut the payments to the doctor. This means that the doctor can drop you and you will play hell finding another one. This will happen even if you disagree with your doctor.


4 posted on 01/31/2012 5:12:45 PM PST by RC2
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To: NoExpectations

I see tons of help wanted ads in the health care profession around here. I want no part of them.


5 posted on 01/31/2012 5:15:38 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: NoExpectations

Ezekiel Emanuel, the ‘Deadly Doctor,’ has sister with cerebral palsy; euthanasia, and Sarah Palin

http://www.examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/ezekiel-emanuel-the-deadly-doctor-has-sister-with-cerebral-palsy-euthanasia-and-sarah-palin


6 posted on 01/31/2012 5:24:25 PM PST by Mr. Peabody
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To: NoExpectations
I have been in the Healthcare Industry for nearly 4 decades. I have become convinced the health care insurers have been promised they will be the administrators of Obamacare. They will then be Federal employees, unionized and have it made in the shade for life. Not so much those of us who have been toiling in Healthcare support (lab, nurses in offices, etc.) jobs for our entire careers. Yes, the best Healthcare system in the world is being dismantled day by day. So sad for those of us who have poured our hearts into giving the best care possible. So, which country will we move to, where we can excel to our highest possible selves, when the oppressive jackboot of Government finally takes it's last kick at our throats?
7 posted on 01/31/2012 5:27:17 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Army Air Corps

Funny, the Canadians said the same thing before they brought them back.


8 posted on 01/31/2012 5:29:53 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: NoExpectations
By 2020, the American health insurance industry will be extinct.

So where's the huge surprise?

That was the long range plan all along. The radical left coup was a long time in planning.

Obamas claim that we could all keep our old health care providers of choice was an outright lie, pure Bullshit.

Q.E.D.

Once the totalitarians redefine "insurance" to include massive welfare shifts, definitions become meaningless. Of course actual insurance providers can't possibly compete with the welfare component, which multiplies liabilities at least twofold.

9 posted on 01/31/2012 5:41:53 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: originalbuckeye

“I have been in the Healthcare Industry for nearly 4 decades. I have become convinced the health care insurers have been promised they will be the administrators of Obamacare. “

The plan all along. And leveraged at lobby-will.

Arbeitsziehungslager-Care


10 posted on 01/31/2012 5:50:16 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: NoExpectations

Rahm’s brother..one of the chief architects. Rat bat-turd.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 6:37:45 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: NoExpectations
Not gonna happen.

As in most Euro nations, the health insurances (for the most part) are actually for a nationalized system since this “mandates” people to buy insurance. National health care = forced purchase of a product. What you really have is a sort of collusion (albeit completely legal in this case) between the government and industry. Another development is that the legal recourse gets limited in such a government run system. The government through it's panels, committees, obscure bureaucrats with no name and legally top covered processes becomes the shield off which any legal recourse becomes futile. The government sets “standards of care,” and as long as those are followed there is no recourse even if a new procedure or medication is available, even if the standard goes against the moral compass of the patient or you have an exception where a doctor would recommend a deviation in the standard of care (example: Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system). Doctors in a national health care system don't practice health care, they essentially become no more than a flow chart administering care that is already pre determined based on age, sex, the type and the advance of a certain ailment. Even competition goes away and as in Germany (TK, AOK etc) all your insurances are simply different in name only but essentially the same. The government sets the standards and the differences between insurance providers are minuscule. You no longer have as much of the competitive pressures as in the past. Insurances in this sort of system actually do quite well.

12 posted on 01/31/2012 6:38:35 PM PST by Red6
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To: NoExpectations

doubleplusgood


13 posted on 01/31/2012 7:00:10 PM PST by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: NoExpectations
I'm surprised this f*ing Nazi is still alive. I'd have thought some patriot would have done the right thing by now. Oh well...
14 posted on 01/31/2012 7:35:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NoExpectations; Grampa Dave; tubebender; budwiesest; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Ezekiel done saw da wheel!!!

Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones... Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones...

15 posted on 01/31/2012 8:07:38 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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Wait! I forgot the final phrase... Now here is the word of the Lord!!!


16 posted on 01/31/2012 8:14:51 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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