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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, he did drink wine, but it was not like the wine they drink today.

Plus he drank it with a meal, not to get sloshed.

I guess I have too much respect to ever consider posting an image of my God with a cigarette in His mouth.

It just reeks of what the left would do to marginalize Him so that they will feel less sinful.


28 posted on 01/31/2012 8:11:53 PM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: OneVike

Nobody has shown that modern Jews do not have the same potency of traditional wine that existed in the days of the 2nd temple. Even if the concord grape is a modern innovation (Mogen David is actually pretty good stuff, if seeming to want peanut butter along with it). Baptist-style parsing over “new wine” and “grape juice” is colossally unconvincing to me.


30 posted on 01/31/2012 8:16:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: OneVike

Being a divine soul in union with a mortal-style body, it also appeared logical to me that Jesus would have a choice about how intoxicated/tipsy/drunk/etc. he would actually get from a given quantity of alcohol. We can see a pale shadow of this sort of power in the way that some Zen monks manage to melt off a number of frozen robes during their ordeals (and this isn’t even Christian).


31 posted on 01/31/2012 8:20:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: OneVike
“Yes, he did drink wine, but it was not like the wine they drink today.”

Act 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

The wine was no different than today, it was quite capable of getting someone “drunken”.

Christ expected moderation in all things.

1Ti 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

If a religious, but still carnal mind, can't grasp this, than everything else will be askew in its reasoning.

Christ was “Pro 4:27 Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.”.

Socialism is entrenched in both right and left politics.

True conservatism is of Christ, but, not as we know it today. Conservatism was on a personal level, in other words, moderation.

The liberal aspect of Christ was generosity with ones own blessings from God, and neither were a endorsement of a form of government.

Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.

A Christian's concern must always be the foundation....thy neighbor....taking care of the widow, orphan, stranger, but not a form of government.

When selfishness permeates the citizenry, there will be those that rise up to take care of these ones, under pretense, all the while, bringing those not mindful of the poor into a political/spiritual slavery.

Political polarization is counted upon to create confusion while the author of confusion, Satan, assembles his final opposition to the return of Christ....to no avail.

48 posted on 02/01/2012 1:23:01 AM PST by Puckster
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