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Marx, Jesus, or Obama, Who Are You Going To Believe
Townhall.com ^ | February 4, 2012 | Floyd and Mary Beth Brown

Posted on 02/04/2012 4:15:55 AM PST by Kaslin

President Obama has hit a new low. By promoting his reasoning for hiking taxes on the rich at the National Prayer Breakfast, he diminished the seriousness of his proposals and manipulated Jesus' teachings for his own political purposes.

Listening to Obama talk about taxation almost as a form of worship was beyond the bounds as he said, "For me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus's teaching that for unto whom much is given, much shall be required." He was quoting and distorting the Gospel of Luke and the Parable of the Faithful Servant. And, as Christians, we are greatly grieved by what Obama has done.

Obama is quoting a small portion of a lengthy answer given by Christ in response to a question by St. Peter. Here is a more complete version of Christ's dialogue from the New International Version:

"Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. I tell you the truth; he will put him in charge of all his possessions. But suppose the servant says to himself, 'My master is taking a long time in coming,' and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."

Christ isn't talking here about money, government, or taxes as Obama alleges. Jesus is talking about following His will, as He is the Master and we as His followers are the servants. Presumably Obama would know this, as he says he is a professing Christian.

America under Obama's leadership has been the opposite of the good and faithful servant. America is now a post-Christian society that is living out in practice the contrasting phrase, "'My master is taking a long time in coming,' and he then begins to... eat and drink and get drunk."

America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare. It is subsidizing all kinds of perverse lifestyles and practices with the public purse. America is sacrificing millions of innocent children for the convenience of the mothers, all in the name of the invented "right of choice."

Obama goes on, "I know that far too many neighbors in our country have been hurt and treated unfairly over the last few years, and I believe in God's command to love thy neighbor as thyself. I know a version of that golden rule is found in every major religion and every set of beliefs." And we too believe in the golden rule. And we wish it animated not the largess of Government but the actions of individuals.

The Bible we read also speaks out against covetousness and theft. And the promotion of division and class warfare promoted by this administration clearly promotes the citizenry to desire the wealth owned by others.

We believe that the Bible's teachings are clearly understandable and are accessible to all that will take the time to read it. There is much to be learned by diligent study of the Word of God; we pray that Obama will take more care when he quotes scripture in the future.

There are many passages throughout the Bible that mandate the poor and widowed should receive care, and we believe private charity is much better than a faceless government bureaucracy at delivering the care and individual attention required when people are in need. We cannot find anywhere in our Bible a call for high taxes and the confiscation of private property. Instead, we find those passages in the Communist Manifesto. Maybe Obama is confused.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: blackliberation; communism; liberationtheology; obama

1 posted on 02/04/2012 4:16:03 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“unto whom much was earned over sweat, risks, and hard work....not much should be required”


2 posted on 02/04/2012 4:21:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

Satan liked to quote scripture out of context, too.

Psalm 91: 11-12

11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 4:27:26 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can be it. Being good? Now that's something special!)
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To: Kaslin

Isn’t there a commandment about this? Something about carrying the Lord’s name for the purposes of evil.


4 posted on 02/04/2012 4:30:29 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: pepsionice

I just remind myself that the Book tells us that the World cannot understand the thins of the Spirit. If I ever heard anybody like Obama quote Scripture without distortion I would have to doubt Biblical truth. I do not doubt the Bible. and I do not believe Barak Hussein Obama II is a born from above John #3 type believer.He can claim he is a Christian -but the tree is known by its fruit—and Obama so reflects th eone who said to Eve “thou shalt not surly die!”seem to recollect he was fair at twisting scripture too.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 4:33:11 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Kaslin
As I posted earlier today about Rome's decline...

One needs to deeply consider why Jesus overturned the tables at the temple and why he said he did so...

Jesus would have never stood there at a PRAYER breakfast with a money-changer or thief.

6 posted on 02/04/2012 4:39:02 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Kaslin
There is something jarring about this pretentious fraud quoting scripture about loving his neighbor as himself, when all of his african family lives in poverty or in taxpayer-supported public housing

He could probably build his brother George a better hut just for the cost of one pair of moochelle’s designer sneakers

He could have built a whole village for the costs of moochelle’s vacation to Spain or Africa or Hawaii

7 posted on 02/04/2012 4:40:29 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: pepsionice

“For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, he or she should still eat well and live well. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command that they take an EBT card, Section 8 housing, Medicaid, and free daycare. But ye, working taxpayers, must weary in well doing because higher taxes and more intrusive regulations are needed to achieve equality.”

II Thessalonians 3:10ff Obama version


8 posted on 02/04/2012 4:49:06 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Kaslin

Marx and Obama are pretty much the same, so there’s really only a single alternative.


9 posted on 02/04/2012 4:50:00 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: beaversmom

Beware of False Prophets


10 posted on 02/04/2012 4:51:17 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: EBH

No, he wouldn’t. He would have chased him out like he chased the money changers out


11 posted on 02/04/2012 4:52:34 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2842339/posts
HOW EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT KILLED ANCIENT ROME


12 posted on 02/04/2012 4:58:42 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: StonyBurk

One thing I am certain of...Obama is no Christian. His “pastor” was a hater...he was raised Muslim...and educated by secular marxists.

He’s no Christian. He’s a pretender.


13 posted on 02/04/2012 5:00:50 AM PST by kjo
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To: EBH

Consider that the cruel taxations imposed by Rome caused the journey of the pregnant Mary and Joseph to distant Bethlehem where Jesus was born in a manger. Jesus was born to save sinners and not to support Government policies.


14 posted on 02/04/2012 5:03:20 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Kaslin

____________________________________________

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

15 posted on 02/04/2012 5:06:37 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Kaslin
The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

16 posted on 02/04/2012 5:07:40 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: silverleaf
He could probably build his brother George a better hut just for the cost of one pair of moochelle’s designer sneakers

from 2008:

Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya


George Hussein Onyango Obama,
Senator Barack Obama's long lost
brother was tracked down living in
a hut on the outskirts of Nairobi

Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed

Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate's half-brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be more different than that of the Democratic contender.

"No-one knows who I am", he told the magazine, before claiming: "I live here on less than a dollar a month."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

17 posted on 02/04/2012 5:11:51 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Kaslin

If a Republican president spoke about a scriptural reference you can expect the long knives of the left would be waving in defense about so-called ‘separation of church/state issues’.


18 posted on 02/04/2012 5:12:24 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: silverleaf
He could probably build his brother George a better hut just for the cost of one pair of moochelle’s designer sneakers

"First Lady Michelle Obama steps out in Lanvin sneakers and they’re only $540!"

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/role-model-michelle-wears-540-sneakers

19 posted on 02/04/2012 5:12:52 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Kaslin

As a Christian, I am not offended by Obama using the words of Jesus to make political points———I’m surprised it took him so long to do it.....

Here’s a man who rarely goes to church, spend twenty years listening to black liberation theology using the word of God to make political points?

Color me surprised....not

At least he isn’t carrying around the Clinton extra large Bible and waving it at reporters


20 posted on 02/04/2012 5:14:58 AM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: Kaslin
A muslim posing as a Christian funny! And Christians believing him even funnier
21 posted on 02/04/2012 5:17:17 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Kaslin
From The American Thinker
May 28, 2008

Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation': "...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."--Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" [i.e. 'reverend Wright's thing] and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html

22 posted on 02/04/2012 5:20:51 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ronnie raygun
A muslim posing as a Christian, funny!

From AsiaTimesOnline
Feb 26, 2008

"Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

23 posted on 02/04/2012 5:22:33 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: EBH
I intended to post that excessive government was doing the same thing to the United States it did to Rome, but , that is actually the case.

Abortion on demand is what is killing the United States. By it the Democrat Party killed their voting base and therefore must import the replacements.With the imports, one gets their moral, ethical, and religious beliefs.,p>The Democrats also replaced God with academia> Now God is cursed and legalized murder and homosexuality are praised and honored.

Goi , as He has stated in His Word is a jealouse God and will not share His glory. As more and more citizens particularly the political leaders tell him to take a hike,He willdo as they request. But, He will leave a present for those for those who want no part of him.To Wit: A reprobate mind, where evil is all they think about and do.We are not quite at that point as of yet, but one can see it from where we are now.

We are now at the point where individuals such as Tim Tebow and others such as him are condemed and ridiculed and others such as the late, and unmourned by me,Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank are praised and honored.

24 posted on 02/04/2012 5:29:55 AM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

Anyone looking in the Bible for quotes about Jesus telling people to feed the poor and have compassion will find plenty of them. Neither the Left nor the Right has any corner market on Jesus quotes, but frankly, the Left is probably closer to his teachings than the Right is.


25 posted on 02/04/2012 6:47:25 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kaslin

What if we evaluated President Obama as Candidate Obama?

Would he be the best choice to lead his party and this country?

Well, let’s see, he doesn’t have a record of creating jobs.

Of course, he cheered the latest jobs report saying unemployment rate fell to 8.3% - the lowest of his Presidency.

But he won’t tell you over a million Americans fell out of the labor market, and the percent of people in the workforce is now at the lowest point in decades.

The biggest decline on record came under Obama.

He won’t tell you around 13 million Americans are officially out of work.

And, almost 2 million fewer people are employed since the President signed his signature economic stimulus law, and declared 2010 to be the “summer of recovery.”

When it comes to gaffes, well the President has made a few of them.

Today in Virginia he said the economy is “growing stronger” and the “recovery is speeding up”!

Speeding up? Is he joking?

Last year’s economic growth was a paltry 1.7%. That’s almost half the rate of the previous year.

Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke just yesterday warned about continued weakness in the economy, and said the outlook for growth is “uncertain” at best.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/02/03/obamas-jobless-claims#ixzz1lQRt9l6m


26 posted on 02/04/2012 7:15:33 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Kaslin

One of the best articles I’ve seen on the subject. Great comments from Freepers, too.


27 posted on 02/04/2012 9:13:16 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: beaversmom

Many verses :

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Peter 2:1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you...3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD

Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits

Jer 14:14The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.


28 posted on 02/04/2012 9:55:02 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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