Posted on 02/05/2012 8:16:49 AM PST by Libloather
Woman Tasered in Front of Daughter After Cutting McDonalds Drive-Thru Line
By Olivia Katrandjian | ABC News Blogs – 17 hrs ago
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Employees at the McDonalds in Hope Mills, N.C., refused to serve Evangeline Lucca and told her to go to the back of the line. Lucca, 37, refused to move, and blocked the drive-thru for 20 minutes before police arrived on the scene, authorities said.
When deputies arrived, Lucca was "defiant," "would not get off McDonalds property," and was "threatening the deputies," according to Debbie Tanna, a public information officer for the Cumberland County Sherriff's Office.
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"Two or three officers entered the car with her and started trying to forcibly drag her out of the car, and that's when you could hear the clicking sound of the Taser one time," Rich told the Fay Observer. "They pulled on her a couple of times, and then they Tased her again, and when they Tased her the second time, she just flopped out of the car like a fish."
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In this case they knew what they needed to do to get her to move on AND to see she was called to accountability with the law. They didn’t. Maybe corporate stupid rule said they couldn’t.
That’s an expensive dollar burger.
Then the US Supreme Court should understand that the police are dealing with the peoblem and if they have an issue the quickest way to resolve it is to go inside and order. Law before burgers.
If the people in line do not know what the problem is then why look for a plate number, or wait for the problem to leave the scene only to repeat later. You deal with the problem while it’s happening. Even Supreme Court employees should understand this. Go inside.
You really think they would charge her after the fact?
I would think that rule would mean don’t go out and deal with the difficult customer. I don’t know that however. Alternately they could close the pick up window and take money at the order window. Yes, it would be difficult for them, but it would serve their customers. (Do this having called the cops of course). My thought is that if they serve her and call the cops she will be long gone and the cops will have to go to her house or pull her over somewhere simply to accuse her of cutting in line and to tell her not to do it again. I doubt if this is a big negative to someone who is willing to sit there for such a long time and to still be so adamant when the cops show up there. She would have already gotten the reward she wanted which was not the food itself, but being first in line and bullying and getting her way. It still “worked” from her point of view. Classical conditioning. Punishment after the fact is less effective than is removal of reward. The punishment of talking to the cops later on is so far removed from the behavior at that point that it isn’t very powerful to someone so “off”. To a normal person, maybe yes, this would be a deterrent. She seems far from normal.
So, you think it should have happened like this: lady cuts in line, McDonalds says "Don't do that again!" but serves her anyway. Lady leaves because she was served and McDonalds is supposed to call the cops and say a lady took cuts in the drive-thru line, here is her license plate number. I wouldn't think the police would spend 2 seconds trying to find this lady.
In theory, you're right. But the woman would just deny everything. Without a cop as a witness, it just becomes a he said, she said kind of thing.
And of course the woman's daughter would back her up.
If McDonalds had done as you suggested, I could easily see the woman getting off. Then would come an expensive lawsuit against McDonalds.
Agree. The cops are not going to now start pulling people over who have cut in line. Absent the refusal to comply and absent the traffic situation (maybe) that was being created in the moment, her offense would not be different than any other line-cutter.
What does she do? Bypass the order box, driving directly to the pick up window, where she places and demands her order there?
Agree. The cops are not going to now start pulling people over who have cut in line. Absent the refusal to comply and absent the traffic situation (maybe) that was being created in the moment, her offense would not be different than any other line-cutter.
Here is a video of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm_ge1ISOHg
Funny how at the end the police officer says put the cameras down. What law says you cannot tape police?
What? Are you nuts? We must regulate and drastically reduce the number of Mickey D's locations, limit the number if McNuggets to two per purchase, and only one purchase per month, with a 15 day "cooling off" period. Additionally we should outlaw assault pistol grip hot dogs and assault hamburgers that allow relish and ketchup to be easily attached, and come down hard on straw purchases.
Yeah, and no more hamburger "shows" in those food courts. We can get this under control if we all will just anonymously tip on those McD's that try to skirt the law.
Seriously, this is freaking outrageous. How can there not be a video of this?
Terrible phraseology.
It should've been ""...she just flopped out of the car like a filet-o-fish."
No matter; think tasers should be used only, for life threatening situations. This woman, incredibly stupid (and for that; feel sorry for her daughter). That said; the taser scenario, to me; is sickening.
And when the cop tells you to turn off the video, tell him to go scratch his ass, it's a free country.
what options does that leave LEO with a combative person on their hands?
Since we don't have a picture, we don't know if this was someone 5'0" 120 lbs, or one that was 6'+ and over 300.
Myself, think a good knot on the noggin from a nightstick would have done the job nicely, but people don't like that approach either.
“...if they felt their own authority in the eyes of their child was being undermined?”
She accomplished that herself when she took someone elses turn in the line.
I'm reminded of how I handled an arrogant and snotty nosed long haired line cutter with an attitude at an amusement park back in the early eighties. He and two of his little chickadee babes thought they were going to cut in on me and my family while waiting in an hour+ long line to ride the park roller coaster ride.
I first said excuse me son but line cutting isn't allowed and pointed to a sign just ahead saying as such and would he please go back to the end of the line like all of the rest of us did. He just ignored me. The next time I tapped him on his shoulder politel like and in a more authoritative and firm voice repeated my request, now becoming a demand. No park officers to be seen anywhere wouldn't you know.
Apparently my tapping him on his shoulder set him off. He spun and slapped my hand away and said to never lay a finger on him again. Oooops, nuff said. I instinctly reacted by cold cocking on his jaw and he instantly folded like a sack of dropped potatoes. His two teenie bopper girlfriends started shrieking and grab their brave BF and dragged him out of the line. One even apologized for him.
To my surprise I got a very warn round of applause with several congratulatory slaps on the back adding that the little punk got what he deserved. Of course today I would have been hauled away in manacles and charged with a crime. Back then men were expected to act like men and not wimpy hen pecked girly-men like we have today. Was I proud of what I did? No. But was I ashamed? Heck NO!
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