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Tribe Demands $500M From Beer Makers
http://www.ketv.com/news/30418786/detail.html#ixzz1lwrNtGCw ^

Posted on 02/10/2012 6:07:31 PM PST by chessplayer

LINCOLN, Neb. -- An American Indian tribe says it will sue some of the world's largest beer makers for knowingly contributing to alcohol-related problems on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. The Oglala Sioux Tribe of South Dakota announced Thursday it will demand $500 million from five international beer manufacturers for the cost of health care, social services and child rehabilitation caused by chronic alcoholism on the reservation. “The Oglala Sioux Tribe seeks compensation for all of the damages the Lakota people have suffered as a result of illegal alcohol sales,” said attorney Tom White, of White and Jorgensen Law Offices in Omaha.

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To: chessplayer

As I sip a Blue Moon, “Uh, yeah! Me too! I’m so drinking this because somebody sold it to me!”


21 posted on 02/10/2012 6:49:06 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: chessplayer
Everyone just took the picture of the man who sued McDonalds for making him fat, transplanted an Indian face, and surrounded him with stacks of empty beer cans in their minds. "I can't stop drinkin' gimme a check...BURPP"

I'm an ignorant Anglo, but if I was a member of a tribe known for being warriors, I would have an iota of pride.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 6:49:43 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Krankor

There’s an odd thing about this legal episode....they pick only beer makers, not Jack Daniels or any maker of whiskey or rum. They also only picked five major brewers. I hate to suggest it....but this almost looks scripted.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 7:04:27 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: chessplayer

I think General Custer’s descendants might consider a suit of their own.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 7:12:53 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: taterjay
Can’t they look back at the ancestors and see that the firewater is dangerous.

You'd think that. There are Eskimo settlements in Alaska where they voted to go dry because of the alcohol problems, and they are strict about keeping alcohol out of those settlements.

And while I know some of the reservations in the Dakotas are horrible places that reminded me of a third world country, the natives in Alaska have got it worse with their winters. The suicide rate is bad enough without alcohol in the equation during the winter. They didn't need any lawsuits or anything, they voted to do it, and they did it. They know they have a genetic problem with alcohol, they know they have a serious depression problem during the winters, and they took the initiative on their own.
25 posted on 02/10/2012 7:16:36 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: chessplayer

Unless there’s been some conspiracy going on for decades where beer men are holding Indians down and pouring beer down their throats against their will, I think there’s no real case here.

All the alcohol I have ever had, I’ve bought and paid for, voluntarily.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 7:16:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Baynative

If the Indians sue beer companies for alcoholism, it’s only fair we can sue them for gambling addictions and the financial problems this has caused.


27 posted on 02/10/2012 7:18:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: pepsionice
There’s an odd thing about this legal episode....they pick only beer makers, not Jack Daniels or any maker of whiskey or rum. They also only picked five major brewers. I hate to suggest it....but this almost looks scripted.

Maybe they can't afford the better stuff and are just sucking down cheap beer and malt liquor?
28 posted on 02/10/2012 7:19:02 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: pepsionice

Well, I guess the argument is, there was a very small number of off reservation residents living near the only liquor store in town. But the beer makers flooded this store with beer in amounts that the local inhabitants couldn’t come close to consuming. Hence, the real target were the Indians on the reservation where buying and drinking alcohol was illegal. I don’t know enough about the intricacies of the law to understand if this is actionable.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 7:20:03 PM PST by Krankor (It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
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To: chessplayer

The Pine Ridge Reservation is dry and no alcohol is allowed to be sold there. Native Americans travel to White Clay Nebraska to buy mostly beer. I find it hard to have much of a case against the beer manufacturers as they are not bootlegging their products on the reservation and those wishing to drink have to make a 20 mile trip to get their beer.


30 posted on 02/10/2012 7:30:22 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Krankor

“I don’t know enough about the intricacies of the law to understand if this is actionable.”

Economics calls it “Supply & Demand”.


31 posted on 02/10/2012 7:36:42 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: chessplayer

May I coin a term: “Reverse Natural Selection”? Any indian with enough genes to get off the reservation, does so.

I hope they’re studying the phenomenon.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 7:41:44 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Secret Agent Man
"...it’s only fair we can sue them for gambling addictions and the financial problems this has caused."


Not to mention zoning violations. It seems they tend to get considerations and variances that are not available to the general public when it comes to land use and environmental considerations.

33 posted on 02/10/2012 7:42:01 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: af_vet_rr
They don't keep it out, just attempt to control it some. We live 2 miles from an Indian Village; the Indians got it bad. Most are hard livin, life long alcoholics. I've watched them go for 6 months no booze, get a taste; off the go until they get flown on out. Most of them are pretty decent people; just can't handle the booze like us Whites can. If ya ever lived around them, watched them burn up in cabins, freeze to death in snowbanks, just see half the young kids (all FAS) dead before age 25 from booze & related problems; you'd figure out they can't deal with it on their own.

NOw they all got their income tax checks, every penny going for booze too. I have a couple friends that I have to go out and take all their booze & money from them, then give it back later after they sober up after drinking a gallon of vodka a day for a week. THey all thank me later, but I usually have to knock them down when they try stopping me from leaving with their booze. It's sad but ya know, having lived around Indians for many years, I learned they have all kinds of good things going on in their villages; things us Whites have lost. So I don't look down on them at all, good bunch actually; except with handling booze.

Bootlegging is a time honored tradition in every village I've ever been in. You'd be surprised to see who the bootleggers are too; often not the people that you would ever expect.

34 posted on 02/10/2012 7:52:50 PM PST by Eska
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To: Secret Agent Man

If the Indians sue beer companies for alcoholism, it’s only fair we can sue them for gambling addictions and the financial problems this has caused.

and they gave us tobacco so let’s sue them for that.


35 posted on 02/10/2012 7:54:09 PM PST by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: chessplayer

As always, the Plaintiffs will get coupons, and the Lawyers will get Millions in cash.


36 posted on 02/10/2012 8:01:57 PM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: chessplayer

the whole concept of “Indian Nations” is asinine. If you are a citizen of South Dakota, then that’s your state!!! Get a job, get off indian welfare, and make something of yourself. If inv ividuals cannot resist demon rum, that is their oown fault. To sue the manufaturer of a product (legal) because you abuse it is nonsense. Don’t sue Ford because you drove your Thunderbird into a tree. We have become such a nanny state and have lost all self respect. I don’t want to pay a penny for your lack of self control.


37 posted on 02/10/2012 8:11:27 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: chessplayer

All Indians ARE Alcoholics.

I can say this because I am part Seminole.

If you KNOW you can’t genetically handle it, then do not drink it.

It is not the fault of the beer makers, it’s called personal responsibility....LEARN SOME


38 posted on 02/10/2012 8:18:55 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: chessplayer

The road between White Clay Nebraska and Pine Ridge South Dakota is one mile long. That one mile road was considered the deadliest highway in the US for a time.
The feds stepped in and widened the road and put up lights for better visibility.
On weekends the ambulances out of pine ridge would always be running to Rapid City


39 posted on 02/10/2012 9:13:46 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: chessplayer

I have relatives in SD and lived there briefly myself...

Did you know it’s illegal to pick up empty beer cans along the side of the road in SD? They’re considered Indian artifacts.

What do you call a white man surrounded by 5 Indians in SD? Bartender.


40 posted on 02/10/2012 9:19:01 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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