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Feds shut down Amish farm for selling fresh milk
www.washingtontimes.com ^ | 02-13-2012 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 02/13/2012 11:25:53 AM PST by Red Badger

The FDA has won its two-year fight to shut down an Amish farmer who was selling fresh, raw milk to eager consumers in the Washington region, after a judge this month banned Daniel Allgyer from selling his milk across state lines, and he told his customers he'll shut his farm down altogether.

The decision has enraged Mr. Allgyer's supporters, some of whom have been buying from him for six years and who say the government is interfering with their parental rights to feed their children. But the Food and Drug Administration, which launched a full investigation complete with a 5 a.m. surprise inspection and a straw-purchase sting operation against Mr. Allgyer's Rainbow Acres Farm, near Lancaster, said unpasteurized milk is unsafe and said it was exercising its due authority to stop its sale from one state to another.

Adding to Mr. Allgyer's troubles, Judge Lawrence F. Stengel said if he is found to violate the law again he will have to pay the FDA's costs for investigating and prosecuting him.

His customers are wary of talking publicly, fearing the FDA will come after them.

"I can't believe in 2012 the federal government is raiding Amish farmers at gunpoint all over a basic human right to eat natural food," said one, who asked not to be named but who got weekly shipments of eggs, milk, honey and butter from Rainbow Acres. "In Maryland, they force taxpayers to pay for abortions, but God forbid we want the same milk our grandparents drank."

The FDA, though, said the judge made the right call in halting Mr. Allgyer's cross-border sales.

"Intrastate sale of raw milk is allowed in Pennsylvania, and Mr. Allgyer had previously received a warning letter advising him that interstate sale of raw milk for human consumption is illegal," said Siobhan DeLancey...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: agenda21; agriculture; amish; amishdairy; amishfarm; farm; freshmilk; govtabuse; milk; sourcetitlenoturl; tyranny
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1 posted on 02/13/2012 11:26:02 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

I see. We can’t secure the border but we can send armed troops to stop an Amish farmer from selling fresh milk.

Right.


2 posted on 02/13/2012 11:29:32 AM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Red Badger

Milk War, Gun War, Drug War, Internet War, Religion Rights War, Sugar War, Medical War, Gas/Oil War, Coal War, Pipeline War.............

Please add the name of your favorite war here................


3 posted on 02/13/2012 11:30:03 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Red Badger

First they came for the Amish......now they are coming for the Catholics.


4 posted on 02/13/2012 11:30:33 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Red Badger

Absolute insanity. Get the government out of our lives.


5 posted on 02/13/2012 11:32:02 AM PST by First A Patriot (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God)
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To: Red Badger
Buying milk? Not a personal choice. You cannot spend your money on this -- the government says so.
Abortion? Birth control? Not a personal choice. You must spend money for these things -- the government says so.

Such is the tyranny under which we now live.

6 posted on 02/13/2012 11:32:21 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Personal liberty war......


7 posted on 02/13/2012 11:33:30 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Red Badger
Hey G-Man... are you happy about your boss forcing you to enforce laws like this? What will you tell your children? What will your neighbors tell your children? What will you say when you face GOD? You will you know... HE believes in you even if you do not believe in HIM!

LLS

8 posted on 02/13/2012 11:37:42 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Red Badger

I never thought we would have Prohibition for . . . milk!


9 posted on 02/13/2012 11:38:20 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Red Badger

Govt cries over spilt milk.
Obummer the Milquetoast.


10 posted on 02/13/2012 11:39:22 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Obummeris is milquetoast. = who knew??)
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To: Red Badger; bamahead

This is the Tyranny of Statists, Libertarian Ping


11 posted on 02/13/2012 11:39:31 AM PST by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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To: Red Badger

Not one mention of any illness caused by this milk.

I abhor the government wielding power just because it can.

Raw milk can be problematic, but it’s being sold across this nation. Has there been major problems? Not generally. If done properly, it’s okay.

You’ve got some dumb-ass judge and some pencil pushing power hungry government lackeys, trying to rule the peons here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=raw+milk&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images


12 posted on 02/13/2012 11:39:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: jonrick46

Promise the government $3.00 per bottle, and watch how fast this “danger to the public” evaporates.


13 posted on 02/13/2012 11:41:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
First they came for the Amish......now they are coming for the Catholics.

Wrong, first they came for the smokers and private businesses/clubs that allowed smoking. People did protest about private business and property rights but everyone fell for the line about the health issue forsaking freedom. By the way, I am smoker and ask me if I care.

14 posted on 02/13/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by this is my country
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To: Red Badger

Feds shut down motherhood for illegal breastfeeding.

My mother was raised on raw milk from her cow Jenny and others. She`s 93.
My great uncle used to milk our nanny goat. He lived to be 98.
Raw milk is legal in Vermont.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 11:47:28 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Obummer is udder idiot.. = who knew??)
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To: Red Badger

Shut down the Amish farms and the Amish yutes will be roaming the city streets looking for elderly white people to rob and beat up and flash mobbing convenience stores to loot them! This is crazy!


16 posted on 02/13/2012 11:48:36 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Red Badger

Gov’t should say out of this.

That being said anyone drinking unpasteurized milk is a fool.
35 people in 4 states got sick last week from milk from a farm in PA.

Unpasteurized milk you get the germs for free.I value my kidney’s I guess.


17 posted on 02/13/2012 11:52:24 AM PST by trailhkr1
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To: Red Badger

we got swat teams raiding peoples homes for small personal amounts of pot.

we got swat teams raiding peoples homes for making their own liquor.

we got swat teams raiding peoples homes for possessing tax free cigarettes.

we got swat teams raiding peoples homes just because they can.

and now, they are raiding peoples homes for fresh, unpasteurized milk.

the war on drugs, the war on alcohol, the war on tobacco, and now the war on milk.

this is why I left the conservative movement, and became a small l libertarian. The constitution, as written, is the only way out of this madness.


18 posted on 02/13/2012 11:52:41 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: crosshairs

well a few will sneak a cow into the deep woods and set a clandestine dealer network,maybe at one hundred a gallon


19 posted on 02/13/2012 11:54:46 AM PST by coalman (survived carter ,disco and clinton,just holding on till 2012)
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To: Red Badger

And we call ourselves a free people.


20 posted on 02/13/2012 11:58:30 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Red Badger

Agenda 21 plan.


21 posted on 02/13/2012 11:59:32 AM PST by opentalk
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To: DoughtyOne
Raw milk can be problematic,...

You're not lying. It is addictive. I'm serious.

22 posted on 02/13/2012 12:02:18 PM PST by houeto (Mitt Romney - A Whiter Shade of FAIL)
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To: coalman

well I hate drinking milk but love ice cream. Still if the lactose tolerant wanna drink the stuff the goobermint should butt out.


23 posted on 02/13/2012 12:04:04 PM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: houeto

Isn’t it? Once you have the real thing, the stuff they try to pass off for milk at the grocery tastes like water.


24 posted on 02/13/2012 12:04:54 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Red Badger
Income tax records allow the government to go after those selling illegally. It never was illegal to own or use alcohol under prohibition but it was illegal to sell UNTAXED alcohol.
25 posted on 02/13/2012 12:08:46 PM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Red Badger

The federal is acting foolishly on behalf of large corporations. Every time I can I purchase from local farmers. These guys sicken me.


26 posted on 02/13/2012 12:11:03 PM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Red Badger

Freedom is dead.


27 posted on 02/13/2012 12:11:34 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Red Badger

Government is the religion of the fascists.


28 posted on 02/13/2012 12:12:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of fascists and their parasites.)
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To: trailhkr1
That being said anyone drinking unpasteurized milk is a fool.

That would pretty much be every human being that ever lived prior to the year 1800.

29 posted on 02/13/2012 12:15:31 PM PST by houeto (Mitt Romney - A Whiter Shade of FAIL)
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To: houeto
That being said anyone drinking unpasteurized milk is a fool. That would pretty much be every human being that ever lived prior to the year 1800.

And we drank out of lead cups at one time too. There was a reason why out great great great great grandfathers came up with pasteurization.

30 posted on 02/13/2012 12:18:20 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: crosshairs

Amish farmers => independent from government
“Amish” yutes => very dependent on government

The former are considered enemies of said government, whilst the latter are friends.


31 posted on 02/13/2012 12:18:43 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cowman

the eighteenth amendment prohibited the manufacture, sale, and transportation of all intoxicating liquors as well as the importation or exportation of them.


32 posted on 02/13/2012 12:23:48 PM PST by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: Red Badger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2845542/posts

“Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday. These extremists, sometimes known as “sovereign citizens,” believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.” And the most epic line ever written: “The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.”

The Amish MUST assimilate and be absorbed.

33 posted on 02/13/2012 12:23:50 PM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Chgogal

Amish are the new Kulaks.


34 posted on 02/13/2012 12:25:02 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: First A Patriot

Indeed.

And in particular - stay the heck out of what I choose to eat or to feed my family. I do NOT need or want the FDA deciding what is safe or not safe for me to consume, since they are A-Ok with all manner of substances that I consider to be totally and completely NOT safe or beneficial.

May God give us strength.
Tatt


35 posted on 02/13/2012 12:26:32 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: houeto

LOLOLOL!!!

I do love it, and I was NEVER a milk drinker before trying it. I don’t know what that white stuff they sell in the stores is, but it isn’t milk : o

Dear Lord, grant us strength.
Tatt


36 posted on 02/13/2012 12:32:06 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Red Badger

Let me see... the government is okay with releasing terrorists confined at GITMO but wants to lock up Amish farmers for selling natural milk to people who want to buy it?

Yep. That sounds right. I am SOOOO glad we have the government protecting us.


37 posted on 02/13/2012 12:39:15 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: morphing libertarian
Milk War, Gun War, Drug War, Internet War, Religion Rights War, Sugar War, Medical War, Gas/Oil War, Coal War, Pipeline War.............

Please add the name of your favorite war here................


Cracka War
38 posted on 02/13/2012 12:52:44 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: trailhkr1
No, anyone that says there is no God is a fool .. but I'll let you have your statement.

I looked that statement up and found a part of what may have been the problem is something called "Campylobacter", a bacterial infection that may result in diarhea, stomach pain and fever.

The article you cited added the word " Campylobacter" only because it is first cousin to salmonella.

I'm generally too laxzy (I think I'll let that typo stand ... I think it is more descriptive ..) to bullet point what I read, but if one searches the word, you may come to the conclusion that Campylobacter might be something to be concerned about.

More than one article states the problem may be prevented by washing your hands.

Campylobacter ... seems no more harmful that the flu that may kill you, a broken bone, not/or improperly set could cripple you and/or not brushing your teeth might cause your teeth to fall out.

39 posted on 02/13/2012 1:04:55 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: DoughtyOne

More people get sick and/or die from FDA-approved prescription drugs than from raw milk. This is NOT a health issue, it is a government control issue, like everything these days.


40 posted on 02/13/2012 1:04:55 PM PST by gramho12
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To: jdub

“the eighteenth amendment prohibited the manufacture, sale, and transportation of all intoxicating liquors as well as the importation or exportation of them.”

Which was repealed by the 21st Amendment.


41 posted on 02/13/2012 1:09:15 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: FerociousRabbit

government isn’t about protecting “us”,

it’s about protecting the ruling class.

And those pesky folks that attempt to be “independent” are going to be a real thorn in their side some day.


42 posted on 02/13/2012 1:14:00 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: trailhkr1
great great great great grandfathers came up with pasteurization.

Pasteurization is mainly scalding milk, which was used early on (1700's) to extend it's use. The process was commercialized in the late 1800's to extend shelf life, and yes the scalding kills bacteria as well. It was used more for commercial interests than safety issues, but fresh milk from a healthy cow and clean workers is not harmful.

43 posted on 02/13/2012 1:14:44 PM PST by gramho12
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To: DonaldC; Red Badger

I’ll bet that in Cuba you can drink any damn milk you choose.


44 posted on 02/13/2012 1:15:05 PM PST by RetroSexual
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To: knarf

Accepting their premise is foolish.

Never answer a fool in his folly, or you will be like him yourself.

The issue isn’t about safety, not in the least.


45 posted on 02/13/2012 1:15:19 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Chgogal

That’s disgusting. Thanks for the post/link.


46 posted on 02/13/2012 1:16:42 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: gramho12
but fresh milk from a healthy cow and clean workers is not harmful.

CONN. CASES JOIN HUNDREDS HOSPITALIZED "Less than 1 percent of the dairy products consumed in the United States are unpasteurized, yet more than 50% of dairy-associated outbreaks are linked to unpasteurized products," said Gould, who was not involved in the new investigation.

From 1993 to 2006, she added in an e-mail, outbreaks related to raw milk and cheese and yogurt made from it have been tied to 1571 illnesses, 202 hospitalizations and two deaths.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/11/26/study-beware-e-coli-drinking-raw-milk/#ixzz1mIXAby4b

47 posted on 02/13/2012 1:17:21 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

I was raised on raw milk and butter, I’m 57.
But it was my aunt’s cow’s milk and butter, not bought.
Soon, the Feds will put a stop to that, even.

Obama Edict # 53958.197:

No person residing within the United States may consume raw milk or milk products from any source.


48 posted on 02/13/2012 1:17:31 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: RetroSexual

But there is no milk to choose..............


49 posted on 02/13/2012 1:18:27 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Hey G-Man... are you happy about your boss forcing you to enforce laws like this?"

Unfortunately, there are some that truly enjoy this kind of work.

50 posted on 02/13/2012 1:21:48 PM PST by moehoward
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