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Sal Khan: Building a better university
CNN ^ | 2/8/2012 | Scott Olster

Posted on 02/16/2012 6:22:59 PM PST by RoosterRedux

Student debt is nearing a record $1 trillion in the U.S. Jobless law school grads are suing their alma maters for false advertising. Needless to say, the cost of higher education -- not to mention the return on the investment -- has become a sore spot for many.

With an election on the horizon, the Obama Administration has not been deaf to the grumbling. The president addressed the topic in his State of the Union, and his administration has since launched a campaign to stem the rise in college tuition by tying a school's federal aid prospects to its affordability. Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, and Senator John Kerry were dispatched to university campuses earlier this week to tout the plan. In all the tut-tut over college affordability, there been some nostalgia for the time when some world-class, public universities -- The City University of New York and The University of California, for example -- didn't charge any tuition for many of its students.

Salman Khan's Khan Academy -- a free, nonprofit education site with more than 2,800 video lessons and financial backing from the likes of Google (GOOG) and the Gates Foundation -- has picked up this mantle, at least in spirit. Fortune caught up with Khan a few months ago while he was just about to speak at the Future of State Universities Conference in Dallas. Here is an edited transcript of the conversation.

Fortune: Judging from the counter on your site, it looks like Khan Academy is not too far away from delivering its 120-millionth lesson. What has surprised you the most about all those users?

(Excerpt) Read more at management.fortune.cnn.com ...


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Tut-tut...what about some more affirmative action, eh Mister Prezident? That helps a whole bunch, eh?

I want an African-American Socialism degree from Princeton...will that help me get a yob?

1 posted on 02/16/2012 6:23:01 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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And for those who doubt...Khan and MIT will soon offer a certification program to replace the olde diploma and degree!

Or so I hear!

2 posted on 02/16/2012 6:28:34 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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I’m a fan of Khan Academy. That was something I wanted to do when the internet first started, but I never had the wherewithal. I’m glad he did it.

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Here’s my modest proposal for education reform.

We have been discussing ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda and other idiocies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84

Proposal for the Free Republic High School Diploma.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316882/posts

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3 posted on 02/16/2012 6:39:50 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: RoosterRedux
VHS tape, correspondence school, satellite/VTC, nothing new here except the delivery via youtube.

Students watching videos will not supplant higher ed classrooms. For supplementary purposes or augmentation informative videos might be a good resource, but nothing will replace collaboration, student interaction, tutoring, and individual instruction.

There is no research that indicates the Khan video format (youtube) increases retention of content, either.

4 posted on 02/16/2012 6:40:28 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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Millions of lessons but where are the results? Well, at least it is free.


5 posted on 02/16/2012 6:43:34 PM PST by ari-freedom
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You, sir, are an idiot.

Some professors are geniuses at communicating their subject matter and some are dolts.

Video tape, VCR, Youtube...that is the medium for communication geniuses. The best excel and the worst die a painful death!

Condolences for your faves!

6 posted on 02/16/2012 6:46:35 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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“There is no research that indicates the Khan video format (youtube) increases retention of content, either. “

I’ve actually tried his k-12 math program (http://www.khanacademy.org/exercisedashboard) just to see what the fuss was all about. At least there is some interaction to this part of the academy but even this is not so great.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 6:48:26 PM PST by ari-freedom
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Here are the results...Los Altos.
8 posted on 02/16/2012 6:49:05 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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Retention of content?

Mathematics is not about retention of content.

It is about wrapping one's mind and spirit around concepts that are intimidating...and finding affection and enthusiasm for that subject.

9 posted on 02/16/2012 6:53:14 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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Take a look at the MITx program at mit.edu. That is phase two of a project that could restructure college education. MIT’s OpenCourseWare project was phase one. If your local college faculty and administrators aren’t familiar with the project, they are in for a shock.


10 posted on 02/16/2012 6:54:00 PM PST by iacovatx (If you must lie to recruit to your cause, you are fighting for the wrong side.)
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Thx for that. Have been watching MITx and have audited many MIT courses before Kahn came online.

There is a revolution brewing! And it is about time!

11 posted on 02/16/2012 6:56:39 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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“Mathematics is not about retention of content.”

I guess you’ve never heard of Saxon, Kumon and DISTAR? Mastering the multiplication tables? You’re not going to know what 8x7 is just by watching a video about multiplication or doing a couple of random problems before going on to the next topic.


12 posted on 02/16/2012 7:00:07 PM PST by ari-freedom
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I have been building a website that is stressing interactive learning. This is what I believe Khan Academy is missing. I do believe Khan is great. My website is here:

fourier-series.com

13 posted on 02/16/2012 7:06:19 PM PST by BRL
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Some professors are geniuses at communicating their subject matter and some are dolts.

Decades ago there were teachers who taught in one-room schoolhouses. Their students all managed to earn Regents diplomas or the equivalent.

The difference? The students were motivated.

It has never been demonstrated that teachers with a degree from a school of education provide a better education.

14 posted on 02/16/2012 7:07:33 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ari-freedom
Give me a break! Do you think that referring to tables and notes (and now calculators and computers) is not standard for those who dig into higher math? Did you never get beyond trig and its beauty.

Math is based on a foundation of prior discovery. That prior discovery need not be memorized (unless you are a stupid HS teacher who is still trying to earn his pension).

15 posted on 02/16/2012 7:13:22 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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Sorry not getting down on your level.


16 posted on 02/16/2012 7:14:40 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: BRL

I will check out your site tomorrow...Thanx for your hard work on this subject matter...and God Bless!


17 posted on 02/16/2012 7:15:54 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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Sorry for being insulting. It is late and I am tired.

Forgive me.

18 posted on 02/16/2012 7:17:53 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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I'll check it out, thanks for the link.

Derek Muller, physics educator and science video blogger researched this education format. His results call into question the effectiveness of these lessons.

He found that students have preconceptions prior to watching the video lesson; "....students believe they are learning but they do not engage with the media on a deep enough level to realize that what was is presented differs from their prior knowledge."

Interestingly, he gives credit to Khan for clear, concise explanations.

19 posted on 02/16/2012 7:22:44 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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Millions of lessons but where are the results? Well, at least it is free.

He was featured on a Stossel report on Fox Business, and it appears that the results are encouraging in a number of school districts that are using the videos.

The teachers who use them were very enthusiastic about the children's willingness to study.

Mark

20 posted on 02/16/2012 7:26:31 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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