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A Disturbing Case in New Mexico Guilty or not, this is too much
The Firearms Coalition ^ | 9 December, 2012 | Jeff Knox

Posted on 02/18/2012 7:18:17 AM PST by marktwain

A family of four – Rick Reese, his wife Terri, and their two sons, Ryin - 24 and Remington - 19 – was arrested in Las Cruces, New Mexico on August 30, 2011. They have been held in four separate county and federal detention facilities without bond ever since. Their alleged crime is that, over the course of several months, they sold between 15 and 30 guns to people they knew, or should have known were gun traffickers for Mexican drug gangs. The Reeses insist that they are innocent of any crime.

Shortly after they were arrested in Las Cruces, dozens of police vehicles, including four armored personnel carriers and two helicopters, full of armed officers and agents from numerous federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies swarmed over the Reese’s home and businesses. The entire firearm and ammunition inventory was taken from Rick Reese’s store as well as his entire personal collection of firearms and all cash and valuables from his home safe. Even the 30 to 40 empty gun safes that were on display at the store were seized. US Attorney Ken Gonzales indicated that he is going to seek asset forfeiture of the Reese’s home and 25 acre property (including the shooting range on the property which he leased to various law enforcement agencies), all of the cash and valuables seized, their vehicles, and a monetary judgment of at least $36,000 from whatever assets might be left.

In a prepared statement to the press US Attorney Gonzales stated: “This case serves to put firearms dealers on notice that they will be held accountable for any failure to comply with federal firearms laws.”

I have no real problem with that statement except that I strongly disagree with many federal firearms laws, but until we can get those changed, licensed dealers are obligated to comply with them. What’s more, dealers, particularly dealers in southern border states, have been well aware of heightened scrutiny and enforcement for the past several years. It is almost inconceivable that any dealer, particularly a successful and prosperous one like Rick Reese, would jeopardize their life and livelihood for the sake of a few ill-gotten dollars. What bothers me most though, is the heavy handed treatment of the Reese’s, the judges refusal to establish bond for them, and something else that US Attorney Gonzales said: “Those who sell firearms knowing that they will be illegally smuggled into Mexico to arm Mexican Cartels share responsibility for the violence that has been devastating Mexico.”

While the Reese family sits in their various jail cells accused of should have known, it should be pointed out that in Operation Fast & Furious, the ATF and DOJ, along with the US Attorney for Arizona, twisted dealers arms to get them to sell over 2000 guns to traffickers for Mexican drug gangs. They did this with every intention of allowing the un-monitored guns to reach the bad guys and only tracked them by the crime scenes where they quickly began to show up. The program was only stopped when two of those guns turned up at the scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s murder.

My question for US Attorney Gonzales is; when are those responsible for Fast & Furious going to be arrested and tried for their contributions to “the violence that has been devastating Mexico?”

Something else to consider when looking at the Reese case is that convicted straw purchasers are typically sentenced to less than one year in prison – if they are prosecuted at all. Prosecutors generally require that straw purchasers have records of purchasing high numbers of guns and that some of those guns can subsequently tied to violent crimes. Such standards make the aggressive treatment of the Reese family, all of whom have spotless records in their business and their personal lives, look even more excessive.

I don’t know the Reeses and really have no idea whether they knowingly broke the law. I do know that they had a reputation for being responsible citizens, and that they have insisted that they are innocent and will not plea bargain. I also know that they are facing well over $100,000 in just basic legal costs. If Rick and Terri and the boys are eventually exonerated, they will walk away with probably $200,000 in legal bills and damaged, depreciated inventory – if they can recover it. Courts are notoriously loath to return guns under any circumstances and even less inclined to return ammunition. Rick’s plans to close the shop at the end of the year and run for Sheriff are crushed. His son Ryin’s plans to open a new shop in Las Cruces with a lot of his father’s remaining inventory are also destroyed.

Regardless of the Reese’s guilt or innocence, this case raises serious questions about the equity of our legal system, the show-boat tactics of some federal law enforcement agencies, and the complexity of our nation’s gun laws. Crimes should be punished, but more importantly, justice should be served. That doesn’t seem to be happening in this case. I’m going to keep monitoring this one. Financial support for the Reeses can be sent to the following: REESE DEFENSE FUND ATTENTION: Patricia Arias FIRST SAVINGS BANK 520 South Gold Deming,NM 88030

Permission to reprint or post this article in its entirety is hereby granted provided this credit and link is included. Text is available at www.FirearmsCoalition.org. To receive The Firearms Coalition’s bi-monthly newsletter, The Knox Hard Corps Report, write to PO Box 1761, Buckeye, AZ 85326.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; guns; mexico; newmexico; nm; reese
Known, or should have known... It does not seem to apply to Eric Holder or President Obama. It seems to me that the prosecutor is angry that they will not plea bargain. He might actually have to go to trial, and is using every dirty trick that prosecutors are allowed by law to put on pressure to force a plea.
1 posted on 02/18/2012 7:18:29 AM PST by marktwain
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.
Their alleged crime is that, over the course of several months, they sold between 15 and 30 guns to people they knew, or should have known were gun traffickers for Mexican drug gangs.
Sounds likes they'd make a good Attorney General of the US.


2 posted on 02/18/2012 7:26:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: marktwain

So where is Holder being kept? What jail is Soetoro in?


3 posted on 02/18/2012 7:27:09 AM PST by immadashell
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To: marktwain
US Attorney Gonzales said: “Those who sell firearms knowing that they will be illegally smuggled into Mexico to arm Mexican Cartels share responsibility for the violence that has been devastating Mexico.”

Calling Eric "The Red" Holder, it's your turn before the Judge. And if you are nice and reveal who ordered you to "run guns" to Mexico we might reduce the sentence. Your boss, the one who resides at 1600 Penn. Ave. is responsible.

4 posted on 02/18/2012 7:30:11 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

So all four of them have been held for over a year with no bond. Does that translate into held without bail? Do they have access to attorneys, I wonder.


5 posted on 02/18/2012 7:30:51 AM PST by Truth29
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To: marktwain

“Rick’s plans to close the shop at the end of the year and run for Sheriff are crushed. His son Ryin’s plans to open a new shop in Las Cruces with a lot of his father’s remaining inventory are also destroyed.”

This could be the reason behind all of this.


6 posted on 02/18/2012 7:31:30 AM PST by SwatTeam
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To: marktwain

This is most disgusting and if they are guilty it is because they were set up. I know one of the supposed straw buyers and no one would have thought that she was going to sell the gun to a cartel. Her husband actually died because of the stress of this, he was also charged.

They also raided the home of the head of the TEA party and took all his guns and arrested his wife while he was in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment. They had nothing on him but it sure didn’t help the health matters.

We bought guns there and so did all the law enforcement in 3 counties for their personal weapons.

They can’t get this fast and furious stuff out in the open soon enough for me.


7 posted on 02/18/2012 7:32:26 AM PST by tiki
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To: immadashell

Don’t be silly, FRiend.

Laws are for the little people and mouthbreathers, like you and me. Laws don’t apply to the “Magic Negro” and Eric “Just Us” Holder. /sarc

Welcome to Soviet States of America.


8 posted on 02/18/2012 7:33:21 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: marktwain

“Rick’s plans to close the shop at the end of the year and run for Sheriff are crushed. “

At taxpayer expense, too! Win-Win!


9 posted on 02/18/2012 7:33:27 AM PST by DBrow
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To: SwatTeam

Ya think?


10 posted on 02/18/2012 7:33:37 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: marktwain

Unfortunately for the Reese’s, it’s not about justice. It’s about power and control. They have none. The rulers have it all.


11 posted on 02/18/2012 7:37:10 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SunkenCiv

Should have known is a pretty high standard. Until holder goes to jail these laws are a farce


12 posted on 02/18/2012 7:40:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

If they had not sold the guns to those “they should have known” were Mexican drug traffickers, they would have been charged with some sort of hate crime.


13 posted on 02/18/2012 7:43:34 AM PST by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: marktwain
"Rick’s plans to close the shop at the end of the year and run for Sheriff are crushed. "

I hope things turn out ok for this man, and if he DOES beat the charges, I can think of no better candidate to run for Sheriff. He might have a whole different view of his colleagues in Federal "law enforcement" than he might otherwise have had.

14 posted on 02/18/2012 7:45:24 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: marktwain

I am beginning to believe that the only justice we will see for Obama and Holder and all their minions will be at the Great White Throne, just before they are cast into the Lake of Fire for all eternity.


15 posted on 02/18/2012 8:01:02 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: thethirddegree

His two mistakes?

1. Warning his betters that he was going to be uppity and run for sheriff

2. Having assets worth seizing.


16 posted on 02/18/2012 8:08:22 AM PST by null and void (Day 1124 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: tiki; CedarDave; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...

New Mexico ping


17 posted on 02/18/2012 8:28:39 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't call us bigots! "Bigotry" is 98% of mormons in NV voting for Mitt Romney.)
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To: marktwain
Family in jail for Eric Holder's crime
18 posted on 02/18/2012 8:31:11 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain
..Shortly after they were arrested in Las Cruces, dozens of police vehicles, including four armored personnel carriers and two helicopters, full of armed officers and agents from numerous federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies swarmed over the Reese’s home and businesses. Those goddam jackbooted thugs were looking for another Waco. Were I on the jury, if there were one, I'd nullify it.
19 posted on 02/18/2012 8:33:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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Woman accused in Deming gun case seeks jail release
20 posted on 02/18/2012 8:36:35 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Truth29
"So all four of them have been held for over a year with no bond."

Incorrect statement.

21 posted on 02/18/2012 8:40:58 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: marktwain

check book is out and sending $$$. Will call my friend n Deming to find out the particulars if I can. My blood is boiling. Grab all of Holders stuff throw his as$%^^# in jail he is more guilty then these people. If he followed all laws and those purchasing passed all the criteria this is BS. OMG all those assets to raid a small home business and yet we don’t lift a finger to TRUELY STOP THE DRUG TRADE. OMG OMG this is just crazy.


22 posted on 02/18/2012 8:48:47 AM PST by Tubac414 (Just want to ride my Motorcycle)
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To: diogenes ghost

That’s taken from the article. If it is incorrect, provide the correct information.


23 posted on 02/18/2012 8:58:06 AM PST by Truth29
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24 posted on 02/18/2012 9:02:40 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

You left out united as in the U.S.S.A.
United Socialist States of America. I have joked about it for over 30 years and now I am watching one of the most historic events in the history of earth unfold before my eyes.

Only thing left to decide is if We The People will surrendor with our skirts hiked and flowers in our hair, hating one another more then we hate the masters who have chained us. Or if we can come together long enough to force some real hope & change.


25 posted on 02/18/2012 9:02:40 AM PST by winodog
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To: marktwain
US Attorney Gonzales said: “Those who sell firearms knowing that they will be illegally smuggled into Mexico to arm Mexican Cartels share responsibility for the violence that has been devastating Mexico.”

So why does Eric Holder still walk free?

26 posted on 02/18/2012 9:04:14 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: tiki

Many local federal LEO also were regular customers there also and say privately they have a hard time believing there was anything wrong with the business.

I have no idea of their guilt or innocence or what lead to this but I know everyone that knew them, and I mean everyone that I know that knew them says they were stand up people and would not do what they are accused of doing.


27 posted on 02/18/2012 9:14:42 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

Deming, NM is a small town, about halfway between the AZ and NM border. The federales used 3 armed personnel carriers to raid this man’s store. Talk about overkill.

I ask again, what will it take for all of us to reclaim our Constitutional Rights?


28 posted on 02/18/2012 9:26:45 AM PST by jayrunner
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To: Enterprise
I hope things turn out ok for this man, and if he DOES beat the charges, I can think of no better candidate to run for Sheriff. He might have a whole different view of his colleagues in Federal "law enforcement" than he might otherwise have had.

And if elected Sheriff, he'll outrank them within the boundaries of his country. Slight strategeric oopsie on their part.

29 posted on 02/18/2012 9:28:19 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Erps, within the boundaries of his “county”.


30 posted on 02/18/2012 9:29:15 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: jayrunner

I know exactly where Deming is, and remember the raid- what struck me is in the list of “suspicious things” listed in the newspaper were items like: have their own windmill for water, have generator for power, four freezers full of food- I was stunned- these are things that make you appear to be criminals?

I don’t know these people but do know many that do that swear they are good people.


31 posted on 02/18/2012 9:54:06 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: paul51
EXACTLY!!

POWER and CONTROL being the operative words here.

32 posted on 02/18/2012 10:02:33 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: Tammy8
I know exactly where Deming is, and remember the raid- what struck me is in the list of “suspicious things” listed in the newspaper were items like: have their own windmill for water, have generator for power, four freezers full of food- I was stunned- these are things that make you appear to be criminals?

Yes, to a socialist, there's nothing more outrageous than a desire not to depend on the collective.

33 posted on 02/18/2012 10:33:17 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

I guess the real questions are, “Did they do background checks on the people trying to purchases weapons, and did they comply with federal guidelines concerning those purchases?”

Anything else in the way of coulda, woulda, shoulda, is irrelevant.

These people should be provided a speedy trial. They are not terrorists. Any evidence aired in public would not jeopardize the security of our nation.

Their treatment is contemptible on the face of it.

Once again, the federal government does it’s damnedest to destroy the respect of the public, for only by doing so, can it accumulate ever more power to protect itself.

These people are stormtroopers, on the same level as some of the worst in history.


34 posted on 02/18/2012 11:19:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Truth29
Yup, yer right.

Being an ollllddd retired fart, I am still not used to being no longer in 2012 mode. Can't remember last time I had to write the date.

'Course, I can't remember a lot about yesterday.

35 posted on 02/18/2012 11:20:36 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: DoughtyOne

If the fact in the article are any where near as stated, it’s time to feed the hogs. There is a named individual responsible for this abuse of civil rights under color of authority. If we can no longer get justice in the courts or at the ballot box it may be time to consider other options.


36 posted on 02/18/2012 11:48:48 AM PST by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

I think your logic is sound, but in this day and age of Constitutional nullification, the very mention of truth is grounds for further study.

The feds say they seek to protect us from terrorists, and yet they become the deniers of the very rights they seek to keep terrorists from destroying.

This absurdity is undeniable, but don’t expect those with power to give a damn about that.

It’s the danger of herd mentality. We see on this forum. We see it in our elected leaders. We see it evidenced in federal law enforcement.

Who reviews the reviewers, when they can take whatever length of time they wish to bring people before the courts for adjudication?

I don’t pretend to know all the facts involved in this case, but there is a reason for that. This matter has not gotten the fair reasoned and expected review in public.

Whose fault is that? It certainly isn’t mine or yours.


37 posted on 02/18/2012 12:31:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Tammy8

They were definitely Preppers. He was very anti-government and I think that is what got him into trouble. They made him a target.


38 posted on 02/18/2012 2:26:00 PM PST by tiki
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To: immadashell

The Mexican Government should request Eric Holder be extradited to Mexico to stand trial for several hundred counts of felony murder.


39 posted on 02/18/2012 6:22:24 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain
My question for US Attorney Gonzales is; when are those responsible for Fast & Furious going to be arrested and tried for their contributions to “the violence that has been devastating Mexico?”

That is a dangerous question to ask, Mr. Knox. The ATF, DEA, ICE, FBI and DOJ were all involved in intentionally arming Mexican drug cartels and they don't seem to care much who knows it.

Let's call it what it is. State-sponsored terrorism.

On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.

What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?

Not to mention the just-revealed news that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.

Let's not leave out the FBI and DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do.

It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.

0bama, Holder and Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is state-sponsored terrorism. These Chicago-machine Marxist thugs are dragging our country down to the level of Tehran and Pyongyang.

These are some very dangerous people.

40 posted on 02/18/2012 7:29:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

I read through the first forty replies and came to the inescapable conclusion that we all know what needs to be done and we’re all waiting for someone else to do it. That, my FRiends is a textbook example of the results of terrorism. We are terrorized.


41 posted on 02/19/2012 3:38:59 AM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: oldfart

So what’s wrong with selling guns to Mexican druggies...the US Government did it and there seems to be no problem with that?


42 posted on 02/19/2012 4:27:14 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

I wholeheartedly agree! IF .gov can do it, we should be able to do it as well— actually, we could probably do it better than they. Private enterprise is always better.

What are you doing awake at this ridiculous hour? I had leg cramps and couldn’t sleep. Getting old is a bitch!


43 posted on 02/19/2012 4:45:18 AM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: null and void
You got that one right!

At one time I thought that the purpose of the war on drugs was to get drugs off the street. I no longer believe that. From what I have observed, I now believe that the purpose of the war on drugs is to get the sheep used to the heavy hand of law enforcement and conditioned to having their Fourth and Fifth Amendent Constitutional Rights violated in a wholesale matter. The asset seizures? That is just a tax the cartels pay on the 99% of product that is allowed to get to market. The drugs?They keep the sheep pacified until the slaughter date.

What other three issues than the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, and man made global warming would make the sheep so eager to give up their God given rights, pay higher taxes, and surrender one's freedom to travel from point a to point b without being molested be a Governmental security agent under the guise of "being made feel secure"?

44 posted on 02/19/2012 5:28:40 AM PST by sport
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To: winodog

“You left out united as in the U.S.S.A.”

Actually, no, I didn’t.

We are not united as a nation. We have red states and blue states.

In response to your question, the majority of people in the blue states (i.e.: CA and NY) will lift their skirts and cower in the corner waiting for their gubmint check to arrive every month. The majority of the people in the red states will fight tooth and nail to hold onto their liberties (which is why the jackasses in the next paragraph are working so diligently to ban private ownership of guns and private property).

The DNC, MSM, liberal asshats and political elites have completely balkanized this nation. I see no hope for its survival. Civil War II is waiting right around the corner.

Lord Almighty, it’s not going to be pretty.

That’s how I see it, and I’ve already got my bug-out bag packed and sitting by the door.


45 posted on 02/19/2012 6:27:24 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: marktwain
Worth reading this 2005 article on Reese and the fed's indictment Here.

Then make up your own mind.

46 posted on 02/19/2012 7:08:31 AM PST by Riflema
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To: Riflema
Read it, mumph. Bottom line is that the man sold a legal product to an adult who later did bad things with it. How in any rational system of justice does this ever become a crime?

Not to gloss over the whole "illegal objects" nonsense. Crimes of possession are very dangerous to civil cohesion. The ease with which a police officer can "flake" an innocent person with a big time felony should scare any thinking person.

47 posted on 02/19/2012 8:50:42 AM PST by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer)
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To: Riflema

That indictment reads like something straight out of a Franz Kafka book.


48 posted on 02/19/2012 3:47:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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