Posted on 02/27/2012 7:35:49 AM PST by neverdem
>> While Heller certainly was a victory, it was never the total and complete victory some of my pro-gun friends thought it was. Basically all the decision said was the government could not impose an absolute ban on firearms and as I guessed the gun control side was going to come back and say, “OK, this ruling means that we can still do anything except a total ban.” <<
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The Heller decision was properly written.
The court was correct to limit itself to just what had been addressed in the suit. the SCOTUS is an appelate court, and has no original jurisdiction. Even added dicta beyond that would have been treated disdainfully by the statist judges.
>> “When I was in high school, every boy had his loaded rifle in the rack of his truck to haul @ss out after school to catch as much daylight as possible.” <<
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I can hear Caroll O’Connor singing “Those were the days...” :o)
If you open the bolt with a loaded mag in the receiver, a cartridge will be pushed in.
Second amendment protections in the constitution we put in place so that the people could shoot agents of an oppressive government....not deer.
I’m from Chicago and if I told you I’d have to kill you.
Of additional interest: http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Articles/2012/02/29/FOID-2-29.aspx
If you can be deemed a felon do you ever get your rights back?
No, it won't.
Open bolt == "SAFE GUN"
If you CLOSE it as you say, and LOCK the bolt then you are back to "CHAMBERED" which is where we started. The OZ lady misunderstood "loaded" to be synonymous with "chambered" It is not.
Note the difference.
ROUND CHAMBERED = NOT SAFE
LOADED but NOT CHAMBERED = SAFE
You can close the bolt without chambering a cartridge in pretty much anything with an open breach. If not, pull the mag, cycle the bolt till clear, then close the action while clear, then load the mag. AGAIN, LOADED but NOT CHAMBERED and STILL SAFE!
On every BA gun I have, when you slide the bolt back, the spring in the mag pushes a cartridge upward.
...where it is HARMLESS until you slide the bolt forward and lock it.
Can you clear the chamber? Of course you can. Can you clear the magazine? Sure you can.
Can you now close the bolt and lock it? Great!
Now the gun is unloaded and safe. There is no cartridge in the chamber.
Now put the magazine back in! TADA! The gun is now LOADED, but there is NO CARTRIDGE IN THE CHAMBER.
S A F E
You can also generally do the same real easy with any BA rifle or shotgun with a loaded magazine by simply depressing the next cartridgewhen you slide the bolt forward so it it doesn't catch on the loader.
The point was that the lady upthread zotted someone for having a loaded magazine as being the same as a chambered round. It's not the same, and it's not safe to not know.
You just proved my point completely.
I just proved your pointlessness!
By confining defense to the "home", everywhere else is open to criminal exploitation, something I doubt the founders would have agreed with.
Suppose someone said you could only use your cell phone in your home? Would leftists agree? It's a communication tool- something people might want wherever it's needed. Guns are defensive tools. They too, are something people may want when it's needed.
Trouble with statists and utopians everywhere is they don't understand Free Will and the part it's played in America's exceptionalism. But they will, it's coming soon.
The pointlessness was opening the bolt in the first place. That was my point.
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