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Against intense local opposition, the Obama administration wants to demolish three dams on the Klamath River in Siskiyou County, California. Low-cost clean hydroelectricity as well as water for irrigation would be lost if the dams were removed. Removal of the dams would also cause chaos for ranchers, homeowners, and small business who live and work in the downstream of the dams.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 7:09:31 PM PST by Baynative
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It's not about the science.
It's not about the salmon.
2 posted on 02/29/2012 7:10:59 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: TEXOKIE; ELVISNIXON.com; SunkenCiv; E. Pluribus Unum; CharlyFord; cripplecreek; OneLoyalAmerican; ..
"Removal of the dams would also cause chaos for ranchers, homeowners, and small business who live and work in the downstream of the dams. Despite this, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar has been trying to force dam removal for the supposed benefit of some salmon and steelhead spawning habitat.
Now, Prof. Paul R. Houser of George Mason University alleges that the administration’s plan is all based on junk science. In his role as science advisor to the Bureau of Reclamation, he was closely involved in the project. He has filed a formal complaint (PDF) alleging “intentional falsification” and “intentional . . . compromise of scientific and scholarly integrity.” "


3 posted on 02/29/2012 7:12:21 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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Must be a conservative area.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 7:12:46 PM PST by KansasGirl
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Those dams were releasing too much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 7:13:40 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Part of agenda 21

—Hydro power dam destruction: collapse of energy infrastructure to return to a primitive existence


7 posted on 02/29/2012 7:17:13 PM PST by opentalk
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If they approve this plan, all those folks who will be affected need to do a little civil disobedience. It would be pretty hard to blow up a dam with, say, a thousand protesters “occupying” it.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 7:23:53 PM PST by Boogieman
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During WWII, the Abwehr infiltrated two teams into the US with the intent of harassing and sabotaging American infrastructure. Had they been able to successfully infiltrate 1,000 teams, I dare say they could not have created half as much destruction, havoc and chaos as the Obama administration.
13 posted on 02/29/2012 7:34:17 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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What about Hoover Dam? I hear that keeps Mexicans from swimming upstream and spawning too.


14 posted on 02/29/2012 7:35:11 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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this comment has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of any obama administration plan.

i note the dams. as someone who spent many formative years in oregon and washington, watching the salmon ladders (on dams), and driving to hoover dam, and grand coulee dam, and tonight googling the 150+ dams and reservoirs on the incomplete list of dams and reservoirs in california . . . does any water west of the continental divide actually flow to, and in the amount, dictated by natural geography?

i know it's not just west of the divide. the southeastern u.s. wouldn't be the same without the tva.

but nothing riparian west of the divide appears to be natural.

15 posted on 02/29/2012 7:42:57 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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This is well traveled territory... Free Republic and Klamath Falls.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 7:44:03 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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Wayback to memory lane
18 posted on 02/29/2012 7:49:18 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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The progressives would love to blow up Hetch Hetchy too.


21 posted on 02/29/2012 7:51:42 PM PST by GSWarrior
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First they turned off the irrigation, now want to blow up dams. What is it Democrats have against Klamath?


28 posted on 02/29/2012 8:13:59 PM PST by tbw2
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Don’t forget the ultimate goal of the Sierra Club is to return everything west of the Rockies back to nature and eliminate all humans west of the Rockies!


29 posted on 02/29/2012 8:19:57 PM PST by dalereed
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sfl


31 posted on 02/29/2012 8:22:59 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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The Klamath Bucket Brigade: http://www.klamathbucketbrigade.org/


34 posted on 02/29/2012 8:44:55 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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GREAT!!!! once we get rid of those stupid dams, we’ll have plenty of space to install the new windmills.EUREKA, we’ve solved our energy problems and saved a fish at the same time.....in my next 5 years as president, we may devlop algae farms to replenish our oil supply....please, no applause...


36 posted on 02/29/2012 9:09:05 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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Loss of fresh water for communities and farming. Loss of hydro power (renewable generation that actually works) and flood control downstream. How stupid can you be? Redundant question when Obama and his minions are involved. Their intent is to damage the country.
38 posted on 02/29/2012 9:42:50 PM PST by Myrddin
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We blow the dams, fish population goes crazy, and the Chinese scoop em up at the ocean.


39 posted on 02/29/2012 10:24:45 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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This is not Jeff Head’s territory. It is mine. This is southwest of the Klamath Falls area. The area below the dams is not heavily farmed. This is the mid-Klamath. In fact, some of the very Klamath Project farmers who were affected by the water turn off at the head gates are now in favor of dam removal. They were quite willing to stab my people in the back to trade for gains in their water and electricity price needs.

The people of the mid Klamath include the retirees and communities who live around the reservoirs behind the dams. They include resort owners and river folk who will be flooded out by uncontrolable flooding. They include fishing guides, miners, loggers and some small family farms that have been handed down since the 1850s.

Dam removal will damage infrastructure (roads, bridges,) kill fish and possibly all living things in the river for several years. (And it will walk away from any liability, leaving locals holding the bag.) It will mess up the City of Yreka’s water supply. It will leave raw stinking mudflats for the people around the reservoirs that will be a seedbed for noxious weeds. It will destroy one of the finest white water rafting areas in the US. It will remove the settling effects of the reservoirs on nutrients and organics (algae) and create a hot nutrient rich soup that will be plugged with algae. It will remove the power of the reservoirs to act as settling ponds for the putrid water that comes in from Oregon. It will reduce water flows in the summer to a much lower level. It will turn a county that is a net exporter of energy into one that is a net consumer of energy produced elsewhere.

It will also drag two agriclutural areas - the Scott and Shasta Valleys into the mess. (These are areas with small family heritage farms.) Plans are to use restrictions on their water and land use to mitigate the impact of the upper Klamath on salmon.

To top it off, the whole thing is based on manipulated science to intentionaly support dam removal: Fired federal adviser files whistle-blower complaint over Klamath dam removal http://www.redding.com/news/2012/feb/28/klamath-river-dams-fired-federal-adviser-files/ Here are his allegations: http://users.sisqtel.net/armstrng/allegation.pdf and his bio http://prhouser.com/houser.html

The Board of Sups hired a consultant and found several irregularities in the science http://www.co.siskiyou.ca.us/BOS/DOCS/KBRA/Comments_of_SiskiyouCountyandCities_to_KlamathFacilitiesRemoval_EIR_EIS%2011_21_11.pdf

There are also scientists at ESIPRI who are reviewing the integrity of the science: http://www.esipri.org/


41 posted on 02/29/2012 10:38:21 PM PST by marsh2
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