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Is President Obama Among The Greatest Black Men Ever?
NEWSONE ^ | February 29, 2012 | Dr, Boyce Watkins

Posted on 03/02/2012 11:51:10 AM PST by nickcarraway

For many centuries, the epitome of African American achievement has been to become the first black president. We once talked about it like it was the impossible dream, or the ultimate sign that we have arrived. Well, Barack Obama didn’t just talk about the dream, he went out and turned it into a reality.

So, here we are, with the keys to the Oval Office. When the Obamas moved in physically, many of “us” moved into the White House psychologically. The Obama’s marriage was our own, and our sense of protection of the president and his family was the kind that tends to be reserved for our closest relatives.

With that said, the question becomes, “How do we properly contextualize President Obama in black American history?”

Well, one thing we know is that it would be quite dangerous to describe President Obama as the most accomplished black man in the history of the United States. To make such a claim would be to say that being popular among white Americans might be an important precondition for African Americans to be “successful.” The gifts of true freedom, respect and equality are not granted willingly in a historically racist society. Typically, equality means competition, and it’s hard to compete with someone for valuable resources and expect them to like you at the same time.

So, in many ways, individuals such as the late Malcolm X and even Louis Farrakhan have achieved as much success as President Obama, even though they are/were not popular with mainstream America. Farrakhan and Malcolm have long taught lessons of self-sufficiency that empower African Americans, but also alienate us when we are perceived as being too “radical.” Malcolm reminded us, very clearly, that someone liking you can be very different from someone actually respecting you.

It is also problematic to compare the feats of President Obama to those of Martin Luther King and other civil rights leaders of the past. President Obama is not a civil rights leader or a black leader; he is an American leader. In that regard, he can’t be compared directly with Martin Luther King, Malcolm X or even the first runaway slave. He has his own unique place in history, which will be debated for centuries, but his being black doesn’t automatically turn him into the next MLK.

Another thing that must be kept in mind is that having a national impact is not always the same as having an impact on the African American community. You can compare it to the parent who goes off and earns millions for himself vs. the parent who earns far less but gives all of his income to his family. President Obama’s contributions to America are undeniable. But we should not always assume that his gifts to America are gifts to the black community. Our collective decision to remain politically silent during the Obama presidency argues that Obama’s gifts to America were largely the result of our decision to sacrifice our rights to true democracy.

Is President Obama an outstanding figure in black American history? Absolutely. Is he the greatest black man to have ever lived? Probably not. How Obama measures up is in the eye of the beholder, but we must make sure that our eyes are not blinded by the shine of wealth and power that comes with being in the White House. Obama’s legacy as an African American historical figure should be judged primarily by tangible evidence of his sacrifices and gifts to the black community, and not by his popularity among the descendants of our historical oppressors.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boycewatkins; corruption; fraud; fruad; louisfarrakhan; malcolmx; martinlutherking; nobama2012; obama
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To: nickcarraway

“Is President Obama Among The Greatest Black Men Ever?”

Good grief, I hope not! Talk about a low bar.


41 posted on 03/02/2012 12:09:53 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: nickcarraway

Clarance Thomas, Walter Williams, and Thomas Sewall would have to be dead for centuries in order for their IQ to sink to the Cretin-in-Chief’s level.

Obama is a vapid dork.

Repeat after me...

Obama is a vapid dork.

There, doesn’t the truth feel better?


42 posted on 03/02/2012 12:10:24 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: nickcarraway
Please post intelligently.

This group? Not likely.

43 posted on 03/02/2012 12:10:34 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: nickcarraway

To obtain a true ranking of his greatness among blacks - since he is half black / half white - you would have to:

1) quantify his “black” greatness
2) double it
3) position his greatness accurately among all black candidates

You could also do the same for his “white” greatness.


44 posted on 03/02/2012 12:10:55 PM PST by KMJames
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To: nickcarraway

Is he higher or lower on the list than Mike Tyson?


45 posted on 03/02/2012 12:10:58 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Hi yellar, mulatto.


46 posted on 03/02/2012 12:11:00 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Cleopatra was, I believe of Greek descent.


47 posted on 03/02/2012 12:11:13 PM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: nickcarraway

“...For many centuries, the epitome of African American achievement has been to become the first black president...”

For many centuries???? The country is less than two and a half centuries old so the opening of the article is weirdly worded.

Politicians are not as highly respected at military men so fighter pilots who went up the ranks to make general like Chappie James reached the epitome of “arriving” long before Obama. Boys dream about being fighter pilots and generals more often than president I would venture.

But the main thing is that Obama is a huge failure as president, lacks substance, and only delivers jive in a sterotypical manner that should be especially offensive to Blacks.


48 posted on 03/02/2012 12:12:15 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: nickcarraway
The Obama’s marriage was our own, and our sense of protection of the president and his family was the kind that tends to be reserved for our closest relatives.

Please post intelligently.

OK:

Must. Stop. Bashing. Head. Against. Wall.

49 posted on 03/02/2012 12:12:41 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: carcraft

never mind, I just stumbled across my own ignorance..LOL


50 posted on 03/02/2012 12:13:01 PM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: nickcarraway
Is President Obama Among The Greatest Black Men Ever?

Is the bar that low?

51 posted on 03/02/2012 12:13:07 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: carcraft

That’s correct. She was a Ptolemy.


52 posted on 03/02/2012 12:14:05 PM PST by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: nickcarraway
Many American Blacks do not consider Obama to be a real Black man at all, much less the ‘greatest’.

Many of the parade of ‘Revs’ who claim to be Black leaders have said so.

Obama has not lived what is called in America "the Black experience".

53 posted on 03/02/2012 12:14:54 PM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Da Coyote

Oops, that’s Dr Sowell, not Sewall.

Oh, Obama’s still a vapid dork.

A stupid vapid dork.

A Muslim, stupid vapid dork.

Get the picture.

The dork is a loser.


54 posted on 03/02/2012 12:14:59 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: carcraft

Greece hasn’t turned out that well.


55 posted on 03/02/2012 12:15:14 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: nickcarraway
depends who's being asked...

If those who are savvy to the constitution and what this country is made of, no.

If you're of any other ethnic origin besides Caucasian and are a racist, dependent on government or think government should be controlling, if you believe deceit should win you status, the list is long but i’ll cut it short... if you're one of these kinda people, then yes, Obama is the greatest black man ever....

56 posted on 03/02/2012 12:17:06 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: nickcarraway

Wow, don’t even know where to begin.

I would say that if I had to choose the greatest black man ever, it would be between Mansa Musa, Frederick Douglas, WEB Du Bois, or Booker T Washington.

I don’t neccesarily agree with all of their views, but those 4 men alone are categories above Obama.


57 posted on 03/02/2012 12:17:13 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: nickcarraway

I nominate Chuck Berry.


58 posted on 03/02/2012 12:17:34 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: nickcarraway
“How do we properly contextualize President Obama in black American history?”

Obama is the reason the next black POTUS will be a Conservative because no white non liberal American will ever trust a black democrat again running ?

59 posted on 03/02/2012 12:18:17 PM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: nickcarraway
For many centuries, the epitome of African American achievement has been to become the first black president.

Racial groupthink is disgusting.

60 posted on 03/02/2012 12:18:56 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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