Posted on 03/03/2012 9:23:46 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
Yes, Bill Young was first elected in 1970, and Cochran in 1972.
Of course, these are newcomers next to John Dingell, who has now served in the House for 175 years, and would have been serving for even longer had President Jackson been able to stop the Toledo War, and thus admit Michigan as a state, sooner. : )
“The Dems would never let that happen if they got control. “
The only residency Lugar has is at the UN.
He has nothing to do with Indiana. I have e-mailed this SOB a few times on some of his lib positions. I always get snotty e-mails back.
Lugar is done.
Have you seen any polling that indicates that?
Two of the worst Rinos — Lugar and Hatch. Both: OUT!
The one poll I saw had Lugar leading 49/28 with a lot of undecideds.
THAT RIGHT THERE IF TRUE....IS PAST PATHETIC.
Rant off!!
No, but Lugar is done. LOL Have you heard him lately? He sounds horrid and can hardly coherently communicate. Of course, he hasn’t been coherent for years, but it is worse.
It is awful.
“As far as Carson, the Republicans have districted all the “takers” into one geographic slot, and that keeps 3 or 4 other districts completely safe for Republicans. The downside is when you do that, you get the worst of the worst in the rep. but only one of them.”
First of all, the IN-07 was drawn so as to excise the most Republican Marion County suburbs, thus creating hyper-Republican suburban districts, back in 2002, by the Democrats, who had full control of the process. I remember watching the vote by one of the IN houses on C-SPAN, with Republicans complaining about the partisan nature of the Democrat gerrymandering (and it was indeed quite a gerrymander outside of Indianapolis). This was not a Republican scheme to protect Republican congressmen.
Second, while Republicans did control the 2012 redistricting process, and drew a similar IN-07 as before (merely expanding it a bit to meet the equal population requirement), the GOP did not really “go for the jugular” so as to draw *completely safe* districts to its north, south, east and west. Had the GOP really wanted to achieve that, the legislature should have combined the most heavily RAT parts of Indianapolis with the hyper-Democrat city of Bloomington in Monroe County to its southwest, connected by a thin strip of turf in eastern Morgan County. This would have allowed the GOP to draw safe GOP seats not only in IN-04, IN-05 and IN-06 (the latter of which was not safely GOP under the prior redistricting), but also in current battlegrounds IN-08 and IN-09.
Similarly, the GOP redrew the IN-02 to make it comfortably GOP, but not truly safe GOP; had it drawn a hyper-Democrat IN-01 that hugged Lake Michigan and then squirrelled into South Bend, it would have then been able to draw completely safe IN-02.
I understand what IN Republicans did; they took the high road by drawing a map for what should be a 7-2 GOP delegation without resorting to Indiana-Democrat-style gerrymandering. But if the Dems somehow win back the IN-02, IN-08 or IN-09 during the decade, all of that “high road” stuff won’t mean bupkus. Remember, keeping the RATs from winning those CDs not only saves a GOP vote in the House, it also prevents the Democrats from electing a “moderate” who can eventually become a Senate or gubernatorial candidate—with only two hyper-Democrat CDs in NW IN and in Indy/Bloomington, the Dems would send two moonbats to Congress who could never be elected statewide.
Well, I’m not always Mr. Negative... :-P
Not to say UniGov wasn’t an important achievement for Indianapolis in preventing a deterioration (I’d say it wouldn’t have become a Cleveland or Detroit, but more like Columbus, Ohio... a formerly GOP city which has fallen to the dark side), but that Lugar’s singular positive achievement is 42 years old. A term or two in the Senate should’ve seen him retire back in 1988 for a desultory Cabinet position under GHW Bush and permanent retirement afterwards.
I’d have probably tried to get creative enough to find a way to dump enough Republicans into the Carson seat to sack him. The Dems made Dan Burton’s seat so hyper-GOP that he could’ve afforded to shed more than a few. IN could produce an 8R-1D delegation under such circumstances.
The GOP-E is doing this...and in apparent concert with the Dim's.
So what are you going to now?
I think something funky just shot out my nose.
So what are you going to “do” now?
see my post #30
totally agree
It is peculiar I’ve not seen any substantive polling done in this race. Perhaps it is being ignored because Mourdock is a true threat and they don’t want him getting public momentum as a result.
Somebody is doing polling, it may be the candidates themselves.
I’ve been called 3 times in the past month.
“...unless the VT GOP grows a pair...”
Even if the Vermont GOP had a huge pair implanted on them, I don’t think it’d do any good. From the results I’ve been seeing over the last 10 years, the state seems long gone.
Here’s a thread I posted about the primary.
Ping
Richard Lugar may follow in Robert Bennett’s footsteps.
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