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How to defuse the Fluke Issue: a suggestion
Self | 3 Mar 2012 | Self

Posted on 03/03/2012 12:40:31 PM PST by Salgak

Several of my friends have been discussing the Fluke issue, and the larger issue of the entire Mandate. It's flamingly obvious that this is to get the discussion away from the economy in general, and gas prices in particular.

And THEN a friend had the idea: USE it to turn the talk back to the Economy:

How bad is the economy when a young woman can’t even afford the price of a condom?

or

This poor young woman can’t afford to pay for her own birth control. Four years ago, she could have. . . .

Any better ideas ??


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: birthcontrol; fluke; msm; promiscuity; sandytheslut; vanity

1 posted on 03/03/2012 12:40:38 PM PST by Salgak
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To: Salgak

How to defuse it is to announce that we have been had
SHE IS A 30 YEAR OLD IRRESPONSIBLE ADULT ACTIVIST


2 posted on 03/03/2012 12:43:20 PM PST by ronnie raygun (BE BRIETBART)
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To: Salgak

I like it. The problem isn’t that it is so hard to craft a winning message/response, the problem is getting our people to focus and stay on that message. To be fair, they do have to put up with an entire MSM/entertainment establishment trying to trip them up - and because we are in a primary season our own people are trying to trip one another up as well.

But yeah, I like your counter message, “before Obama, women used to be able to afford their own contraception without government help”.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 12:44:34 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Salgak

How to diffuse it is to simply say....if this is your biggest worry then you are beyond help.....


4 posted on 03/03/2012 12:54:16 PM PST by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: ronnie raygun
Maybe the only model that will work is to attract a libel and/or slander suit out of her.

Then we can ask her the questions that will destroy Obama.

5 posted on 03/03/2012 12:56:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Salgak

Why in the hell do you want to defuse the demorats getting caught at fraudulent behavior?


6 posted on 03/03/2012 12:56:37 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Salgak

Why defuse this? It’s killing the Democrats and the radical left. That’s why they are screaming bloody murder. Keep it going! We’ve turned the tables on them. Keep the story alive for weeks if possible. Go, Rush, Go!


7 posted on 03/03/2012 12:58:40 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Salgak

The way to defuse it is to dismiss it as a phony issue intended to distract from Obama’s attack on the civil right of freedom of religion.


8 posted on 03/03/2012 1:00:55 PM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Salgak

There is nothing to DEFUSE from our side. The RATs tried to light up a victory-winning cigar and it EXPLODED nationally right before their lame-ass sorry eyes, so much so, that they had to THROW whatever is left of the ‘prestige’ of the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES with a full frontal PHOTO of him calling this contraceptive-addicted 30 yr old ‘student’ to offer her his ‘support’. He should’ve just as easily sent her some free condoms.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 1:06:24 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Salgak

Why dismiss it? This is major democrat overreaching..


10 posted on 03/03/2012 1:10:00 PM PST by cardinal4 (Bolton/Arpaio 2012 "Kick the UN across the border!")
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To: cardinal4

you are correct. Bill Clinton as President got into with Rush and paid dearly for it. Obama was a fool for getting involved in this matter.


11 posted on 03/03/2012 1:16:49 PM PST by scbison
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To: Salgak

Defuse it???

I don’t see this as a losing situation. Let them bring the battle to Rush.

Remember how he handled Harry Reid?


12 posted on 03/03/2012 1:24:09 PM PST by kidd
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To: Salgak

I sorry she’s suffering. I suggest she take a couple aspirin...


13 posted on 03/03/2012 1:28:27 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: zimfam007

I’m merely suggesting how we can USE the Fluke issue to turn the discourse back to the economy. . . . We’re ALREADY fighting on the Relgious Freedom front. . .I’m just saying we take the fight BACK to the enemy. . .


14 posted on 03/03/2012 1:28:47 PM PST by Salgak
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To: ronnie raygun
When Obama was a nobody in the IL Senate, Fluke was STILL AN ADULT!
15 posted on 03/03/2012 1:29:57 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Salgak
This is not about condoms or BC pills. This is about votes from women, and vilifying the right. This whole thing is the media's doing. They are driving the narrative, and the right has fallen into the trap.

What we should be asking is how it was fine to attack Sarah Palin with such vile statements, but now be outraged when Limbaugh says a bad word toward one of their own.

THIS is what the Obama administration is working on? Is THIS the most pressing issue of the day? Hell no it is not pressing -- in fact -- access to BC pills and condoms is not even a problem!

We are being used by the media, people! Wake up!

16 posted on 03/03/2012 1:33:51 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Salgak
THIS is a Fluke:

and it is protected by FUSES!

17 posted on 03/03/2012 1:35:11 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Salgak

Defuse it? defuse what? The slut’s a slut. maybe she should stop being a slut!


18 posted on 03/03/2012 1:35:37 PM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: Salgak

They’re using this to energize women by casting conservatives as women-haters. They figure that this scandal will take attention away from high gas prices, inflation, and high unemployment.

Rush should offer free advertising to SleepTrain’s competitor, and hit that $hit like dub-step, just repeating it and repeating the message, “buy SleepTrain’s competitor...”

And he should keep the focus on hiiiiiiiigh gas prices, etc.


19 posted on 03/03/2012 1:36:11 PM PST by gaijin
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To: scbison
O’Fluke has been ‘involved’ with Rush for a long time even telling people to stop listening to him back when O’Fluke first mounted his DC throne.
20 posted on 03/03/2012 1:36:12 PM PST by JPG (Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
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To: Salgak

“I’m not asking her to pay for my car so why is she asking me to pay for her birth control pills?”

“Well, I’ll let other people argue over whether ‘slut’ is the proper term for a sexually promiscuous woman. I just feel sorry for someone who’s 30 years old, has already gotten one degree, and still can’t afford to buy birth control”


21 posted on 03/03/2012 1:37:24 PM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Semper911

Bingo!

“When Sarah was called a c*nt and they made fun of her retarded child THAT WAS FINE, but if an entertainer remarks about the nocturnal habits of a slattern, well then that is a HANGING CRIME...”

The double-standard is HUUUUGE.

It’s the truth, so I’m sure that it won’t catch on in the MSM.

Still, nothing is won via defense, so I think he should just keep focusing on inflation, unemployment, and high gas-prices in particular.


22 posted on 03/03/2012 1:41:54 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Salgak

I have a different idea. Where are the conservative reporters going to Georgetown to find out about all the sex that is happening? Let’s get these coed’s on tape telling us how they are suffering due to the high cost of sex.


23 posted on 03/03/2012 2:00:10 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Salgak

So I have to pay for her Fluke-ing around?


24 posted on 03/03/2012 2:03:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Salgak

There is nothing to defuse.

Two things are happening here

Leftist are using this to distract about the economy.

Leftists are using this to vilify conservatives.

Limbaugh said that he thought women would not want to be infantalized by government nannies and that HE thought that they were bright enough and responsible enough to take care of their own birthcontrol issues.

Interesting how the left is staying on message, birthcontrol and womens health, to alienate women from conservatives, following the media lies about Santorum.

This is their wedge issue and conservatives had better take it back strongly. We see women and strong and able to make desisions and take responsibility for our bodies.

REMEMBER, IT IS OUR BODIES, OURSELVES, leftists, not OUR BODIES, OUR GOVERNMENT.


25 posted on 03/03/2012 2:11:50 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Salgak

To connect her plight to the economy, why not say..”GIVEN THE RISING PRICE OF GASOLINE, SHE CAN’T GO TO THE DRUG STORE TO PICK UP HER BIRTH CONTROL PILLS NOR GO RIDING AROUND PICKING UP STRANGE MEN AND HAVING SEX IN THE BACK SEAT OF HER CAR.” Does that work?


26 posted on 03/03/2012 2:13:57 PM PST by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: Salgak

A Statement from Rush
March 03, 2012

For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone’s bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.


27 posted on 03/03/2012 2:14:46 PM PST by Walmartian (An update is available for this tagline. Click here to download.)
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To: Vendome

Is it true her name rhymes with “luck” and not “Luke”?


28 posted on 03/03/2012 2:16:56 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Salgak

Abstinance is free...


29 posted on 03/03/2012 2:19:43 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Salgak

Yes, it sound as though the economy has gotten her down and she is trolling for the position of “courtesan” or “kept woman”. Perhaps she should look for a job as a governess somewhere in order to keep her reputation intact. Oh, I guess it’s too late for that! (I’ve been reading way to many historical romances lately.)


30 posted on 03/03/2012 2:21:36 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Salgak

“How bad is the economy when a young woman can’t even afford the price of a condom?”

That’s not bad, actually. First, the debate has to do with, primarily, the unconstitionality of Obamacare and, secondarily, the unconstitutionality of this particular mandate (violation of the 1st Amendment).

The Democrats have concocted a ridiculous assertion to change the dynamic of the conversation because they know they can’t win the debate on the actual topic. “How bad is the economy when a young woman can’t even afford the price of a condom?” is just as ridiculous an assertion and is completely unanswerable from Democrats who are back to defending the economy, which they wanted to divet attention from in the fist place.

I like it.


31 posted on 03/03/2012 2:22:02 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Salgak
How bad is the economy when a young woman can’t even afford the price of a condom?

That's actually pretty good.

32 posted on 03/03/2012 2:22:52 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: LibFreeUSA
the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES with a full frontal PHOTO of him calling this contraceptive-addicted 30 yr old ‘student’ to offer her his ‘support’.

Obama's courtesan!

33 posted on 03/03/2012 2:24:41 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Salgak

Defuse the issue MY ASS!!! These low down rotten bastids want a fight and we had better be ready to give it to them. These cultural marxists are utterly dishonest, corrupt, destructive and care nothing for the truth. To evade a fight with these contemptible parasites is to fail in our duty to God and the self evident truths ot the Declaration.


34 posted on 03/03/2012 3:48:49 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank

. . .which is why I’m suggesting we turn it right back at them.

Think of it as political ju-jitsu: they made it an issue, we use it to counter-attack them. . .


35 posted on 03/03/2012 4:01:42 PM PST by Salgak
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To: Salgak

Better ideas? Yes, several but the most basic: If this person is going to engage in immorality then then she can pay her own way.


36 posted on 03/03/2012 4:13:20 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: elcid1970

PHluck if I know but, I do know her charade wasn’t some Fluke chance.


37 posted on 03/03/2012 4:15:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Salgak

The only problem is finding a Republican with the balls to say, “If she needs $1,000/year in taxpayer money for birth control, and condoms are available at 3/dollar on Amazon, then she is having sex 3,000 times a year. She needs to get off her back and get a job!”


38 posted on 03/03/2012 4:21:13 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Salgak

Actually, all we need is for a GOP-E type to ask, “Why should I pay for her to have sex, if she isn’t having it with me?”


39 posted on 03/03/2012 4:30:51 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Salgak

How about, “Keep your vagina out of my pocket! Pay for your own contraceptives!”


40 posted on 03/03/2012 4:32:44 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Salgak
Any better ideas ??

Not a better idea but food for thought. Promote a campaign to have millions send her a bottle of aspirin!!!

41 posted on 03/03/2012 4:45:48 PM PST by varon
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To: Semper911

Yes, exactly. The right needs to stop allowing this to be called a “women’s health issue” - it is not, it is about federal government controlling and mandating what private business cover - it is none of the federal governments concern.


42 posted on 03/03/2012 4:50:20 PM PST by utford
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To: Vendome

Rush has apologized. Western Civilization has collapsed.

Lock & load, wait for the barbarians to storm the gates, and enjoy the final luxury of dying standing up, weapon in hand.

I’m not kidding.


43 posted on 03/03/2012 6:05:48 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Salgak

Yeah how about calling her what she is, a left wing activist gimmee girl who wants to mooch off people making 40K per year while she’s attending a law school that costs at least that much.


44 posted on 03/03/2012 6:08:33 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Ask how she was able to get that testimony all set up and on tv.

Ask why she was so interested in Georgetown Law in particular, since she is actually interning....in California, isn’t it?

Watch her clothes/appearances. And how much time she is taking from her ‘internship.’ Where is that ‘internship’? With which ;aw firm? What practices does it have?


45 posted on 03/03/2012 6:23:38 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Salgak

LOL...the economy is so bad young law students have to turn to hooking to pay for their birth control!


46 posted on 03/03/2012 6:26:14 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Salgak

Maybe we should have “send a condom to Fluke” day.


47 posted on 03/03/2012 9:29:10 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: stayathomemom

Rush can apologize all he wants. It doesn’t change the fact that everything he said is true. Truth hurts sometimes. The girl is a pimp (pimping to get all the rest of us to pay for her and others to have the ‘freedom’ to have ‘protected’ sex), and she is a ...(female who can’t afford to have sex unless WE PAY for it)!


48 posted on 03/04/2012 7:41:13 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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