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Since when did intellect and education become bad things?
Hanford Sentinel ^ | March 8, 2012 | Kevin Horrigan, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Posted on 03/08/2012 1:16:40 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

As a card-carrying member of the media elite, it’s hard for me to say something nice about Newt Gingrich. But here it is: He doesn’t wear blue jeans in public.

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For many Republican primary voters, the only thing worse than a regular elite is an intellectual elite or a media elite or especially a liberal intellectual media elite.

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More to the point, does the fact that a guy reads books and deals in ideas disqualify him?

For many Americans, it does. Anti-intellectualism has been a consistent theme throughout American history. The political scientist Richard Hofstadter won a Pulitzer Prize for “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.”

This was in 1964, and Hofstadter was writing about the 1950s, in the wake of McCarthyism and Adlai Stevenson’s “egghead” campaign. Hofstadter noted “hostility to intellectuals expressed on the far right wing, a categorical and folkish dislike of the educated classes and of anything respectable, established, pedigreed or cultivated.”

Now it’s back. The most prominent American conservative is not the erudite William F. Buckley but the seething Rush Limbaugh.

.....If ideas and knowledge are elitist, if you have to pretend to be ignorant to be elected president, then the country is in more trouble that we thought it was.

(Excerpt) Read more at hanfordsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: condescending; cslewis; elite; msm; notvisionary; russellkirk; stupidparty; visionary
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To: loveliberty2
Women, youth, men, so-called "seniors"--all need to have the choice presented clearly that this election pits the ideas of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and America's other Founders against the ideas of Marx, Lenin, and Keynes.

There are always "useful idiots." That's what every oppressive regime has relied upon.

Beautifully expressed thoughts, loveliberty2 - if you have a ping list, please add me. Thanks.

61 posted on 03/08/2012 6:20:12 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex—buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For many Republican primary voters, the only thing worse than a regular elite is an intellectual elite or a media elite or especially a liberal intellectual media elite.

Intellectual? He's putting us on. Right? Liberals haven't had a new idea in 50 years - most older. 'Elites should run things' is the history of human misery. Powerful small groups of elites and masses of the downtrodden have been the norm. Not a pretty norm.

Elites propped up by a criminal class is banana republic - and just as 'old'. Just as 'intellectual'. The writer of this piece wants to march backwards with liberal flags flying.

What conservatives are calling for is revolutionary - that 'the people' make the choices NOT the 'so called, self described' elites.

These types are so afraid of 'diversity of ideas' the average newsroom doesn't have ONE conservative on staff. I'm embarrassed for this guy ... I'm embarrassed for all of them.

And if this idiot reads this I'd like him to point out a stable culture - a working culture - ( not ideas from Plato's Republic) but a WORKING STABLE CULTURE run by 'intellectuals'. It's never worked - well, not without massive misery...

62 posted on 03/08/2012 6:39:43 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex—buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: NoGrayZone
M'rrrrrow. :-)

I'd thank you, except I find that your screen name is strangely offensive to me.

...oh, never mind. You're not talking about me, you spelled it 'grAy'

Cheers!

63 posted on 03/08/2012 7:07:25 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: loveliberty2
Ledeen put his finger on a problem that stifles meaningful dialogue and debate in America. Censors [disguised as "protectors" (the Radical Left's ACLU, NEA, education bureaucracies, etc., etc.)] have imposed their limited understanding of liberty upon generations of school children.

From America's founding to the 1950's, ideas derived from religious literature were included in textbooks, through the poetry and prose used to teach children to read and to identify with their world and their country.

Suddenly, those ideas began to disappear from textbooks, until now, faceless, mindless copy editors sit in cubicles in the nation's textbook publishing companies, instructed by their supervisors to remove mere words that refer to family, to the Divine, and to any of the ancient ideas that have sustained intelligent discourse for centuries.

You might enjoy this: it's an old Jack Chick track re-vamped to slam Obama and the Truth Teams.

Cheers!

64 posted on 03/08/2012 7:32:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; grey_whiskers; GOPJ; All
To stephenjohnbanker: Yes, Dr. Kirk was a special man who possessed a deep understanding of what he called the "Foundations of the Unique American Experience" and the ideas of liberty upon which America's Declaration of Independence was based.

Prior to the Bicentennial Year of the Constitution, he contributed his understanding and writing to a volume entitled, "Our Ageless Constitution," which was published in 1987. Out of print for many years, it was reprinted recently and is available here. A click on the "Endorsements" tab will show 1987 reactions to this 292-page illustrated book, including one from then-President Reagan.

The following is just one of Dr. Kirk's contributions to that work. It is reprinted, with permission from the Editors:

THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CITIZENS

"Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature." - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787

Background And Original Intent

"A good constitution is the greatest blessing which a socie­ty can enjoy." So said James Wilson, in his oration at Philadelphia on July 4, 1788, celebrating the adoption of the Constitution of the United States. Wilson, who signed both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, preached startlingly democratic theories - more democratic than the ideas of any other delegate to the Constitutional Convention.

Yet Wilson emphasized the duties, as well as the rights, of citizens:

"Need I infer, that it is the duty of every citizen to use his best and most unremitting endeavours for preserving it [the Constitution] pure, healthful, and vigorous? For the accomplishment of this great purpose, the exertions of no one citizen are unimportant. Let no one, therefore harbour, for a moment, the mean idea, that he is and can be of no value to his country: let the contrary manly impres­sion animate his soul. Every one can, at many times, perform, to the state, useful services; and he, who steadily pursues the road of patriotism, has the most inviting prospect of being able, at some times, to perform eminent ones."

Wilson's argument is quite as sound now as it was two centuries ago. The success of the American Republic as a political structure has been the consequence, in very large part, of the voluntary participation of citizens in public affairs - enlisting in the army in time of war; serving on school boards; taking part unpaid in political campaigns; petitioning legislatures; sup­porting the President in an hour of crisis; and in a hundred other great ways, or small-assuming responsibility for the com­mon good. The Constitution has functioned well, most of the time, because conscientious men and women have given it flesh.

The Premises of Americans' Responsibility Under the Constitution of 1787

In the matters which most immediately affect private life, power should remain in the hands of the citizens, or of the several states - not in the possession of federal government. So, at least, the Constitution declares. Americans have no official cards of identity, or internal passports, or system of national registration of all citizens - obligations imposed upon citizens in much of the rest of the world. This freedom results from Americans' voluntary assumption of responsibility.

In matters of public concern, it was the original intent to keep authority as close to home as possible. The lesser courts, the police, the maintenance of roads and sanitation, the levying of real-property taxes, the control of public schools, and many other essential functions still are carried on by the agen­cies of local community: the township, the village, the city, the county, the voluntary association. Citizens' cooperation in voluntary community throughout the United States has been noted and commended in the books of Alexis de Tocqueville, Lord Bryce, Julian Marias, and other distinguished visitors to the United States, over the past two centuries:

A republic whose citizens - whose leaders, indeed - are concerned chiefly with "looking out for Number One," and ig­noring their responsibilities of citizenship, soon cannot "insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare" - or carry on the other major duties of the state. When the crisis comes, the people may turn in desperation to the hero-administrator, the misty figure somewhere at the summit. But in the end, that hero­administrator will not save the republic, although he may govern for a time by force. A democratic republic cannot long endure unless a great many of its citizens stand ready and will­ing to brighten the corner where they are, and to sacrifice much for the nation, if need be.

Has The Consciousness of Responsibility Withered in America?

For the past five or six decades, several perceptive observers have remarked, an increasing proportion of the American population has ceased to feel responsible for the common defense, for productive work, for choosing able men and women to represent them in politics, for accepting personal responsibility for the needs of the community, or even for their own livelihood. Unless this deterioration is arrested, the responsible citizens will be too few to support and protect the irresponsible. By 1978 there were more people receiving regular government checks than there were workers in the private sector.

What follows, if we are to judge by the history of fallen civilizations, is described by Albert Jay Nock in his book Memoirs of a Superfluous Man (1943):

"... closer centralization; a steadily growing bureaucracy; State power and faith in State power increasing; social power and faith in social power diminishing; the State absorbing a continually larger proportion of the national income; production languishing; the State in consequence taking over one 'essential industry' after another, managing them with ever-increasing corruption, inefficiency, and prodigality, and finally resorting to a system of forced labor. Then at some point in this process a collision of State interests, at least as general and as violent as that which occurred in 1914, will result in an industrial and financial dislocation too severe for the asthenic [weak] social structure to bear; and from this the State will be left to 'the rusty death of machinery' and the casual anonymous forces of dissolution."

Modem civilization offers a great variety of diversions, amusements, and enticements - some of them baneful. But modem civilization does not offer many inducements to the performance of duties, except perhaps monetary payment, and certainly it does not teach people that the real reward for responsible citizenship is the preservation of a free society.

It is not money that can induce citizens to labor and sacrifice for the common good. They must be moved by patriotism and their attachment to the Constitution. And patriotism alone, ignorant boasting about ones native land, would not suffice to preserve the Republic.

Thus it is that on the occasion of the Bicentennial celebrating of the Constitution, a mighty effort ought to be made to restore the American public's awareness of the principles of their government, of their responsibilities toward their country, their neighbors, their children, their parents, and themselves to be sure that their patrotism is based on this solid foundation. No one knows how late the hour is; but it is later than most people think. Love of the Republic shelters all our other loves; and that love is worth some sacrifice.

Responsibilities Are Readily Forgotten

Nearly all of us are quick to claim benefits, but not everybody is eager to fulfill obligations. We have become a nation obsessed with rights, forgetful of responsibilities. In an age of seeming affluence, a great many people find it easy to forget that all good things must be paid for by somebody or other - paid for through hard work, through painful abstinence, sometimes through bitter sacrifice. Below we set down some of the causes for the decline of a sense of responsibility among some American citizens.

In other words, the temptation of public men in Washington is always to offer to have the federal government assume fresh responsibilities - with consequent decay of local and private vigor (it might be argued that, at least in part, a failure in the proper exercise of citizens' responsibility permitted the development of the welfare state syndrome - that the government owes them a living. In any event, once it got under way and the welfare state grew, the sense of citizens' responsibility and rugged individualism deteriorated).

These are only some of the reasons why a 'permissive" society speaks often of rights and seldom of responsibilities. A time comes, in the course of events, when abruptly there is a most urgent need for men and women ready to fulfill high and exacting and dangerous responsibilities. And if there are no such citizens, then liberty can be lost. It must be remembered that the great strength of the Signers of the Declaration and the Framers of the Constitution was that they knew their classical history, and how the ancient Greek cities had lost their liberties, and how the Roman system had sunk to its ruin under the weight of proletariat and military state.

Prospects For The Renewal Of Responsibility

What may be done by way of remedy? Although America's social difficulties are formidable, probably they are less daunting than those of any other great nation today. The economic resources of the United States remain impressive; and the country's intellectual resources are large.

This essay cannot offer, in its small compass, a detailed program for the popular recovery of devotion to duty. Here we can only suggest healing approaches:

In your own circumstances, you may encounter oppor­tunities for the renewal of responsibility more promising where you live than any suggested here. In any society, it always has been a minority who have upheld order and justice and freedom. If only one out of every ten citizens of the United States of America should vigorously fulfill his responsibilities to our civil social order - why, we would not need to fear for the future of this nation.


Consider

  1. In all previous cultures, children ordinarily accepted responsibility for the well-being of their parents in old age; and in various societies, the children were so held accountable in law. Why has this form of responsibility decayed in the twentieth century? Can you think of political and social causes for the care of elderly parents being turned over to public agencies?

  2. Can you name seven or eight voluntary associations or organizations, not subsidized or directed by government, that perform important services in your community or in America generally? Explore the benefits from this kind of involvement as opposed to "letting the government do it."

  3. Responsible citizenship sometimes brings risks - all the way from unpopularity in some local dispute to pushing forward under enemy fire in military action. How may schools help to teach the rising generation the high importance of performing duties that may be dangerous?

  4. Are you and I personally responsible for our decisions and actions, or are we simply creatures of our environment, "conditioned" to respond in one way or another to events and challenges? Marshal the arguments on either side of this question, and then consider the probable social consequences of believing in freedom of the will, or believing that society, rather than the individual person, is responsible for citizen's actions.

  5. What are you doing to help preserve the great principles on which this nation and your personal freedoms are based?


Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part VII Essay (Dr. Russell Kirk & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Co-Authors):  ISBN 0-937047-01-5 Read more

65 posted on 03/08/2012 8:37:37 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks for the ping!


66 posted on 03/08/2012 8:58:28 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: loveliberty2

Thank you so much for your outstanding essay-post, dear loveliberty2!


67 posted on 03/08/2012 9:00:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: grey_whiskers
But all the time there must be no faintest hint that they are inferior to the children who are at work. Whatever nonsense they are engaged in must have – I believe the English already use the phrase – “parity of esteem.” An even more drastic scheme is not possible. Children who are fit to proceed to a higher class may be artificially kept back, because the others would get a trauma — Beelzebub, what a useful word! – by being left behind. The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval’s attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT.
Wow.
That describes the program of the NEA down to the last nanometer, doesn't it?
Sure does - ”parity of esteem” is now called “self esteem,” and teachers assay to manufacture the feeling of accomplishment without leading the student to actually accomplish anything.

68 posted on 03/08/2012 10:54:56 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“hostility to intellectuals expressed on the far right wing, a categorical and folkish dislike of the educated classes and of anything respectable, established, pedigreed or cultivated.”

In short, a disdain for French-style 'sophistication'. That same 'sophistication' which embroiled the entire world in warfare no less than three times, in the space of a century and a half. Now, I might just be a dumb ol' country boy, but I think I'll pass on that, thank you kindly sirrah...

the infowarrior

69 posted on 03/08/2012 11:28:13 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: wideminded
Thank you, good points. I wish we had more details about the accident in which he shot a teenage girl to death. I have Amy Bishop suspicions.
70 posted on 03/09/2012 4:16:22 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes, whatever one may think of G.W. Bush those who see him as stupid are simply showing their own mental deficiency.


71 posted on 03/09/2012 6:00:43 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: Cicero

Absolutely, what is meant now by education is really only the possession of degrees, “sheepskins” to hang on the wall. Education has little to do with it.


72 posted on 03/09/2012 6:03:58 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Never, Kevin. Are you under the impression you have them?


73 posted on 03/09/2012 6:09:16 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: fini

“A lot of the elite think that knowledge is the same as judgment. Here is the difference between knowledge and judgment: You show knowledge by knowing that a tomato is a fruit. You show judgment by knowing that you do not put a tomato in a fruit salad.”
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Excellent but I suspect there are a lot of fruits and vegetables who won’t understand it.


74 posted on 03/09/2012 6:31:32 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

You show you are are a leftists by passing a law declaring a Tomato is a bread and anyone who says otherwise is committing a hate crime.


75 posted on 03/09/2012 6:39:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I see that you have a complete understanding of how things work;>)


76 posted on 03/09/2012 7:10:07 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: longtermmemmory; RipSawyer

If not going the full “hate crime” route,

they will at least call you “stupid” or “anti-science” for disagreeing.


77 posted on 03/09/2012 7:12:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: loveliberty2

Thank you so much for taking the time to post all of this. I read it all!
SJB


78 posted on 03/09/2012 8:05:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: GOPJ; loveliberty2

“”Is it now high time for the people of this country to explicitly declare whether they will be free men or slaves. It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent, it is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice.” - Samuel Adams””

Look at Obama, then look at our modern culture. It isn’t hard to see how he took power. No he is tearing down the last vestiges of all that we hold dear in American society


79 posted on 03/09/2012 8:15:16 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Thanks. Sometimes, one gets a little lengthy, but this discussion took a turn yesterday which seemed to invite it.

Hope the links will be useful too!

Folks like the writer quoted on this thread seem not to understand that "Ideas have consequences"(Weaver).

The ideas of 1776 came out of a set of ideas consistent with liberty.

We tend to forget, or have never considered, that other world views existed then, as now.

Unless today's citizens rediscover the ideas of liberty existing in what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776, we risk going back to the "Old World" ideas which preceded the "Miracle of America."

There are those who call themselves "progressives," when, in fact, their ideas are regressive and enslaving, and as old as the history of civilization.

Would suggest to any who wish an authentic history of the ideas underlying American's founding a visit to this web site, at which Richard Frothingham's outstanding 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States" can be read on line.

This 600+-page history traces the ideas which gave birth to the American founding. Throughout, Richard Frothingham, the historian, develops the idea that it is "the Christian idea of man" which allowed the philosophy underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to become a reality--an idea which recognizes the individual and the Source of his/her "Creator"-endowed life, liberty and law.

Is there any wonder that the enemies of freedom, the so-called "progressives," do not promote such authentic histories of America? Their philosophy puts something called "the state," or "global interests" as being superior to individuals and requires a political elitist group to decide what role individuals are to play.

In other words, they must turn the Founders' ideas upside-down in order to achieve a common mediocrity for individuals and power for themselves.

80 posted on 03/09/2012 9:08:51 AM PST by loveliberty2
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