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Doctor Claims Everything You've Heard About Cholesterol and Heart Disease is Wrong
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/03/08/quick_hits_page ^ | 3-8-2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/08/2012 7:35:50 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather

RUSH: Now, this health story. The website's called Signs of the Times, and the story here is by Dr. Dwight Lundell. "Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease." The upshot of it is that everything that we think we're doing to promote cardiovascular health is actually contributing to cardiovascular problems. This story prints out six pages. The doctor wrote it. So many times I have mentioned over the years about diet, health, food, how we are being manipulated by government goals, wrong medical ideas. Food activists with a logo and a fax machine putting out bogus information to the media, and they just run with it. As long as it contains "government has to step in to save us," then they'll be happy to promote whatever the lying data is.

So what we have here is a heart surgeon who is saying that he and his profession have been wrong for decades. This experiment with statins and low-fat diets has not worked. He says it's time to move on to another way. I'll give you some pull quotes before getting to the story. "Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before."

Another pull quote. "I saw it in over 5,000 surgical patients spanning 25 years who all shared one common denominator -- inflammation in their arteries." Not blockage, inflammation.

(Excerpt) Read more at rushlimbaugh.com ...


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To: maine-iac7

Your share of what. Of hysterical knee jerking?

There might be valid farming reasons to avoid growing Frankencorn, such as the ease of contaminating the genetic stock of normal corn which is then brought under the patent jackboot (a lose-lose), but you cannot produce evidence that the Franken in the corn gets you more than a hardier plant, and certainly not a modified oil content. And even the Frankenfood has to be compared with not being able to get any food because the normal corn was not productive enough.


51 posted on 03/08/2012 8:58:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Wow, maybe Linbaugh is waking up!

Its getting to the point that close to half of the people are aware that “mainstream medicine” is a death caucus.


52 posted on 03/08/2012 9:00:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; ...
Wheat Belly

Nanny State PING!

53 posted on 03/08/2012 9:01:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

that crazy breatharian housewife would literally cry when stomach pains forced her to eat...she thought it was because she was sinful or not meditating right, etc...she was big boned and didn’t look anorexic at a distance, but close-up her skin was just hanging on her and she looked 35 going on 65

i have never met a vegan or strict vegetarian who was the picture of health...ever...and their attitudes and demeanor were far from high-minded and holy in the ones i met

i kind of liked the fruitarian idea on paper, maybe i just liked fruit...but after 48hrs i’d had enough...i met the most gorgeous girl who wanted me to come with her to Antelope OR and live with the Bagwan...but to get the girl she wanted me to follow a macrobiotic diet...which according to her was brown rice every day and maybe bean sprouts for christmas if you were good...

well, after about two days of brown rice, she was hot, but not THAT hot...i stepped out on her to have an intimate rendevous with a sizzling med rare porterhouse, a beer and a bottle of A-1...even my left ventricle was saying “thank you Jesus he’s come back to his senses”...lol...the things we do for love!


54 posted on 03/08/2012 9:03:33 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: steve86

A lot of the global warming stuff is peer-reviewed, too, but that doesn’t mean we dismiss S. Fred Singer as a crackpot.


55 posted on 03/08/2012 9:05:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> “Maybe it makes more health sense to use corn or soy oils for that big turkey frying project” <<

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Corn and soy are some of the worst oils, along with safflower, and canola. The best deep frying oil remains lard. If it were not for the expense, the best choice would be frying at a lower temp and using virgin coconut oil, but it is expensive. It does leave a great flavor on the bird.


56 posted on 03/08/2012 9:06:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> “Maybe it makes more health sense to use corn or soy oils for that big turkey frying project” <<

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Corn and soy are some of the worst oils, along with safflower, and canola. The best deep frying oil remains lard. If it were not for the expense, the best choice would be frying at a lower temp and using virgin coconut oil, but it is expensive. It does leave a great flavor on the bird.


57 posted on 03/08/2012 9:06:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
People like this guy are largely irresponsible. Coronary disease is multi-factorial, and cholesterol deposition in the artery wall facilitates inflammation. The role of inflammation in coronary disease is well-established and certainly not the brain-child of this guy.

People like you are far more dangerous. You have no credentials, you make no citations, you reference no conditional results. You make casual blanket statements implying total knowledge of a subject you could be reading off of a cereal box in your mother's basement - except that you're obviously paid to carefully reverse the key relationship this doctor is carefully examining, and negate the very concepts he's presenting, with ZERO support for your brain farts.

And s for inflammation being well-established, is that why so many people are still dying of it? You want to cite some references to go with your one-liners?

People with genetic syndromes that lead to very high cholesterol levels have a markedly increased incidence of coronary disease, and mutations in specific cholesterol metabolism genes in mice leads to cholesterol deposits in their arteries.

So what does this bullsh!t have to do with the causitive relationship between cholesterol buildup and inflammation? How do you know those mice don't have a genetic predisposition towards inflammation that leads to the cholesterol deposits? Where the hell are your citations? Where are your conditional conclusions? Where are your conditions at all? Where is the link between mice and humans in this particualr area? You're full of it, and you know it.

The bottom line is that cholesterol levels are a significant risk factor for coronary disease, unquestionably. That doesn't mean there aren't other important risk factors. There clearly are, including high blood pressure, smoking, and genetics.

The bottim line is that you are doing everything you can to cloud the immense importance of this potential finding. And once again you simply throw out a laundry list of fators and pretend it's intelligent, when citations, causations, interations, and relative importance of factors that can be directly affected by anti-inflammatories is comletely ignored. You're pathetic.

The statins, incidentally, have been shown to decrease vascular inflammation.

Really? According to what studies? In what context? And how do you know this isn't the only reason they work at all, and that you're not confirming this doctors findings while trying to dismiss it? Or is this your verson of a limited hangout, a plausible denial where, after dissuading the readers from seriously considering these findings about the role of inflammation, you wash your hands, laugh, and say "buyer beware."

I think you attempted mass murder with your post, and probably for a shill paycheck at that.

But don't worry - there's no such thing as karma, and as for God, well, you're obviously smarter than God, and your bullshit is so good it will never be held against you. And why? Because you're a fricking genius, that's why. people just have no idea how smart you are, do they? How frustrating for you.

58 posted on 03/08/2012 9:07:01 PM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Nobody explains how wheat is supposed to be responsible for a situation that came upon society centuries after it began to consume wheat.

Unusual diets do have the virtue of drawing new attention to what we eat, and we often eat too much just because it’s there even after we have ceased to feel hungry during the meal. If corn were the main starchy food, then dropping corn (and adopting something else like, say, wheat) would suffice equally to this end.


59 posted on 03/08/2012 9:07:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: maine-iac7

There may be something to the GMO hysteria. After all, wheat has been so modified and hybridized beyond what grandma used to bake her bread that it has basically become a noxious weed, even though it still tastes good.


60 posted on 03/08/2012 9:08:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: editor-surveyor

I would not recommend deep frying in any solid fat. It drips onto the plate, solidifies, and looks weird. I know, I tried it.


61 posted on 03/08/2012 9:09:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Bump...


62 posted on 03/08/2012 9:09:43 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: steve86

>> “Let’s throw out 50 years of peer-reviewed published research” <<

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Just one set of liars supporting another.

A liar’s peer is another liar. The results speak for themselves; polyunsaturated oils do cause type II diabetes, and probably alzheimers too.


63 posted on 03/08/2012 9:10:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I challenge all people making such claims to produce analyses of old food versus new or “franken” food. That’s what turns the anecdote (the plural of which is not “data”) into something like science.


64 posted on 03/08/2012 9:11:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


65 posted on 03/08/2012 9:12:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: maine-iac7

i really haven’t heard a convincing argument against frankenfoods, whatever genetic material in them gets broken into individual aminos, sometimes unusual amino balances will have certain effects; none life threatening...like an overdose of tryptophan at a turkey dinner makes you sleep thru the ball game, etc...

the bad effects on non-franken plants thru cross pollination i can see, but there are remedies...

what is the big danger in frankenfoods that i’m missing? all the warning literature seems high on hyperbole and short on substance...


66 posted on 03/08/2012 9:13:08 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: org.whodat

“LOL, who was the old hippie that said eating trees would make you live forever,”

Do you mean natural foods expert Euell Gibbons?

He’s dead.

Died of “Natural Causes”.

Really.


67 posted on 03/08/2012 9:13:35 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

In the past few decades, wheat has been hybridized and cross-bred again and again to bring out qualities such as resistance to pests. But at no time, as the wheat genome was effectively being tampered with, were new strains of modern wheat tested on animals and humans to see what the results would ultimately be, health-wise.

And this I have gotten just from reading the first part of the book. I’m about to read the second part, where all the negative health effects the author says result from modern wheat are discussed.

From what I understand, simply eating a diet rich in carbohydrates is detrimental to people, too.


68 posted on 03/08/2012 9:13:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: steve86
Let’s throw out 50 years of peer-reviewed published research and instead go with some retired doc who sells T-shirts, 9/11 conspiracy books, and “channeling” seminars on the sidebar. Yes, of course, eat less processed food but that isn’t the answer for most.

Maybe you have not been keeping of with "peer-reviewed" research. You can start with:

High Ratio of Triglycerides to HDL-Cholesterol Predicts Extensive Coronary Disease

Cardiovascular and Hormonal Aspects of Very-Low-Carbohydrate Ketogenic Diets

Endothelial inflammation in insulin resistance

Here is a quick summary. Cholesterol is not the enemy. It was insane to identify it as the culprit for heart disease to begin with. The relationship was not causation, but association. Cholesterol is a marker and reflects an inflammatory response. This inflammatory response is prevalent in metabolic syndrome or syndrome X. Metabolic syndrome is a precursor to Type II diabetes. Type II diabetes is insulin resistance. Insulin resistance results in increased Triglyceride lipid levels. Insulin resistance and increased Triglyceride levels are associated with endothelial inflammation or vascular heart disease. Cholesterol is the bodies way of repairing the arterial walls. The constant repair of the arterial wall results ultimately in blockage. Blockage results in heart attacks.

Lower Cholesterol is the same as a fire department going to the house to put out the smoke. Now go back to the NIH and the 7 year statin study. There was a big problem. At the end of this big study there was no evidence that statins saved lives. The opposite was actually found. People died of other "natural" causes. Specifically cancer became a risk factor and people were still dying of heart disease. How did the NIH resolve this? They came up with an entire new school of statistics involving "relative lives saved." Not actual, but a nebulous relative predictor. From that conclusion we were off and running with statins.

Now you need to go back to how our government handled dietary guidelines and specifically the food pyramid. Obesity, metabolic syndrome and Type II diabetes were low prior to the pyramid adoption. Afterwards during the following decades these disorders began to track to the epidemic proportions they are today. Did I mention that the food pyramid was not "peer-reviewed", but adopted by government fiat under the McGovern commission during the peanut farmer Carter years. Many Cardiologist were furious about this. I wonder why?

The end effect of the food pyramid was to load up the American diet with carbohydrates. It does not matter if it is a grain or sugar. The end result in the Krebs cycle is the same. The pyramid required that Americans change their diets to a carbohydrate based one versus a balanced fat, protein and carbohydrates. There really should have been no surprise what the end result would be on insulin levels.

Finally and especially over the past 10 years the issue of a carbohydrate based diet is getting further attention by medical researchers. Just Google or Bing Triglycerides and Very Low Carbohydrate (VLC) diet. Here is one random pick:

Study Shows Low-Carb Diet Improves Cholesterol.

This study is from Duke. Now let's be honest. Is this a 9/11 truther site?

It is getting late. On a final note I would add that no one should be taking statins unless they truly have familial hypercholesterolemia. Sadly, even the levels for this diagnosis have been corrupted. If you don't have this disorder than the important thing is to lower your Triglyceride levels with Niacin and VLC diets. It just works. The ratio to be attained is <2.0.
69 posted on 03/08/2012 9:15:04 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: AnTiw1

None of them go through testing on animals and humans, as far as I know, so it cannot be determined either way, without extensive research, what the effects are after consumption has already begun.


70 posted on 03/08/2012 9:16:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Thanks for the post. Please see my post 69. We have all been had. The fingers always point back to an intrusive and incompetent Federal Government.


71 posted on 03/08/2012 9:16:46 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I'd still assert that there haven't been enough years of experience with "pure" polyunsaturates to establish such a link in humans, even though monounsaturates are believed today to be healthier. (One notable study claimed that a goodly portion of olive oil would knock your chance of getting a heart attack down by almost 50% in the following 12 or so hours. Intriguing and a good excuse to eat more olives and olive oil, but I'd like to see the science affirm it.)

Anyhow, the partially hydrogenated fats, such as the old Crisco, were the form in which these polyunsaturates were mostly incorporated in the American diet. That period really cannot be counted in evaluating the effect of the polyunsaturates.

72 posted on 03/08/2012 9:16:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>> “Nobody explains how wheat is supposed to be responsible for a situation that came upon society centuries after it began to consume wheat.” <<

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That’s not completely true.

We’ve changed the type of wheat we use, and the ways we use it. Bleached white flour is unnatural.

We’ve switched to using Hathi whole wheat flour, and all of the wheat issues disappeared almost instantly.


73 posted on 03/08/2012 9:18:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And of course publishers (book and newspaper) often have no better reason to publish what they do than that it grabs eyes with startling statements?


74 posted on 03/08/2012 9:18:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: editor-surveyor

I’d say any diet in which you prepare your own everything that has wheat in it — even if using bad old Gold Medal bleached flour — is going to be watched more carefully than one where all has been prepared for you.


75 posted on 03/08/2012 9:21:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: butterbean
It explains the bogus Lipid Hypothesis and the story of the McGovern committee that led us into this mess. It’s presented in a light comedic way. Informative and entertaining. Refutes Morgan Spurlock’s Supersize Me as well.

Thanks. I missed that one. If people only knew how badly they have been played.
76 posted on 03/08/2012 9:25:20 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Talisker

“You have no credentials”

I’m a physician. What I am saying, and I can back it up with more publications than you would have time to read, is that cholesterol deposition, and inflammation play crucial roles in the genesis and progression of coronary artery disease. Further, they are linked.

This guy is not a scientist. He’s just another cardiovascular surgeon. Sewing grafts onto blood vessels doesn’t make you an expert on lipids, or inflammation, or atherosclerosis. He did not discover the concept of vascular inflammation, and if you look at the biomedical literature over the past decade alone you will see a huge amount of literature on the topic of inflammation and vascular disease. It’s an absolutely established concept. Not something new that this guy came up with. There is nothing Earth shattering or new about what he is saying. Patients with lupus, for example, can have very early and very severe atherosclerotic vascular disease, related in large measure to the vascular inflammation that occurs as part of that disease. Nothing new.

The irresponsible part is when he implies that cholesterol levels don’t matter. There is absolutely no scientific basis for that statement, and a plethora of published data to the contrary.

I didn’t attack you, and I respect your right to your opinion.


77 posted on 03/08/2012 9:25:41 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: AnotherUnixGeek; All

You say: “Genetically modified crops are key to feeding the world, both now and in the future. The crops can also be engineered to provide better nutrition and other health benefits. There’s no need to use scare language about a technology which already makes it possible to feed millions who might otherwise starve.”

The proof is in the pudding - and it’s coming home to roost.There’s a reason some 30 countries have banned GMO’s and some are suing (France, India, Spain, for Monsanto violating the ban.)

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7nf2kFlPgXkAmBVXNyoA?p=countries%20reject%20monsanto%20gmo&fr2=sb-top&fr=ytff1-

Now, SUPER BUGS are developing that are resistant to the chemicals - rather like the super bugs that are resisting the antibiotics in medicine. (How did man ever survive for tens of thousand of years without all these chemicals?)

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7jpVj1lPhxwAMTUQRAUJ?p=resistant%20to%20roundup&fr=ytff1-

A lot of big money invested in forcing countries/farmers to use their patented seed. Bill Gates has 23 million invested in Monsanto. Gee, I wonder why he pushes Monsanto’s GMO’s?

And medically -

http://www.livestrong.com/article/216714-dangers-of-gmo-foods/

Monsanto chemicals increase yield? Is that their real goal - or is is “Who controls the food, controls the people”?

http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture/science_and_impacts/science/failure-to-yield.html

Once a farmer plants GMO (or the wind blows GMO pollen onto another farmer’s crops) that farmer cannot save seed to plant next season - he must BUY Monsanto’s seed, year after year...not a good deal for any farmer, let alone in poor countries. And his land is now toxic...

just a tiny bit of the picture


78 posted on 03/08/2012 9:29:34 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I have noticed that by adding flaxseed oil and ditching the margarine in favor of real butter has helped a lot. Not only do I feel better, but I have lost 25 lbs, taken 4 inches off my waist, have less desire to eat and my blood pressure has dropped significantly. Still have several dozen lbs to lose but it is heading in the right direction by ignoring the conventional wisdom.


79 posted on 03/08/2012 9:30:45 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Talisker

Thanks for the post. You saved me a great deal of time taking his BS apart. I cover some of this in my post at 69. Thanks again. I am just so tired of the the “True Believers.”


80 posted on 03/08/2012 9:31:23 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m not simply taking the guy’s word for it. I’m going off wheat myself to see if it makes a difference. If it doesn’t, I’ll be less 15 dollars and no other harm done.


81 posted on 03/08/2012 9:35:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

The question that ought to be asked about the cholesterol, is whether the cholesterol is following onto damage or whether it is causing damage. You don’t want to necessarily blame the trucks with the asphalt to patch road potholes for causing the road potholes, even though pothole-free roads won’t have any of these trucks on them.


82 posted on 03/08/2012 9:37:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Testing homemade wheat products versus commercial ones should be informative.


83 posted on 03/08/2012 9:38:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: PA Engineer

Thanks for your post and links.

Statins are indeed truly risky. They can cause severe muscle cramps and worse...even death, if I understood the pharmacology book correctly.


84 posted on 03/08/2012 9:39:25 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I’m a physician. What I am saying, and I can back it up with more publications than you would have time to read, is that cholesterol deposition, and inflammation play crucial roles in the genesis and progression of coronary artery disease. Further, they are linked.

That is nice. Did you ever stop to think that the relationship is associative and not causative? Cholesterol is a marker. You would be better of at looking at Triglyceride and HDL ratios. These are predictive.
85 posted on 03/08/2012 9:41:02 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: taxcontrol

Real butter just plain tastes nicer too. You find yourself needing less of it than you did of margarine.


86 posted on 03/08/2012 9:43:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: sheikdetailfeather

To quote one of my M.D. colleagues,”Statins are religion among physicians.”


87 posted on 03/08/2012 9:44:38 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Eh, I don't have time to grind my own flour from old-fashioned triticum aestivum like grandma used to use. Could I even find the old-fashioned version anywhere?

(The old stuff is the typical "amber waves of grain" we all heard about, rather than the two-foot tall, fat-headed stuff -- the modern version of triticum aestivum -- that is typically used today.)

So I'm simply avoiding the stuff.

88 posted on 03/08/2012 9:44:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The question that ought to be asked about the cholesterol, is whether the cholesterol is following onto damage or whether it is causing damage. You don’t want to necessarily blame the trucks with the asphalt to patch road potholes for causing the road potholes, even though pothole-free roads won’t have any of these trucks on them.

That is a good analogy. The one I use for Statins is a fire department that only puts out the smoke.
89 posted on 03/08/2012 9:45:49 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I still think it’s the attention to the diet that makes the difference, even if the diet is made of the same wheat. Does the modern wheat have less protein and more starch than the old fashioned wheat? A certain quantity of protein is needed to make it work well in baked goods and pasta, and cooks would be complaining if the new wheat could not live up to this.


90 posted on 03/08/2012 9:51:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There may be something to the GMO hysteria. After all, wheat has been so modified and hybridized beyond what grandma used to bake her bread that it has basically become a noxious weed, even though it still tastes good.

After one of my little granddaughters suffered every day for 8 years while doctors and specialists in Maine, Canada, Texas and Florida (military) couldn't pin point it - and pooh poohed my daughter for bringing in printed material from the Internet - A naturopathic doctor at a a health fair, with one drop of her blood, correctly diagnosed it as 'gluten intolerance', exactly what my daughter suspected. From that day on, she has had no pain.

In the process, our family has become 'learned' in regards to gluten. And we are healthier.

It's a growing awareness as witnessed by the 'gluten free' products now in stores.

Also, bob's Red Mill puts out many different gluten free flours. And gluten free recipes abound on the Internet.

On of Bob's Red Mill flours I haven't tried yet, but think I will, is "spelt" - which is, basically what wheat was in Biblical times.

91 posted on 03/08/2012 9:52:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I challenge YOU to start with watching the movie “Food inc,”

One could be suspicious, reading all your posts, that you are working for/connected to Monsanto/politicians.

Enjoy your chemical laced foods. No one’s stopping you.


92 posted on 03/08/2012 9:56:07 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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To: maine-iac7

I don’t panic over amounts of stuff that wouldn’t kill a flea if all I got of it were concentrated down to flea size. You’re talking about traces that need the most modern equipment to even discern are present.


93 posted on 03/08/2012 10:01:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: maine-iac7

It’s a shame that the celiac disease (which is also often hereditary) was not spotted by a normal physician, but c’est la vie. Good luck with your gluten free diet. An estimated 0.5% of Americans need one.


94 posted on 03/08/2012 10:03:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: editor-surveyor

“If it were not for the expense, the best choice would be frying at a lower temp and using virgin coconut oil, but it is expensive”

Coconut oil has been recommended as a preventative and partial cure for Alzheimer’s. My wife and I have recently tried it, but it seems to cook differently. She says it’s hard to get it hot enough to fry catfish. It’s $5.95 at Wallyworld, and $5.48 at HEB for almost two pounds. It’s also a great (and cheap) body lotion.

http://www.coconutoil.com/AlzheimersDiseaseDrMaryNewport.pdf


95 posted on 03/08/2012 10:06:44 PM PST by matthew fuller (A patriotic American would be ASHAMED to have 5 non-veteran adult sons.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s a shame that the celiac disease (which is also often hereditary) was not spotted by a normal physician, ...

As I said, she has 'gluten intolerance." Altho' similar to celiac, it isn't celiac.

Most doctors treat it as IBS - 'spastic gut' - but far too few diagnose it correctly.

96 posted on 03/08/2012 10:08:50 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

You left out canola (rapeseed) oil. It’s an industrial seed oil. It’s full of Omega 6 fatty acid and it is beyond unhealthy. It’s also in a huge percentage of the processed foods in the grocery store.


97 posted on 03/08/2012 10:16:21 PM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: PA Engineer; LS
We have all been had. The fingers always point back to an intrusive and incompetent Federal Government.

Refer to Larry Schweikart's (FReeper ls's) Seven Events That Made America America.

98 posted on 03/08/2012 10:19:58 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: vickixxxx
Great article....my doctor told me this 5 years ago. Inflammation the worst thing for your heart. That inflammation is brought on by bacteria or viruses or other causes. Best test to get is the inflammation test.

What is the inflammation test?

99 posted on 03/08/2012 10:29:59 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: BartMan1

ping


100 posted on 03/08/2012 10:31:29 PM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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