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1 posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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It’s quite simple, and boils down to two words:

1) Free
2) Trade

We’ve taken the side, of foreign competitors, against Americans. During a time of rising unemployment.

We could not adhere, to any worse political position.


3 posted on 03/11/2012 5:43:01 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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What happens is what I call the peeing your pants analogy.

All the videos and hard work when it only preaches to the choir is like peeing your pants. For that moment you have a nice warm feeling. But shortly thereafter, you're left with nothing more than cold and wet clothing and no accomplishment.

4 posted on 03/11/2012 5:43:29 AM PDT by joesbucks
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We need to take over media outlets. Also, when we do have a foot in the door, forget this “fair and balanced” crap.


5 posted on 03/11/2012 5:45:15 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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So much truth in this. He is a little more pessimistic on results than he should be. Our message does get out on a lot of issues, and in polling we are winning on a vast majority off issues in terms of public opinion. Even through this whole contraception manufactured controversy, 50 percent were polling with us...only 39 percent were for mandated coverage.

We have all but won the 2nd amendment issues, and we have done well to gain in the abortion issue.

Still, all the things the author are true, we should do so much better, and need to push harder in the ways he is saying because we often win the political issues but lose in policy because the will is not there to force politicians to stand behind the tough issues. For all the political capital spent since the midterm we should have something more substantial to show for it. Yes, the bleeding as stopped to some degree and we are now cutting a little instead of spending a lot more, but we should have used better techniques to score some bigger wins....like major reform of a particular department or something that we could have gotten the public to rally behind. Instead, Obama was able to reshape the debate as gridlock and lack of compromise, giving him a lifeline in the reelection year. Our messaging sucks and our ability to get the message out widely is terrible.


8 posted on 03/11/2012 5:51:40 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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We better do something before it is too late.

Like Newt said, we are at a crossroads. This is very dangerous times.

9 posted on 03/11/2012 5:52:18 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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I guess there aren’t many conservatives left - Romney and Santorum won again yesterday. Newt is the conservative pick in this race. Didn’t anyone learn from Dole and McLame?


11 posted on 03/11/2012 6:00:37 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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The problem is institutional and insurmountable.

The message is controlled by liberals because liberals control the message.

Why? Schools produce the practitioners of the media and the schools are liberal.

Why? Because the schools are funded by the government. We therefore have a self-sustaining parasite that will feed on the producers until they die and then blame them for dying.

To paraphrase, "Have another Tocqueville of sweet American freedom." for ze joke she is over.

Lock and Load.

13 posted on 03/11/2012 6:06:17 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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I'm sanguine.

Once Rick Santorum gets the nomination the wealthy conservatives will kick so much money into Superpacs (remember,the SCOTUS authorized the big money for all candidates) that the MSM will get filthy rich showing commercials that will defeat their beloved Obama.

The irony will be delicious.

18 posted on 03/11/2012 6:12:23 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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We need to “Be Breitbart” .... he went on the OFFENSIVE ... I always see Conservatives on the defensive. The Progs swarm like African bees .... they attack and they defend their own. I guess we’re too polite, too detached, too submissive. won’t take off our gloves and punch back .... lots of characteristics of Conservatives that are not good if we are to defeat the enemy. The Progs have heard the call to battle and are on the battlefield ... we’re still trying to get folks out of bed. (Note: I know this does not apply to all Conservatives ... some are already fighting the good fight, but their numbers are few compared to the Progs).


22 posted on 03/11/2012 6:48:41 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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The problem with the conservative movement is that for many it has become a comfortable career with health insurance and retirement benefits and nothing more.


23 posted on 03/11/2012 6:54:38 AM PDT by MNnice
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I’ve been lamenting for years that if the MSM won’t cover conservative causes/events (a given) BUY time on TV and get the message out.

IMO conservative leaders have the mindset that most folks will ask, be critical of the BS that liberals and the MSM spew out. Wrong !
It’s the headlines stupid !

Just Friday I watched Diane Sawyer of ABC fame talking about our 4th warmest winter and the link to Global Warming.
No mention of last winter or Europe,Middle East, Asia gripped in the Winter of all Winters. Buried under tens of feet of snow. Even snowing in Algeria, Morocco.
Ninety nine percent of the watchers of her will shake their heads and think Global Warming must be here, never looking at the rest of the globe.


24 posted on 03/11/2012 6:55:11 AM PDT by Vinnie
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It is frustrating to see so clearly how liberalism is damaging our country, and then hear the chorus of voices telling us we may have to put up with four more years of this crap.

I’m not ready to give the “conservative movement” its last rites just yet.

The media echo chamber does make it seem as if all is lost. I am however, consoled by the memory of how the Democrats were pretty well torn apart by their contentious primary in 2007 and 2008, and they seem to have come out of it ok. I am also heartened by the fact that the vaunted liberal media shilled for each and every Democrat who ran in 2010, and the left still received an historic drubbing.

We should take some comfort in the fact that one of the lessons of the 2010 elections is that the voting populace is willing at times to not listen to what the media wants them to believe.

Since 2010 we’ve witnessed more failure of liberal policies. This is what we see. What we are being told we are seeing of course, is different, but at what point do people begin to believe their own eyes?

The gulf between what is seen with our own eyes and what the media wants us to believe has never been greater. This chasm could easily become the media’s credibility gap. It’s the media’s credibility that needs to be put on death watch, not the conservative movement.

We may even be approaching the point where people begin to believe the opposite of what they hear from sources they can no longer rely upon.

For three years now, the media has been creating an alternative universe, one in which everything is fine with the economy and the Obama presidency. These are the waters we will continue to be required to swim in, right up to the election. The question is will the media meme be believed or will enough sentient voters consider the source and vote on what they can see with their own eyes?

If the voters are swayed as much as they were in 2010, then Obama and the left will receive another shellacking.


28 posted on 03/11/2012 7:19:47 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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31 posted on 03/11/2012 7:39:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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Well I can remember the bad old days when there was NO conservative movement. Before Goldwater and Buckley, few of us knew what a conservative was. So we have made a huge amount of progress.

And the Tea Party is proof that the public is waking up. Most of those people have never been involved in politics before or in any kind of protest movement. Wait until this election cycle is over and then see how many bums get thrown out of Congress.


34 posted on 03/11/2012 7:59:10 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Newt --named after Isaac Newton?)
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What’s Wrong with the Conservative Movement?

The problem is that conservatives don't fully embrace [insert pet issue here].

36 posted on 03/11/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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In Presidential politics this “Anybody But [fill in name of democrat]” philosophy is killing us. It means we throw away all standards, all principles and replace it with one goal -electing a republican. Means we will accept ANYONE the GOP elites hand us.

We are giving up our minds and our souls to the GOP elite.


38 posted on 03/11/2012 8:22:05 AM PDT by DManA
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What we need is someone with the money and guts to break the mold. Since most people don’t watch the news, we need to go where the most people are – prime-time television.

They fight under the Marquis of Queensbury rules; the left employs a guerrilla warfare designed to win at all costs.

CLICK ON IMAGE.... BREITBART

39 posted on 03/11/2012 8:32:39 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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Good find. Derek Hunter gets it. Breitbart understood the problem, too, and was effective in getting around the progressive roadblocks.

There are a few others who naturally pass through the road blocks, such as Reagan and Palin, and they're generally easy to spot:

The left tells us who they fear and then tries to kill them.

The only candidate who comes close to that ideal this election is Newt Gingrich, which is why he's marginalized and ignored as much as possible by all in the state run media, including Fox.

43 posted on 03/11/2012 8:54:28 AM PDT by GBA (Natural Born American)
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It’s not really a conservative movement...


44 posted on 03/11/2012 8:56:57 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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Sounds like it comes down to money. If conservatives had enough money to donate to Newt or Rick, Romney wouldn’t be able to outspend them and win the nomination through his conservative-bashing ads. If we had the money to run ads on network TV, we’d also have the money to back a conservative candidate. If Mitt Romney wins the nomination, it’s a far bigger problem for the movement than anything else. It could spell the death of the movement for 16 years at a minimum. So, why don’t we have enough money? Is the movement too small and driven by poorer people? Or is there simply no real fundraising effort being made by Tea Party or conservative groups? Why isn’t there a Tea Party SuperPAC?

Not to mention, there are serious problems WITHIN our own group, if you believe the polls in some states where sometimes half of the Tea Party people are backing Romney. Perhaps the Tea Party isn’t organized enough. Maybe we should take a page from the Mormons, get everyone on regional mailing lists, organized into regional groups that can act locally, think nationally.


45 posted on 03/11/2012 9:07:59 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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