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The Panjwai 16
Daily News ^ | March 15, 2012 | Michael Yon

Posted on 03/15/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by Kaslin

The mass murder in Afghanistan was predictable. Twice in the past three weeks, I published that it was coming. Why was I able to write this with sad confidence? I’ve spent more time with combat troops in these wars than any other writer: about four years in total in country, and three with combat troops.

About 200 coalition members have been killed or wounded from insider attacks. Afghan President Hamid Karzai is tantamount to being Taliban and has not bothered to apologize. Instead, Karzai whips up anti-U.S. fervor at every opportunity. Twice, Karzai has threatened to leave politics and join the Taliban.

Even our most disciplined troops — not the few problem troops — have lost all idealism. They have not lost heart for the fight. Mostly, they just don’t care. They fight because they are ordered to fight, but they have eyes wide open. The halfhearted surge and sudden drawdown leave little room for success.

We face a discipline collapse. The bulk of our force is solid — then there’s a small fraction, probably a sliver of a percent, who might be crushed by the pressure.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; gwot; kandahar; panjwai; wot

1 posted on 03/15/2012 12:31:08 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Twice, Karzai has threatened to leave politics and join the Taliban.

First I've heard of that. I say let him. Then we can put a Hellfire up his ass and be done with it.

2 posted on 03/15/2012 12:35:56 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kaslin

“Pashtuns don’t care about our justice system. They don’t even care about the Afghan government; they want blood for blood. We are being drawn into a feud.”

From the article.

With Obama’s insane foreign policy, and I do MEAN insane, this is no surprise. Under these circumstances with this Usurper heading this unconstitutional government, the best thing that can be done, I fear, is to get our forces out. ASAP


3 posted on 03/15/2012 12:39:34 PM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, ortha bhais is beatha, do cheal deanaimh)
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To: Danae

I agree completely


4 posted on 03/15/2012 12:44:30 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

War is violent and the Muslim understands this and so can be as violent as necessary to achieve their goals and objectives.

Our leaders may know that war is violent, but not understand it to be so. That’s why they have this unreasonable expectation that we go in there, destroy infrastructure, then build it back up for them and expect them to love us for it.

Afghanistan should have never been about Nation building. It should have been strictly punitive and then a treaty of forced occupation via 99 year leases concentrated at some location within Afghanistan.


5 posted on 03/15/2012 12:49:16 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Danae

Obama is Jimmah on steroids. We can’t get our troops out of there fast enough with that moron in charge.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 12:49:53 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Lurker

Prior to Karzai being the head of the government, I have heard he was a senior consultant in the are for Unical.


7 posted on 03/15/2012 12:55:08 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Kaslin

America needs Obama out of office and America out of Afghanistan.


8 posted on 03/15/2012 2:03:50 PM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Kaslin

Just soak their poppy fields with RoundUp and bring the boys back home.


9 posted on 03/15/2012 2:21:31 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Kaslin
Vietnam II - the sequel

Much of this is George Bush's fault:

Forcing a sham democracy upon a corrupt, dysfunctional society was probably the biggest mistake, & mirrors the failed effort in Vietnam.

Engaging in an endless war with no victory strategy & the unwillingness to attack the enemy wherever it is found (Pakistan) for political reasons, is the same stalemate position we found ourselves in, in Vietnam.

Restrictive ROEs are another mistake. The entire population of Afghanistan is not worth the life of one US soldier. Yet our soldiers are hamstrung into using dangerous ground tactics to find/attack the enemy.

Hearts & Minds, too, is a failed policy, as in Vietnam. In both countries, Afghanistan & Vietnam, the US is seen as another hated invader. These people are no more interested in converting to a democracy than the USA is interested in converting to a cannibalism.

It is easy to predict the end of this farce. The US will pull out in exhaustion & shame, same as Vietnam. The Taleban will take over & al_Qaeda will be back to claim all the expensive hardware we leave behind.

All we will have to show for it will be the many lost & destroyed lives of our soldiers, & probably a trillion dollars wasted; in exchange for a few thousand dead terrorists, who have already be replaced by others.

Are American Presidents the only fools in history who have bought into this bad bargain, repeatedly?

There is only one way to win a war: Beat down the enemy brutally until he surrenders or dies. Note that neither democracy nor Hearts & Minds is a part of that statement.

10 posted on 03/15/2012 3:46:53 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Kaslin

Unless it’s a new policy there, the NY Daily News doesn’t have to be excerpted.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 10:58:45 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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