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Romney, Santorum argue over English as requirement for Puerto Rican statehood
CNN ^ | 03/16/2012

Posted on 03/16/2012 12:59:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Rick Santorum's contention that in order for Puerto Rico to become a state English must be its principal language drew criticism Thursday from the U.S. territory's sole representative in Congress.

"Santorum's view is narrow and a limiting view of what America is all about," said Pedro Pierluisi, a Democrat, on CNN's "Starting Point." "English is the predominant language in the U.S. and will continue to be so, whether Puerto Rico becomes a state or not."

Puerto Rico will vote in November on a referendum regarding possible statehood.

While campaigning Wednesday ahead of the island's primary on Sunday, Santorum told a newspaper that for Puerto Rico to become "a state of the United States, English must be the principal language."

There is currently no law declaring an official language of the United States, though several attempts have been made to give English that designation. Thirty-one states have passed laws mandating English as their official language. The Constitution also makes no mention of a language test for territories or properties that wish to become states.

Both English and Spanish are official languages of Puerto Rico, though Spanish is by far the dominant language on the island.

Santorum was spending a second day in Puerto Rico on Thursday, courting voters ahead of the primary. Asked about his comments on Thursday, Santorum told CNN, "English has to be learned as a language. It has to be a country where English is widely spoken and used. Yes."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: english; officialenglish; puertorico; romney; santorum
NOTE THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN AND CONTRAST THIS WITH SANTORUM's STANCE:

Romney's campaign issued a statement on Thursday contrasting his position on the issue with Santorum's. "Puerto Rico currently recognizes both English and Spanish as the official languages of the commonwealth," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul. "Governor Romney believes that English is the language of opportunity and supports efforts to expand English proficiency in Puerto Rico and across America. However, he would not, as a prerequisite for statehood, require that the people of Puerto Rico cease using Spanish."

1 posted on 03/16/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Santorum’s view is narrow and a limiting view of what America is all about,” said Pedro Pierluisi, a Democrat


2 posted on 03/16/2012 1:02:08 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: SeekAndFind

A non-issue in the campaign.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 1:05:32 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: SeekAndFind

I doubt these 2 are really fighting over Puerto Rico. It represents so few votes. What the fight is really about is the hispanic vote in America, the ‘process’ for becoming a citizen, and what the cultural impact of non-english speaking immigrants (illegal or legal) have on the middle class.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 1:06:37 PM PDT by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would think the president should weigh in. He believes all cultures are equal. Therefore, a language from his home would be appropriate.... Swahili. But then again, he is a ardent admirer of Urdu...

Then America needs to follow with some states being German, some Italian, some French, some English. It all makes perfect Obomination sense, anything other than what made America the successful place it was.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 1:07:14 PM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just as long as we don’t stay focused on the economy and Obama.

We’re actually allowing questions like Puerto Rico statehood and English as the official language to even enter the debate? Good grief!

Are our politicians really this stupid, that they can’t steer the debate back to the central issues: the economy, oil prices, ObamaCare, and jobs.

I don’t care what the question is or who asked it. The answer should be about the economy, oil prices, ObamaCare, and jobs.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 1:14:13 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney will right-size the economy--just like he did your job when he bought your company)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cut PR loose... no more funds and no more welfare and they can be totaly free and independent of evil America.

LLS


7 posted on 03/16/2012 1:15:17 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: SeekAndFind

While I agree with Santorum, IMO, the bigger issue of PR statehood is getting them to take a position one way or the other. Frankly, I’d just as soon they go the other way than vote for statehood.

We have carried PR for way too long as a territory and need to force them to either fish or cut bait. Currently, they have all of the benefits of statehood with NONE of the responsibilities.

While some of my best friends are Puerto Ricans, I would still ask PR get off the d@mn pot and make a decision - statehood, or sovereign nation!!


8 posted on 03/16/2012 1:21:56 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Why statehood?

Just declare INDEPENDENCE — The Republic of Puerto Rico.

The Philippines was once a Commonwealth of the USA, they have been independent since 1945. Some 70 years later, it si still a thriving Democracy and VERY FRIENDLY to America.

Can you imagine two more liberal Spanish speaking Senators and several Congressmen from Puerto Rico voting for more goodies and pork?

Can you imagine a Puerto Rican Harry Reid as majority leader of the Senate?

Why not just declare your own country and leave the USA... Learn from the Philippines.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 1:29:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why statehood?

Because that's what's been on the table for decades. They've had several votes up or down and managed to keep the vote right at about 50% both ways. So, the situation remains status quo. BTW, I agree with you, I'd just as soon see them be cut loose.

As for the PI, have you ever been there? I have. I love the country and the people and have never traveled anywhere else where I have encountered such depths of poverty. Following the US pullout of the PI after Mt. Pinatubo blew and then-president Aquino decided to raise the rents on the US bases to an amount we refused to pay, life in the PI got VERY hard. That's not to say that it was any sort of picnic for the Filipinos while we were there but, at least, there was a steady source of money coming into the island.

Since we pulled out, they have managed to remain independent, but they are, essentially, limping along. There isn't much of a gross domestic product to export and the lack of strong industrial base coupled with a workforce that lacks a lot of skills necessary for capital investment makes the PI a weak target for outside development.

While I do not wish the same for PR, I do wish they would simply make a decision one way or the other and just move on!!

10 posted on 03/16/2012 1:53:40 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why statehood?

Because that's what's been on the table for decades. They've had several votes up or down and managed to keep the vote right at about 50% both ways. So, the situation remains status quo. BTW, I agree with you, I'd just as soon see them be cut loose.

As for the PI, have you ever been there? I have. I love the country and the people and have never traveled anywhere else where I have encountered such depths of poverty. Following the US pullout of the PI after Mt. Pinatubo blew and then-president Aquino decided to raise the rents on the US bases to an amount we refused to pay, life in the PI got VERY hard. That's not to say that it was any sort of picnic for the Filipinos while we were there but, at least, there was a steady source of money coming into the island.

Since we pulled out, they have managed to remain independent, but they are, essentially, limping along. There isn't much of a gross domestic product to export and the lack of strong industrial base coupled with a workforce that lacks a lot of skills necessary for capital investment makes the PI a weak target for outside development.

While I do not wish the same for PR, I do wish they would simply make a decision one way or the other and just move on!!

11 posted on 03/16/2012 1:55:08 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My two cents worth: ENGLISH only - otherwise stay out. This political correctness garbage has got to go. In order to vote in this country you must be a citizen. In order to be a citizen in this country you must speak English. ‘nuff said. Dual language ballots, etc., just costs extra money and must stop. Why do we do these things?


12 posted on 03/16/2012 1:58:50 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: SeekAndFind
Romney, Santorum argue over English as requirement for Puerto Rican statehood

This is all just so much Bull$hit...PR doesn't want to be a state, and with the current bunch of A$$holes in Washington, probably nobody else does either. Well...maybe "East Buttpucker" so they can get unemployment, wellfare, foodstamps, grants, and stimulous. Then they will all vote for "O".

13 posted on 03/16/2012 2:06:19 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: frogjerk
A non-issue in the campaign

Yep - and probably legally indefensible. I wish our guys (Rick and Newt, but mainly Rick) would stop and think before they esposed certain opinions/philosophies. All this does is stir up both sides and it accomplishes nothing of value.

14 posted on 03/16/2012 2:11:08 PM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: frogjerk

Correct — this is the next “wag the dog” salvo (like contraception) to portray Conservatives as “anti-Latino”...


15 posted on 03/16/2012 2:11:42 PM PDT by mikrofon (NObama '12 -- No Way, No How)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good grief, don’t we have bigger issues than this?

Who votes for these guys?

JB


16 posted on 03/16/2012 3:07:34 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: New Jersey Realist
My two cents worth: ENGLISH only - otherwise stay out. This political correctness garbage has got to go. In order to vote in this country you must be a citizen. In order to be a citizen in this country you must speak English. ‘nuff said.

You do understand Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, right? That's been so since 1917.

17 posted on 03/16/2012 4:19:37 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: New Jersey Realist
I know that most of my fellow U.S. citizens are not considered erudites in geography and lots don't know anything about politics beyond what they hear on Fox News, but are you people aware that those of us born in Puerto Rico have been FULL-FLEDGED U.S. CITIZENS SINCE 1917? Nobody asked me if I could speak English when I was BORN a U.S. Citizen, so somehow that logic of English being a requirement for citizenship fails miserably. Also, I have traveled all over the U.S. and, trust me, some of what “passes” for English in some parts of this Country makes “non-English speaking Puerto Ricans” sound like Sir Lawrence Olivier by comparison! Did any of you ever hear Strom Thurmond speak? And if so, where you able to make out A SINGLE WORD THAT HE SAID???? The point is, Congress can “require” whatever they want, but how are they going to ENFORCE IT???? Will the Statehood ballot include a reading comprehension test and a few essay questions like the SAT??? REALLY?????? Oh, and by the way, I don't think that anybody has to “portray Conservatives as anti-Latino”, because Conservatives are doing a very good job at that themselves!
18 posted on 03/16/2012 4:41:49 PM PDT by Jimmo620
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To: Baynative
“Santorum’s view is narrow and a limiting view of what America is all about,”

Don't have much to say about Santorum's narrow view of America, but it is clear that he can't keep from getting sidetracked by superfluous bull shit non-issues. What a doofus! We are so Screwed!

19 posted on 03/16/2012 5:05:41 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, once again Santorum is correct and Romney is pandering using language and idioms that a large percent of Puerto Ricans no comprendes.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 5:14:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: suijuris

Hate to disagree but the doofii are those who pander American territories that don’t have English as their primary language. Why do you want to balkanize America doofus?


21 posted on 03/16/2012 5:18:15 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Jimmo620

Everyone knows Puerto Ricans are American citizens - I spent 3 years there 1962-1965 (great times by the way) but to be a state is totally different. English is mandatory for statehood. No confusion there.


22 posted on 03/17/2012 5:26:40 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Jimmo620

“Did any of you ever hear Strom Thurmond speak? And if so, where you able to make out A SINGLE WORD THAT HE SAID????”

I had no problems understanding Thurmond or anyone else with a southern accent. What was your problem? Have you ever lived in Meeammee?


23 posted on 03/17/2012 7:02:39 AM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: frogjerk; All
A non-issue in the campaign.

BULL CRAP!!! Republicans just cannot get it through their friggin' head that the Hispanic vote is a big chunk of votes, and all flavors of Hispanics (Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican) stick together. If he is the nominee, this will follow him all the way to November. Rick NEVER does well speaking off the cuff. Why the hell wasn't he briefed on this before he got to Puerto Rico.

JUST DAMN!!!
24 posted on 03/17/2012 4:29:50 PM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy; It's gotta be Newt or Rick, and it's not looking good for Newt.)
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To: jwalsh07
Hate to disagree but the doofii are those who pander American territories that don’t have English as their primary language. Why do you want to balkanize America doofus?

Guess my point was a bit over your head. Santorum continues to get sidetracked by collateral issues that are not on the public's radar now and certainly will mean nothing to the electorate in November. How do you interpret that as an endorsement to balkanize America?

The bottom line is, Santorum can not seem to focus on and articulate the issues that are a direct and immediate threat to the US.

I am surprised that many, particularly older conservatives, are taken in by Santorum's moral proclamations as if that is all it will take to beat Obama. November will be a street fight and nominating a preacher in a sweater vest is not going to get it done. Should Santorum win the nomination he will get his ass handed to him by Obama.

Same for Romney, but for different reasons.

Many conservatives now gloat that Gingrich has been neutralized, but from a pragmatic point of view he was/is the only one on the field who just might have a chance, but apparently he is not moral enough for the holier than thou types.

25 posted on 03/19/2012 12:41:26 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: suijuris
Those who DENY Constitutional Rights DO NOT RESPECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OR DEMOCRACY!!
Language is a Right that has NOT been delegated, by States, to the federal Government.
I am an American, born and raised in the U.S. Territory of Puerto Rico, actually residing in Virginia. I agree in the implementation of English as the FIRST LANGUAGE on every State, not necessary the ONLY one.
Some of you, obviously ignoring the reality of the Americans in P.R., express your “frustration” by requesting the Independence for the People of Puerto Rico. My question is: DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT THE PUERTORRICANS WANT FOR THEIR FUTURE, DO ANYBODY KNOWS??” ANSWER: “The Americans in P.R. has been DISENFRANCHISED OF THEIR VOTING RIGHTA by the US Congress, for been a Territory”. They LACK OF DEMOCRACY,BEEN U.S. CITIZENS SINCE 1917. Their WIIL is DETERMINED, NOT BY THEIR VOTES, BUT BY THE US CONGRESS (see Art. IV. sect. 3, second paragraph of the U.S.Constitution).
These polls (previous local plebicites) that some people refer, has NOT been sponsored by the U.S. Congress; second, all of them have been FRAUDULENT CONTAINING NON-CONSTITUTIONALLY ATTAINABLE STATUS OPTIONS.. But politicians or Mass Media DO NOT TELL YOU THIS!!! WHY??
A LOT of INTENTIONAL MISINFORMATION has been created by the Multi-Nationals who rather prefer to have P.R. as a Territory, by this mean, they would CONTINUE to make BILLION of NON-TAXABLE DOLLARS in Puerto Rico; secondly. those politicians who ARE AFRAID TO MAKE P.R. A STATE BECAUSE OF THEIR POLITICAL POWER IN CONGRESS- Two Senators and EIGHT HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES..
If I were you, I would contact my Senator and Representatives and DEMAND FROM THEM TO SPONSOR A DEMOCRATIC, WITH ONLY CONSTITUTIONALLY STATUS OPTIONS PLEBICITE TO THE AMERICANS RESIDING INPUERTO RICO!!!
If you really want to know what the “Puertorricans” prefer in terms of Status Options. If you do not take these actions, then you are talking “bluff” because you “hate” Puertorricans as a Racist..
If you are NOT RACIST, PLEASE DEMAND THIS PLEBICITE TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS. (Statehood v. Independence ONLY)
THE PEOPLE OF PUERTO RICO WOULD SURPRISE ALL OF YOU!!!
26 posted on 03/21/2012 1:48:41 PM PDT by Mr. Gerardo Ramirez
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