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That's right. Your guys, the self-righteous and indignant fire eaters that wanted to cause as much chaos as possible elected a bumbling backwoods lawyer from the midwest that knew nothing of statesmanship and lamely started a massive war.

Our guys, believing in liberty and justice for all, endured the atrocities until it all ended. Along with it died the concept of a nation governed by men enlightened with the concept of liberty, not egalitarianism.

68 posted on 03/22/2012 2:26:22 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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Our guys, believing in liberty and justice for all ...

Back to where we started. If you don't see that, there's no hope for you. "Your guys" didn't believe in liberty and justice for all. Not many people did back then, but we can at least put in a good word for the few who went a little further than the others.

Along with it died the concept of a nation governed by men enlightened with the concept of liberty, not egalitarianism.

C'mon, egalitarianism came in with Andrew Jackson. You can't break history down like that -- Southerners for liberty and against egalitarianism. Liberty and equality and slavery are pretty well mixed together in American history, and that includes Southern history.

69 posted on 03/22/2012 3:16:05 PM PDT by x
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To: PeaRidge
That's right. Your guys, the self-righteous and indignant fire eaters that wanted to cause as much chaos as possible elected a bumbling backwoods lawyer from the midwest that knew nothing of statesmanship and lamely started a massive war.

Pretending that the instigators weren't from the south and that the north is to blame for the insurrection is kinda like the rapist saying to the woman, "Lady, there ain't nothing you can do so you may as well lay back and enjoy it" lol.

Our guys, believing in liberty and justice for all, endured the atrocities until it all ended. Along with it died the concept of a nation governed by men enlightened with the concept of liberty, not egalitarianism.

You can say that about the modern-day south but that's not remotely the conditions on the ground during any part of the confederacy. And definitely not for the incorrect melanin-hued.

71 posted on 03/22/2012 5:56:18 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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The south did not believe in liberty and justice, rather believed in slavery, and inflicted it on blacks, and on whites who were coerced to guard what they were told was their betters’ slaves.

The National Rifle Association was created to assure black freedmen could have firearms with which to defend themselves from the Klan. The cowards of the Klan preferred to rape and murder the unarmed. The NRA limited their preferences.


99 posted on 03/25/2012 11:25:39 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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