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Angry Turk's Message for Europe: "We are Coming"
stonegateinstitute.org ^ | 16MAR12 | Soeren Kern

Posted on 03/17/2012 9:40:24 AM PDT by bayouranger

"Whether or not you want us in the European Union, our influence in Europe is growing. We are more numerous. We are younger. We are stronger."

A second-generation Muslim immigrant in Austria has authored a provocative new book in which he argues that Europe's future is Turkish, whether Europeans like it or not.

The book's short, sharp and confrontational title says it all: "We are Coming."

The thesis is: "Regardless of whether or not you [Europeans] like us [Turks], whether or not you integrate us, whether or not you want us in the European Union, our influence in Europe is growing. We are more numerous. We are younger. We are more ambitious. Our economy is growing faster. We are stronger."

The author, a 25-year-old Austrian-Turk named Inan Türkmen, says his objective in writing the book is to change the terms of the debate about Muslim immigration in Europe.

Türkmen -- who was born in Austria to Kurdish migrants and speaks fluent German -- says he is sick and tired of the way Turkish immigrants are being portrayed in the European media. He believes the time has come for Turks to fight back.

Taking a page from the playbook of the American Tea Party movement, Türkmen says he wants to establish an "angry citizen movement" (Wutbürgerbewegung) in Europe. His Turkish Tea Party would unite Turkish immigrants in Austria, Germany and other European countries to protest against European "arrogance."

In an interview with the Vienna-based newspaper Die Presse, Türkmen says he decided to write "We are Coming" after getting "hot under the collar" over a recent book about Muslim immigration by the renowned German economist Thilo Sarrazin.

Sarrazin's best-selling book, "Germany Does Away With Itself," broke Germany's long-standing taboo on discussing the impact of Muslim immigration. The book, which was first published in August 2010, is now on its 22nd edition. At last count, more than two million copies have been sold, making it one of the most widely read titles in Germany since the Second World War.

Sarrazin's book has resonated with vast numbers of ordinary Germans who are becoming increasingly uneasy about the social changes that are transforming Germany, largely due to the presence of millions of non-integrated Muslims in the country.

The following are some excerpts from Sarrazin's book:

"In every European country, due to their low participation in the labor market and high claim on state welfare benefits, Muslim migrants cost the state more than they generate in added economic value. In terms of culture and civilization, their notions of society and values are a step backwards."

"No other religion in Europe is so demanding and no other migration group depends so much on the social welfare state and is so much connected to criminality."

"Most of the cultural and economic problems [in Germany] are concentrated in a group of the five to six million immigrants from Muslim countries."

"I do not want my grandchildren and great-grandchildren to live in a mostly Muslim country where Turkish and Arabic are widely spoken, women wear headscarves and the day's rhythm is determined by the call of the muezzin."

"If the birthrate of migrants remains higher than that of the indigenous population, within a few generations, the migrants will take over the state and society."

"I do not want us to end up as strangers in our own land, not even on a regional basis."

"From today's perspective, the immigration of guest workers in the 1960s and 1970s was a gigantic mistake."

The roots of Germany's current problems with Muslim immigration can be traced back to October 30, 1961, with the signing of a labor recruitment agreement between West Germany and Turkey. At the time, West Germany's post-World War II economy was booming and similar treaties with Greece, Italy and Spain were insufficient to supply Germany's seemingly endless demand for labor. By the end of 1969, more than one million Turkish "guest workers" had arrived in Germany to work in the "host country's" industrial zones.

The initial idea was that the Turkish laborers would return home after a period of two years, but the so-called "rotation clause" was removed from the German-Turkish treaty in 1964, partly due to pressure from German industry, which did not want to pay the costs of constantly training new workers. The predictable result was that many Turks never returned home.

Today, the Turkish population in Germany has mushroomed to an estimated 3.5 million, and Turks now constitute the largest ethnic minority group in the country. Demographers expect that the Turkish population in Germany will increase exponentially in coming decades, largely due to a high birth rate and Germany's continuing high demand for foreign workers.

Germany's demand for foreign labor is being fuelled by a demographic crisis in which the German population is not only ageing, but also shrinking, at a rapid pace. According to projections by the German Federal Statistics Office, Germany's current population of 82 million, the largest in the European Union, is set to decline by as much as 20%, to 65 million, over the next five decades. At the same time, 34% of the population will be older than 65 and 14% will be 80 or more by 2060, up from 20% and 5% respectively in 2009.

The twin challenges of depopulation and aging will have major consequences for the financial sustainability of Germany's cradle-to-grave social security system. For example, the number of pensioners that will have to be supported by working-age people could almost double by 2060, according to the Federal Statistics Office. While 100 people of working age between 20 and 65 had to provide the pensions for 34 retired people in 2009, they will have to generate income for between 63 and 67 pensioners in 2060.

This implies that in the future, Germany will become more, not less, dependent on immigrants. And Turks will continue to be a major source of labor, considering that the birth rate among Turkish immigrants in Germany is 2.4, nearly double that of the native German population (which at 1.38 is far below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per couple).

Time is on the side of the Turks and Inan Türkmen knows it. In a highly confrontational essay titled "You Germans Need the Turks more than the Turks Need You" which was published by the Financial Times Deutschland, Türkmen writes: "Our consolation is that Turkish influence in Europe is growing and there is nothing you Europeans can do to stop it. Of course, Turkey has always exerted influence on Europe. Mozart, Hayden and Beethoven were all inspired by Turkish music. Soon you will not even realize it because you will all be a little Turkish. People mix into cultures and I am planning to contribute something to make this happen. Up until now, all of my girlfriends have been European, not Turkish. In the future, freckles will become increasingly rare sight in Europe. The point is: The future belongs to Turkey."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: austria; colonization; europeancunts; europeanunion; filthykoranimals; germany; islam; jihad; pussyeuropeans; turkey
Note to self:

Buy popcorn.

1 posted on 03/17/2012 9:40:38 AM PDT by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger
"Whether or not you want us in the European Union, our influence in Europe is growing. We are more numerous. We are younger. We are stronger."...Europe's future is Turkish, whether Europeans like it or not.

Sounds just like what La Raza says to the U.S.

2 posted on 03/17/2012 9:42:51 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: bayouranger

Why don’t the Germans import their cheap labor from Mexico? They’d be getting people from a Christian culture who speak a European language. Surely it can’t be just the higher cost of the airfare?


3 posted on 03/17/2012 9:45:25 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: bayouranger
I applaud the Turks for being honest about their intentions.

The only way they'll actually pull it off is if the west continues to be dominated by effete leftists. And honestly stating the muslim's intentions is the best way to wake the segment of the population interested in self preservation.

4 posted on 03/17/2012 9:46:15 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks bayouranger.
5 posted on 03/17/2012 9:46:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: bayouranger

The thesis is: “Regardless of whether or not you [Europeans] like us [Turks], whether or not you integrate us, whether or not you want us in the European Union, our influence in Europe is growing. We are more numerous. We are younger. We are more ambitious. Our economy is growing faster. We are stronger.”

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Same method muslims are using here only this administration agrees with them.

It is going to take WWIII to defeat these people. End game.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 9:48:53 AM PDT by mardi59 (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: bayouranger

Note to Turks: Islamic, ignorant, and queer is no way to go through life.


7 posted on 03/17/2012 9:49:06 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: bayouranger

This actually made me laugh out loud. TURKEY? Gimme a break.

They wouldn’t be able to conquer anything bigger than a sandwich shop in Ankara.

TURKEY? I needed a good laugh!


8 posted on 03/17/2012 9:50:45 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are come election day.)
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To: skeeter
And honestly stating the Muslim's intentions is the best way to wake the segment of the population interested in self preservation.

True. Unfortunately the Infidels keep back pedalling and won't confront Islam. The Islamic marching orders are spelled out in the Koran and Hadiths, but the Infidels won't read them. The easy way out is to believe the Muslim terrorists are radicals and not representative of the group. By the time the problem is blatantly obvious it is to late. - Tom

9 posted on 03/17/2012 10:01:49 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: bayouranger
The whole worlds population will decline, except for a few countries in the next twenty years, yet fools say an economic recover is coming. There will be a decline, long term, in demand, not an increase. Hopefully the Muslim tendency to kill each other will win out.
10 posted on 03/17/2012 10:03:39 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: I Shall Endure

Sounds like its time for a new Crusade to me. You Germans better go back to church and start to think European or your going to be bowing to Mecca sooner than you think. South America would be a better place to get people to slave in your factories—that or Russia.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 10:14:57 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Capt. Tom

History repeats - muslims will invade, the invaded will fight back, eventually.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 10:16:20 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: I Shall Endure

That would be an affront to multiculturalism. You know..the same one that’s failed.

They should concentrate on automation of their factories rather than assimilating the Turks.


13 posted on 03/17/2012 10:19:15 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

Demographics is destiny. Parts of Western Europe will become Islamic again.


14 posted on 03/17/2012 10:21:19 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: org.whodat
The whole worlds population will decline, except for a few countries in the next twenty years,

LOL. I suggest you get better informed about the global population. According to current projections, the global population will reach eight billion by 2025–2030, and will likely reach around nine billion by 2045–2050. Alternative scenarios for 2050 range from a low of 7.4 billion to a high of more than 10.6 billion.

The US population will increase by 130 million over the next 40 years. Since 2000, the US population increased 32 million or about the current population of Canada. We have added over 110 million since 1970.

15 posted on 03/17/2012 10:22:21 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Theoria

The US is already being colonized by the Third World. The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.


16 posted on 03/17/2012 10:26:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Only if we keep letting illegal in, now read up on the number of baby boomers from after wwII that are leaving shortly.


17 posted on 03/17/2012 10:29:43 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: kabar

Sure, but by 2050, I doubt it will be the USA anymore.


18 posted on 03/17/2012 10:32:21 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: bayouranger; Capt. Tom
From today's perspective, the immigration of guest workers in the 1960s and 1970s was a gigantic mistake.

Go back a bit farther. The Germans got rid of the Jews and brought in the Moslems. One of the worst deals in history.

As Capt. Tom said, The Islamic marching orders are spelled out in the Koran and Hadiths, but the Infidels won't read them.

Just like people didn't read the Nazi marching orders spelled out in Mein Kampf.

19 posted on 03/17/2012 10:33:08 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: Wordkraft

Their issue is with the 2nd & 3rd gen turks living in Germany who have stated that they refuse to assimilate into the corrupted Infidel society that invited them in, as well as, Erdogan telling the turks in Germany NOT to assimilate as it is an insult to their national pride. Their being Turkish nation pride.

But I can see why you laughed. ;7)


20 posted on 03/17/2012 10:44:11 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

What I find rather ironic about this whole thing is that the birth rate of Turks in Turkey is absolutism plummeting - their fertility rate is only around 1.5, while the Kurdish fertility rate is far higher, around 4.2. That’s right - within a few generations, Turkey will be majority Kurdish.


21 posted on 03/17/2012 10:47:34 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: I Shall Endure

Why don’t the Germans import their cheap labor from Mexico, you ask?

That would take away votes from the Democrat party here in the US.


22 posted on 03/17/2012 10:51:45 AM PDT by snafubar
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To: bayouranger

I think something else is going on, too. The Turks got real competition from the young and eager workforce coming in from the ex-communist regimes. The Western Europeans prefer to hire people from Eastern Europe or the ex-Soviet Union states.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 10:59:37 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: org.whodat
Currently, we allow 1.2 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS in annually, which is more than twice the estimated 500,000 illegals who enter each year. And these numbers don't include the 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born annually to illegals. They are automatically US citizens. Immigration, legal and illegal, drive 75% of our population growth.

IT IS OUR LEGAL IMMIGRATION THAT IS THE MAIN PROBLEM. We are importing poverty. 57% of immigrant headed households with children are on at least one welfare program.


24 posted on 03/17/2012 10:59:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Theoria

“Demographics is destiny. Parts of Western Europe will become Islamic again.”

Try selling that thesis to the losers of the St. Barts Day massacre in 1522.

Man IS a territorial organism with a strong propensity for in-group amity and out-group enmity.


25 posted on 03/17/2012 11:07:08 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: JerseyanExile
That’s right - within a few generations, Turkey will be majority Kurdish.

CIA Factbook: Turkish 70-75%, Kurdish 18%, other minorities 7-12% (2008 est.) I don't see how that is mathmatically possible in only a few generations. Since Turkey does not record the number of Kurds separately as an ethnic group in their census figures, the exact numbers are really unknown.

26 posted on 03/17/2012 11:17:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: bayouranger

We need a new King Jan Sobieski of Poland to defeat the Turks.


27 posted on 03/17/2012 11:35:34 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: I Shall Endure
"Why don’t the Germans import their cheap labor from Mexico?"

From Mexcio?? Hell, import them from the US illegal immigrant population. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

28 posted on 03/17/2012 11:37:53 AM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: bayouranger

Hitler 2.0 coming sooner than i thought. This kid doesn’t realize it but fascism is the escape valve that europe relies on to purify the herd. wait till the welfare state collapses under its own weight. yeah pass the popcorn alright!!


29 posted on 03/17/2012 12:10:16 PM PDT by bubman
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To: bayouranger

There is no leader to stop them.


30 posted on 03/17/2012 12:25:59 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: kabar

From what I’ve read, estimates place the Kurds at become 2/5ths of the population of Turkey by 2050. So expecting them to become a majority, in, say, 3 generations (75 years) doesn’t seem all that unreasonable, especially considering that the ethnic Turkish population will rapidly begin to age over the coming decades.


31 posted on 03/17/2012 12:48:37 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: bayouranger

The Germans/Austrians are helpless to defend themselves, because they are loaded down with their Nazi past.
However, the Turks won’t find it so easy to overcome the Poles. The Poles beat them once before at the gates of Vienna.


32 posted on 03/17/2012 1:06:05 PM PDT by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: JerseyanExile

I thought that the Kurds and Turks had some friction over self determination issues.


33 posted on 03/17/2012 4:23:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: bayouranger

Indigenous Europeans are losing the battle of the bedroom - having fewer children than needed for replacement of population, while the immigrant population has a greater-than-replacement birthrate. The takeover need not be violent; just let exponential growth and decay functions operate for a few decades, and the game is over.

Likewise in the US - decades of high abortion rates and low birth rates for the indigenous population, combined with both immigration and high birth rates among immigrants, translates into replacement of indigenous with immigrant residents.


34 posted on 03/17/2012 6:43:45 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Mike Darancette

They do, which is why Kurds becoming a majority, in, say, the military, let alone as part of the general population would be so disastrous for Turkey. The Kurds have been fighting the Turks for independence on-again off-again for centuries, and the current conflict in eastern Turkey has been going on for more then three decades and claimed tens of thousands of lives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Kurdish_uprisings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish%E2%80%93Turkish_conflict


35 posted on 03/17/2012 7:50:31 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

The Kurds seem to look a bit different than the Turks.


36 posted on 03/17/2012 8:54:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Wordkraft

Ever heard of the Ottoman Empire? It was almost as big as Europe...and included a significant portion of Europe.


37 posted on 03/18/2012 9:40:36 AM PDT by ravager
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To: Wordkraft; ravager

38 posted on 03/18/2012 11:57:22 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: GladesGuru

>> Note to Turks: Islamic, ignorant, and queer

You’re the guru of my toilet.


39 posted on 03/20/2012 5:33:10 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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To: a_Turk

“Whirlin’ whirlin, whirlin,
keep those myths a swirlin’”

;-)


40 posted on 03/20/2012 9:17:47 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: bayouranger

Seriously. Pizzing off the Germans is such a brilliant idea. And if the SHTF, I don’t think America will care to intervene this time even if we could afford to...


41 posted on 03/21/2012 1:42:42 AM PDT by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: reg45

I’d prefer Charles “The Hammer” Martel, but either would suffice...


42 posted on 03/21/2012 1:52:22 AM PDT by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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