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What If Oil and Natural Gas Are Renewable Resources?
The American Thinker ^ | March 18, 2012 | Greg Lewis

Posted on 03/18/2012 12:46:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

....The evidence is mounting that not only do we have more than a century's worth of recoverable oil in the United States alone (even if there is a limit to the earth's oil supply), but that we also actually have a limitless supply of Texas tea because oil is in fact a renewable resource that is being constantly created deep under the earth's surface and which rises upward, where microscopic organisms that thrive in the intense pressure and heat miles below us interact with and alter it.

In other words, we have an unending supply of oil, some of which is constantly migrating upward from the depths at which it is created to refill existing oil deposits, and much more of which remains far below the surface. This oil can be recovered using existing technology.

....Russian technology was developed in the 1970s to test the theory by drilling as deep as 40,000 feet into the earth. As a result, Russia was the first nation to begin to understand and exploit these renewable oil reserves, and today their oil industry is thriving.

The political implications for Barack Obama and the radical environmentalist base he panders to with his corrupt "renewable" energy policy are profound. First, as we've seen, the president continually misrepresents the amount of recoverable oil available to us. His assertion that we have "only two percent of the world's oil reserves" available to us is simply a lie, as Susan Duclos documents in this piece. We're awash in oil reserves, and it's up to our political candidates to expose Obama's baseless fabrications about our energy reserves.

Beyond that, most Americans have digested the fact that the entire environmentalist rationale for pursuing "green energy" technology is built on fabricated global warming....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abiogenic; abiogenichydrocarbon; anwr; cassini; deepearthoil; deeplife; economy; energy; huygens; jobs; johnhofmeister; keystonexl; nationalsecurity; oil; opec; saturn; thomasgold; titan
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To: Figment

I can show you pumps still in place that are pure orange from rust and probably haven’t moved in my lifetime. The best part is that we won’t even have to drive an hour outside of the metroplex to see them.


101 posted on 03/18/2012 4:22:55 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump


102 posted on 03/18/2012 4:24:32 PM PDT by bubman
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To: Sequoyah101
The "crust" has been pretty jumbled up over the last 4 billion years. Should be hydrocarbons at just about every layer in every large geologic block.

Remember the effort by the Russians to drill the deepest hole in the world? That took place not far from Sweden over in Nikel Oblast ~ right near the Pechanga river.

Most of that territory consists of ancient oceanic crust turned 90 degrees revealing the layers of Banded Iron Formations ~ making it one of the world's greatest sources of high quality iron ore (stretches all through the North from Russia into Sweden). Right there East of the Norwegian border there's Nikel, and the hole and the degraded remains of a very large Nickel-Iron Meteorite.

Anyway, it turned out to be a stupid idea to drill that hole in that area even though the Mohorovičić discontinuity is at it's shallowest (for a surface site) in that area. They gave up after more than a decade of drilling ~ and finding nothing.

Bet when that sucker hit that area and tipped over the banded iron formations it cracked the "crust" ~ allowing some upward movement of mantle material into the crust.

I am much more interested in the residual gold flour in that nickel iron meteorite. Does anyone have any idea if that was found yet? And was that iron pyrite or magnetite? Makes a difference in how much gold you can derive.

103 posted on 03/18/2012 4:26:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Moonman62

“There are microfossils in crude oil that indicate its biological origin.”

Microbes are found there, but that in no way proves they are the source of it’s origin. Explain to us the causality. There is none. There is not a single experiment or chemical equation, which explains how ANY microbe can take dead organic matter, and convert it into pertoleum.


104 posted on 03/18/2012 4:26:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: crusty old prospector

Free Republic is highly unique when it comes to science. You have FReepers who are very well versed in the physical sciences and FReepers who completely ignorant on the subject. For the life of me, I can’t figure why the middle of the curve isn’t represented here.


105 posted on 03/18/2012 4:27:11 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With methane as a major product of fracking,what I`d like to see is a stop to the turning of our food into fuel! These leftist Einsteins do realize methane can be turned into methanol and with a little more work, into ethanol via conversion to ethane? Why the hell would anyone want to drive on our grain (food) supply?


106 posted on 03/18/2012 4:27:34 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

save & listen


107 posted on 03/18/2012 4:42:59 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: DesertRhino

“There is not a single experiment or chemical equation, which explains how ANY microbe can take dead organic matter, and convert it into pertoleum.”

Who’s saying it does?


108 posted on 03/18/2012 4:47:56 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How great to think it it’s renewable, like trees.

It was the same eviormenatists that said you can't cut the trees. I assume they knew that other trees would never replace the trees that were cut.

They destroyed the timber industry in the Northwestern US.

109 posted on 03/18/2012 5:37:21 PM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Brilliant

I’m sorry I bothered.


110 posted on 03/18/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There are hydrocarbons elsewhere in the solar system; and presumably no Dinosaurs. So the it’s not unreasonable at all to question where those present on our own planet came from - and whether or not they’re still being generated via the same process.


111 posted on 03/18/2012 6:19:23 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: bopdowah

I’ll answer it. Because the earth is like a large refinery. It takes a lot of heat over a long period of time for the organic matter to be cooked until it converts into crude oil. It usually generated between depths of 7,000 and 11,000’ feet, depending on the geothermal gradient of the basin. Below that, most of the time it becomes natural gas.


112 posted on 03/18/2012 6:22:19 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: DManA

It is but the process is very slow. Then, the oil has to migrate from the source rock to a reservoir in order to become what we call a field.


113 posted on 03/18/2012 6:24:01 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Dusty Road
Finally, some who can speak with authority on the subject.

Tell the assembled masses, what evidence is there for the perpetual creation of oil....if any..

114 posted on 03/18/2012 6:27:11 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Fee

Make that about 99.9%, at least those who are in the business of finding it and not looking for grant money at a university.


115 posted on 03/18/2012 6:27:18 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Oil is not thermally stable below around 11,000’ in most basins. In some cooler ones like the Gulf of Mexico and Nigeria, you can find it down to 20,000’ but it is a rarity. It breaks down into natural gas and eventually elemental carbon around 30,000’. There have been many wells drilled all over the world and all accumulations of oil have been found in basins. Oil and heat, say with vulcanism and plate collision zones, don’t mix. Gold was a moron out for publicity and grant money. Ask any serious geochemist.


116 posted on 03/18/2012 6:34:15 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Melas; Dusty Road

You are correct. Mea culpa. However, I have friends and former coworkers telling me that there are numerous active drilling rigs in the Permian Basin. There would be a few on Otero Mesa right now, if it weren’t for a fella’ named Bill Richardson


117 posted on 03/18/2012 6:41:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SunkenCiv

Great stuff. Thanks.


118 posted on 03/18/2012 6:42:38 PM PDT by Obadiah (We are all Brietbarts now.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

May I answer a question with a question? What happens when after several hundred million wind mills are found to actually slow the earths’ orbit or the wind flows? Some young film student could have a field day with that one. @4 hour day? Not anymore. See what I mean? LOL


119 posted on 03/18/2012 8:20:02 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve agreed with this theory ever since I read about the Soviet studies.

Coal IS made from old plants, same as peat. Coal is a true fossil fuel.

Now, I realize the Earth has gone through some cataclysmic gyrations over the past few million years. Continents shift and stuff gets buried, fair enough. But how did ENORMOUS beds of rotting plant material end up a MILE or more underground with a MILE of water on top of it? That just doesn’t make sense.

The idea that crude oil seeps up from below, through some bacterial or other process, makes much more sense. Look at those “black smoker” things at the bottom of the ocean!

Learn how to replicate the process in the lab and we’ve got energy security for the rest of human existence.


120 posted on 03/18/2012 8:21:55 PM PDT by DNME (SARAH PALIN, please pick up any white courtesy phone.)
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To: crusty old prospector

I am ignorant. I’m just trying to navigate all of the misinformation out there. I can’t count on the MSM to actually tell the truth about anything, so everything becomes suspect to me.

So getting back to your knowledge that oil breaks down into carbon deeper than 30,000 feet.

Can you please answer my obvious question since I just referred to the deep oil wells.

The Russians claim they have 310 super deep oil wells that are producing. Are they lying about that? If so, where is the oil coming from that they are claiming is coming from those wells?

Is it a lie that Russia now produces more oil than Saudi Arabia?

If it is true, and if the Siberian oil finds are not super deep wells, then did the Russians just neglect this easy to get oil? Why did they wait until recently to tap these fields if they are not super deep wells?

Thanks you. I’m just trying to get to the truth here. There is constant misinformation whether from ignorant people like me, or from people who have old outdated information, or from people who refuse to advance in knowledge. I’m just trying to weed through the various sources of all above. Even brilliant petrochemical engineers with decades of experience can be late to the party when new truths come up against their decades of contrary experience, so I am just trying to find out why the Russians are lying about their claim of 310 deep wells and why the Russians are now producing so much oil.

Thank you.


121 posted on 03/18/2012 8:53:16 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: crusty old prospector

By the way, you obviously know your stuff so I appreciate the education. Thank you.


122 posted on 03/18/2012 8:54:01 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Obadiah

My pleasure, and thanks for the kind remarks!


123 posted on 03/18/2012 9:53:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: elkfersupper
“I have friends and former coworkers telling me that there are numerous active drilling rigs in the Permian Basin.”

That's almost an under statement, just north of town there is over 50 rigs running in about a 40 square mile area. We drilled the first one up there on 8 sections we already owned, tried to keep it quiet but that's impossible. These wells are coming in at 400+ BPD, they level of to about 60 after 6 months. We're going to drill 28 more but keeping a rig for the whole package is impossible. All these are around 8500 to 8700 ft with total costs of about 2 million per. There not a place to be rented for 50 miles with all the activity going on.

124 posted on 03/19/2012 2:06:42 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
“The Russians claim they have 310 super deep oil wells that are producing. Are they lying about that? If so, where is the oil coming from that they are claiming is coming from those wells?”

I won't say their lying but until their drilling logs are open for scrutiny I tend not to believe them. I do know of some wells that Exxon is drilling in Russia that total over 38,000 ft in vertical and lateral length but these are all offshore wells, in the Chayvo resevoir.

125 posted on 03/19/2012 2:35:41 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: mountn man

Exactly.

The “Fossil Fuel Theorists” have an obligation to explain what all that carbon was doing on the surface in the first place, how it got so deep in the earth without becoming CO2 again, and to describe the world with those concentrations of CO2.


126 posted on 03/19/2012 3:47:26 AM PDT by motor_racer (Pete, do you ever get tired, of the driving?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I have to plead ignorance on what is going on in Russia. I do believe they are now the #1 producer of oil in the world. I googled super deep Russia oil wells and I all I got was anti-Zionist peak oil scams. Much of their oil is heavy as in the Black Sea area and as with Canada (hint, hint Keystone XL pipeline), they are finding ways to make it commercial. They have plenty of reserves but lacked technology to produce it. I believe most of their oil is sold to Europe. By the way, most of our imports come from Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela, and Russia. OPEC oil goes to the Far East and Europe. Russia does not give out much information about production and reserves like the US does so it is hard to find out what they mean by Super Deep.


127 posted on 03/19/2012 6:14:47 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is not only renewable...it is organic.


128 posted on 03/19/2012 6:18:34 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: RobbyS

So if we want to ask the question: is there life on Mars, we shall have not to scratch the surface but drill beneath to see if there is life now there.”

Drill, baby, drill!


129 posted on 03/19/2012 6:25:51 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Gold’s idea makes sense. Aren’t the giant planets made up of the stuff?


130 posted on 03/19/2012 5:53:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: All
These leftist Einsteins do realize methane can be turned into methanol and with a little more work, into ethanol via conversion to ethane

Everybody drink!

131 posted on 03/19/2012 9:21:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Deep-ocean vents are a source of oil and gas (evidence of abiogenic hydrocarbons)

The keyword is abiogenichydrocarbon. There's no space and no plural to fit the 20 character limit.

132 posted on 04/07/2012 9:37:56 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Big BUMP for a BIG word!


133 posted on 04/07/2012 9:46:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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