Posted on 03/19/2012 11:17:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz
What happened? Obama and his advisers have cast the collapse of the talks as a republican failure. Boehner, unable to deliver, stepped away from the deal, simple as that.
But interviews with most of the central players in those talks— some ofwhomwere granted anonymity to speak about the secret negotiations — as well as a review of meeting notes, e-mails and the negotiating proposals that changed hands, offer a more complicated picture of the collapse. Obama, nervous about how to defend the emerging agreement to his own democratic base, upped the ante in a way that made it more difficult for Boehner— already facing long odds — to sell it to his party. Eventually, the president tried to put the original framework back in play, but by then it was too late. The moment of making history had passed.
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In this case, I cut the boys slack, because it was clear they were calling the bluff.
Hooah.
Thanks. I’ve been listening to Rush discuss this all afternoon.
The Democrats leaked the story to the Post (and NYT).
Why?
Because there will be another debt limit fight coming up before the election!
This is because of the Payroll tax "cut" the Dems and Obama pushed through. This is increasing the deficit beyond the value calculated to last until the election is over.
When the debt limit issue comes up again, the Dems will insist on the Repubs raising taxes and will use this as the bludgeon - "see, they were willing to increase taxes last time, ..."
Brilliant on your part.
Good catch. That could very well be the plan.
Thank you but I can’t claim credit. MissesBush posted it earlier.
I love you anyway.
No, they were going to close loopholes, not raise tax rates. They were clear about that. From the article:
Another key caveat: Much of the $800 billion would have to come from overhauling the tax code — not from higher tax rates. The Republicans believed lower rates and a simpler code
Agreed. However, I don't think it will work with independent voters. A fight over raising the debt limit during October will bode very poorly for all incumbents, particularly POTUS.
I could be wrong, but I think the tsunami will hit the last weekend before the vote, just as it did against Carter. Millions of voters will ask themselves, "do I really want another 4 years of Obama, and all that entails?
After a summer of $4+ gas, high inflation on food and other staples, I think the answer will be a resounding NO!
Carney is a very talented spin artist, especially compared to Gibbs. I hate the guy's guts, but I respect his ability immensely.
The news in this is not Obama’s actions, it is that the WaPo wrote about. Obama was acting in standard community activist negotiating fashion.
Either that or “gas prices and a deteriorating world security situation are going to savage Barry so badly over the next few months, we here at Media House have to assist our brothers in the Democrat Party with kicking him to the curb before it’s too late.”
I was surprised there wasn’t more talk and noise about this at the time.....even from conservatives. Maybe they were embarrassed about Boehner agreeing to any taxes and preferred that the deal sink.
Carney and Gibbs are/were temedulously aided by a syncophantic press pool including Tapper. Tapper is seen from a mile away and waits for Carney/Gibbs to “finish”.
I’m pretty impressed with the level of analytics exhibited by the freepers comments in this thread. It’s like the old days, when cogency and good thinkers were abundant. Perhaps the nature of this thread drives away the more frivilous freepers.....
..... you know, like that detestable Lazamataz.
Their fixed it :-)..
There are plenty of threads for frivolous Freepers...we're doing hugh and series work here.
You are correct. If I had any sense at all, I’d hijack this thread to complain about either contraceptives or abortion.
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