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The Case for Gay Acceptance in the Catholic Church (Mega Hurl Kennedy alert)
The Atlantic ^ | March 28, 2012 | Kathleen Kennedy Townsend

Posted on 03/28/2012 12:51:21 PM PDT by C19fan

On St. Patrick's Day I had the pleasure of speaking to about 350 Catholics who gathered together to attend a conference put on by New Ways Ministry, which is an effort to support the LGBT community in the Catholic Church. The women and men I spoke to included nuns and priests, children who had come out and parents who wanted to be supportive. Two female priests gave me special blessing and I left the meeting inspired by the devotion of those who attended.

New Ways Ministry has a critical mission, since changing the Church will help those who suffer from ill treatment not only here in the United States but around the world, where the Church has so much clout. The Church has millions of members in Africa and South America, where being gay or lesbian can lead to a death sentence.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; cino; gays; homosexualagenda; kennedy
I remember one time when Catholic families had a portrait of JFK in the house. I think Catholics made a deal with the devil to get the "Catholic" Kennedy elected and now the devil is using the Kennedy scion as payback. This article is nothing but a modern version of the Black Legend.
1 posted on 03/28/2012 12:51:29 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

They are accepted by the Catholic Church. They are welcome to come to Mass anytime.

Just don’t expect your behavior to be accepted.
Hate the sin, love the sinner.


3 posted on 03/28/2012 12:56:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

Those with this inclination are and have always been “included” in the Church. That does not mean that they are not called, as all Catholics are, to accept and practice the moral teachings of the Church, which for homosexuals involves the call to chastity. Any ministry to those who suffer with this inclination, such as New Ways ministry, that does not involve and support the call to chastity, is not Catholic in any authentic sense.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 12:57:00 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: C19fan

Theological acceptance or nonacceptance of homosexual conduct has virtually nothing to do with the issue of humane treatment of homosexual people. But as always LIEberals boldly conflate the issues and try to weary conservatives who dare to insist on making logical distinctions.


5 posted on 03/28/2012 12:57:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: C19fan

John Kennedy was pro-life. All the democrats back then were pro-life, including Teddy Kennedy. They also believed like most Americans that homosexuality was a sin against God and you were supposed to love the sinner but hate the sin. Teddy is the one that sold his soul to the devil when be became pro-death to get the liberal, radical pro-abort, free-love radical feminist vote back in the late 60s and early 70s. They are all part of the party of death now, the democrats.


6 posted on 03/28/2012 12:58:08 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: C19fan

“Two female priests gave me special blessing and....”

They must have been Anglican Catholic priests. There are no female priests in the Roman Catholic church.


8 posted on 03/28/2012 1:00:25 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Third sentence. End of story. There are no female priests.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 1:00:48 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: C19fan

Why do these people have the pathetic need to identify themselves as Catholic? If they are doing it to confuse and corrupt the faithful, then the Bishops have a responsibility to formally excommunicate these people who deliberately teach heresy.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 1:00:55 PM PDT by allendale
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To: C19fan
“the LGBT community in the Catholic Church”

This is simply stupid. The Catholic church and the bible teach that homosexuality is sinful. The bible says homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God.

These people are pursuing a political agenda. They are trying to use homosexuality to infiltrate and distort the Church's teachings.

These people are not Catholics. They are not a Catholic community. Their values are self-gratification and self-indulgence. Our values are stronger and deeper.

11 posted on 03/28/2012 1:01:07 PM PDT by detective
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To: C19fan

This dimbulb left a meeting, but there were NO Catholics there. Female priests? LMAO! That’s a bit like “kosher pork”;)


12 posted on 03/28/2012 1:01:29 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: forgotten man

They are probably women who claim to be “priests”. By that act they self ex-communicated.


14 posted on 03/28/2012 1:01:49 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Oh had Old Man Kennedy been sterile.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 1:01:55 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey "Unifier" and MSM: Demand Spike Lee apologize.)
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To: C19fan
"Suppose God is gay."

Go poll test that question door to door in Iran Kathleen.

17 posted on 03/28/2012 1:05:59 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: C19fan

Senator Joe McCarthy would not be happy with his goddaughter.


18 posted on 03/28/2012 1:06:48 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: C19fan

The Catholic Church *has* a ministry for homosexuals, which teaches celebacy (!!!).

http://www.couragerc.net/

I’m sure that blessing by the 2 wymmin “priests” was vewy *special*.


19 posted on 03/28/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: C19fan
Two female priests gave me special blessing...

No mention, though, of the special blessing she got from Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

20 posted on 03/28/2012 1:09:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: massgopguy

DUH sorry how could I have missed that. Definitely not supported in the Roman Catholic church, though that’s what they look to be claiming to be part of.


21 posted on 03/28/2012 1:09:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Unam Sanctam

But, but the moral teaching of the Church are not affirming of the biological genetic inherent same sex attraction that must be acted upon to authenticate the true selfhood of homosexual identity which you know Jesus never said anything about. They were born this way doncha know? Sexual identity is unchangeable and it is oppressive and judgmental to inflict heterosexism as the norm on others who do not share that paradigm of sexuality.

Oh by the way don’t confuse sexuality with gender which is a cultural construct and is mutable and depends on how a person envisions their gender identity. So you can have a lesbian who is trapped in a man’s body.

Did I do that right? Did I get all the squishy stuff right? I am ready for Academia.

God calls all of us to chastity but those who are unmarried are called to celibacy as well.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 1:14:00 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: forgotten man

It was special all right.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 1:14:44 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: C19fan

The Catholic Church *has* a ministry for homosexuals, which teaches celebacy (!!!).

http://www.couragerc.net/

I’m sure that blessing by the 2 wymmin “priests” was vewy *special*.


24 posted on 03/28/2012 1:16:40 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They are accepted by the Catholic Church. They are welcome to come to Mass anytime.

Just don’t expect your behavior to be accepted.
Hate the sin, love the sinner.

You are 100% correct.

A brief skimming, if not full review, of the encyclical on this subject would tell anyone the same thing.

What makes the Kennedys think that they can hold great governmental positions after graduating from superior colleges and universities and not read a basic Church document?

Do your homework, lady.


25 posted on 03/28/2012 1:18:10 PM PDT by stanne
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To: C19fan

The lack of Biblical scholarship evident in her ravings is so obvious it is a wonder any sensible person pays the least regard to them.

Oh wait, they don’t.


26 posted on 03/28/2012 1:20:52 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: C19fan
The Church has millions of members in Africa and South America, where being gay or lesbian can lead to a death sentence.

And the answer is to preach Christ. Not gayism.

And, by the way, a death sentence at the hands of whom? Care to go there?

Preach Christ. Thats the answer. What to do about church members who are gay? Preach Christ. What to do about the people who would harm them, or the people whom they might harm? Preach Christ. What about people who aren't church members? Preach Christ. Thats the mission. Do that and the rest resolves itself.

27 posted on 03/28/2012 1:21:45 PM PDT by marron
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To: lastchance

They are not born that way.

The stuff about gender is cr@p. In this Brave New Feminazi World, some of the ancient hard wiring still makes itself known. Human nature never changes.


28 posted on 03/28/2012 1:22:47 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
The Catholic Church *has* a ministry for homosexuals, which teaches celebacy(sic) (!!!).

Courage advocates chastity for homosexuals not celibacy since homosexuals cannot get married.

29 posted on 03/28/2012 1:26:37 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: C19fan
Two female priests gave me special blessing and I left the meeting inspired by the devotion of those who attended.

There are NO SUCH things as "female priests" in the Catholic Church! Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is a liar!

30 posted on 03/28/2012 1:30:55 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I e-mailed Townsend and told that there are no female priests, unless she intends for her next column to be “Why Jesus Was Wrong”.


31 posted on 03/28/2012 1:33:14 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: C19fan

What I don’t understand is why these folks want to be Catholics. Why don’t they just join the Episcopal Church? Pretty much the same formula at services, a very similar liturgy, better music and usually better architecture. And they can all be happily gay together.


32 posted on 03/28/2012 1:44:55 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: C19fan

This former Catholic watched as the churches around him (in Maryland) succumbed to Satan, and we stopped going around the mid 90s. Half of the lay people are homo queers who have no business being there, except to molest boys and infest the HOLY teachings with FILTH. CINO business men regularly donate to “Catholic” O’Malley, who recently allowed homo “marriage” here. MOVING SOUTH SHORTLY


33 posted on 03/28/2012 1:46:18 PM PDT by godgunsglory59
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To: stanne

Catholics such as Ms. Kennedy are well aware of Church teachings on these matters.

Out of pride and vanity however, they believe they know better than the ancient Church and believe that their rejection of her teachings and the propagation of their own false and fatal doctrines is doing what is right.

Of course, they are wrong.


34 posted on 03/28/2012 1:46:39 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: C19fan
All kinds of sinners are accepted in the Catholic Church on one condition--check your sins at the door.

When you tell us that your sins really aren't sins but just part of your lifestyle, you're not welcome. Sorry.
35 posted on 03/28/2012 1:47:16 PM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
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To: C19fan

I smell sulphur.


36 posted on 03/28/2012 2:40:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just like insisting that we uphold immigration laws has nothing to do with the humane or inhumane treatment of illegals.

Nobody wants to see any illegal immigrant harmed or abused.
We just want them to obey the law and go home. And I’m sick of the media implying that if we question illegals or homosexuals in any way it’s the same thing as taking a bullwhip to them.


37 posted on 03/28/2012 2:48:43 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Lauren BaRecall

I thought the extreme sarcasm would have shone through the BS I posted.


38 posted on 03/28/2012 2:58:19 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Watch that talk about bullwhips. They might change their mind and decide they like it.


39 posted on 03/28/2012 3:47:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Jvette

They are not aware of the contents of the Papal documents.

But you point out the reasons why.


40 posted on 03/28/2012 5:10:12 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They are accepted by the Catholic Church. They are welcome to come to Mass anytime.

Just don’t expect your behavior to be accepted.
Hate the sin, love the sinner.


This Catholic just announced his divorce to priest and friends among parishioners. And I’ve never received more love and support.


41 posted on 03/28/2012 6:36:39 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Jvette

They are not aware of the contents of the Papal documents.

But you point out the reasons why.


42 posted on 03/28/2012 7:54:53 PM PDT by stanne
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43 posted on 03/28/2012 7:57:52 PM PDT by narses
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To: NKP_Vet

Ted Kennedy’s crucial role in defeating Marriage Amendment in Massachusetts Legislature

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09c/kennedy/index.html


44 posted on 03/28/2012 8:23:39 PM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts: If they had just kept hanging witches a bit longer...........)
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To: Frank_2001

Female priest is like saying male priestess. At least the Wiccans aren’t afraid to use the correct term. These nutbars can’t even bring themselves to say what they would be if the Church ever would allow it. Which it won’t. Ever.

Freegards


45 posted on 03/28/2012 8:54:33 PM PDT by Ransomed
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