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DISHONORABLE FACEBOOKING? Off-Duty Marine facing discharge over Anti-Obama facebook posts
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Posted on 04/07/2012 5:23:10 AM PDT by kindred

While off-duty, a Marine Sergeant by the name of Gary Stein has been somewhat open about his dislike for Barack Obama. In particular, he said that he would not obey an unlawful order and gave the example of being ordered to confiscate the guns of American citizens.

Gary Kreep, president of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) is making a last ditch effort to help prevent the Marines from giving Stein what amounts to a dishonorable discharge on April 5th.

“This is truly an urgent situation,” Kreep says. “The Marine Corps is moving at blistering speed to make an example of Sergeant Stein. They will throw him out of the Marines this Thursday, unless we can persuade a U. S. District Court Judge to intervene. AND, they want to remove him from the Corps under 'less than honorable' circumstances, a finding normally reserved for criminals!”

As for Stein's facebook posts being made known to Department of Defense officials, Kreep points to recent reports that the Obama administration is closely monitoring social network sites. News of these tactics even roused Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren (link below).

Kreep seems to think it quite possible that these tactics may have been used to single out Stein. “I imagine that one of the Obama campaign's "AttackWatch" staff members, using the high-tech computer monitoring systems that the Obama Administration employs to track criticism of Barack Obama on the social media, came across the website and reported back to the White House.


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To: kindred
I'm sorry, and as much as I hate to admit it but Marine Sergeant Gary Stein was wrong. Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) prohibits disloyal statements toward a superior (either enlisted or officer) and anything to the prejudice of good order. The part of “Good Order and Discipline” in the military is first and foremost, always. You don't know how many times I had to bite my tongue during the Carter and Clinton presidencies, but I made my voice heard in the ballot box.
21 posted on 04/07/2012 6:23:29 AM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: BigCinBigD
The good Sgt should have kept his mouth shut and stayed in place where he could do the most good if the time comes.

The time came and went.

22 posted on 04/07/2012 6:26:27 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: kindred

I’m glad to see that Gary Kreep is involved. He was active in the Young Americans for Freedom in the 1970’s and 1980’s.


23 posted on 04/07/2012 6:29:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: UCANSEE2

“Also hard to argue that if it had been a Republican President’s face on a jackass, he would even have been brought up on charges.”

Wrong. When GWB ws President, we had a few enlisted who didn’t want to deploy because GWB was ‘selected, not elected’. Facing jail time, they deployed. And everyone was reminded that you do NOT make political statements while in uniform, or an civilian clothes if you have identified yourself as military.


24 posted on 04/07/2012 6:54:17 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Texas Fossil
He swore an allegiance to uphold the Constitution. As did Obozo.

but the congress who should impeach the Messiah for trashing the constitution, does not hold zer0bama’s feet to the fire as they should...cowards all.

25 posted on 04/07/2012 7:02:22 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kindred

“he said that he would not obey an unlawful order and gave the example of being ordered to confiscate the guns of American citizens.” ......................................... LOL, do you really think he is alone in those thoughts? He is expressing his thoughts outwardly where others remain silent. We can not sanction that kind of thoughts in this current regime. Das ist verboten! Geeez, you have to even watch out if you try to defend yourself from criminals these days. Why do I feel that the Thought Police are out there, and they work hand in hand with the Propagandists?


26 posted on 04/07/2012 7:04:46 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: kindred

27 posted on 04/07/2012 7:16:58 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: kindred
“While off-duty”, EXCUSE ME? I believe he was on ACTIVE DUTY in the Marine Corps. Active duty is 24/7, 365. There is no such thing as “off duty”.

I can't stand that POS Obama, but he is the commander in chief, legitimate or not. This Marine knew better, he will have to accept the consequences.

28 posted on 04/07/2012 7:17:37 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
I can't stand that POS Obama, but he is the commander in chief, legitimate or not. This Marine knew better, he will have to accept the consequences.

This.

The FReepers making the moronic claim that he had a duty to "uphold the constitution" are advocating chaos.

What they're saying is that any-ol' enlisted guy can simply throw discipline and the UCMJ to the wind if he decides that someone or something in their chain of command is unconstitutional.

Dumbasses.

29 posted on 04/07/2012 7:55:20 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: kindred

If he was specifically told to “STFU” about his personal politics, but did so anyway, he should simply face administrative punishment. A less than honorable discharge is way over the top.


30 posted on 04/07/2012 8:16:11 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Traveler59

Yup.. and the ONLY time I mentioned anything political, was the night I was in the NCO club and Clinton won his first term election... I told my friends that I was NOT re-enlisting...


31 posted on 04/07/2012 8:19:00 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Traveler59

Oh, forgot to mention HOW I said it; “I’m not going to be under the command of a fag loving, pot smoking, draft dodging pussyjerk”. ;)


32 posted on 04/07/2012 8:21:10 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: faucetman; .30Carbine

40 years ago, I’d have agreed with you. But not today, not with our government in the hands of a mad man. I agree with .30Carbine above.

Loyalty goes both ways.


33 posted on 04/07/2012 8:31:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kindred

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Who am I to speak and by what authority do I do so?
•It is each persons constitutional ‘duty’ to remove a repressive government...the present one qualifies.
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34 posted on 04/07/2012 8:34:44 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: kindred

Also see: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2868427/posts


35 posted on 04/07/2012 8:36:37 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: SF_Redux

Drake’s message to military.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7xCtfQfQx4


36 posted on 04/07/2012 8:39:36 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: kindred

Soldiers dont have those rights. You cannot publicly go negative on your chain of command and keep your job at the same time.


37 posted on 04/07/2012 8:44:47 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: combat_boots
Check out this video on YouTube:

U.S. Marine Cloy Richards - Iraq Veterans Against the War

38 posted on 04/07/2012 8:50:21 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: patriot08

No, it isnt coming to this. It has always been the rule. If you criticize the CIC while in the military, you are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


39 posted on 04/07/2012 8:52:58 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Teacher317

Im sure some of them were discharged, if they were found out.


40 posted on 04/07/2012 8:54:09 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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