Skip to comments.Sources: George Zimmerman Could Be Arrested Soon; Grand Jury Won't Get Trayvon Martin Case
Posted on 04/09/2012 1:46:42 PM PDT by lbryce
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There is not a all White jury with to balls to acquit Zimmerman in the political climate of today.
They can arrest .... but can they indict without a grand jury?
If the alternative to the ordeal of trial is to simply live under a cloud of suspicion, I’d say you’re right.
But in this case, the alternative is to either get lynched or be forced to leave the country. The ordeal of trial is preferable, both to Mr. Zimmmerman and to society.
So, the rule of law is to capitulate to the rule of the mob. Good for society.
This is what I am thinking too sadly.
The mob will not accept a verdict of innocent. There is no way to "win" by subverting the legal process to put on a show that ends in innocence.
So, either the mob is superior, or the state (and its rule of law) is. Might as well get the difference of conclusion out in the open sooner. If the evidence cannot support a finding of unjustified use of deadly force, then the charge should not be brought.
See this case for what happens when mob rule is submitted to.
The Scottsboro Boys were nine black teenage boys accused of rape in Alabama in 1931. The landmark set of legal cases from this incident dealt with racism and the right to a fair trial. The case includes a frameup, all-white jury, rushed trials, an attempted lynching, angry mob, and miscarriage of justice.
Kind of strange how a strong vocal minority within the black community is acting simular to the white racist during Jiim Crow era (likely a democrat BTW).
Forget about the facts, put on a show trail, and then lynch this cracker!
No, the rule is to rebut the mob, not capitulate to it. A trial is the opposite of what they want.
The last time this occurred, during the Crown Heights pogrom, a grand jury refused to indict the driver in the fatal accident. As a result, the evidence remained sealed, and the race-baiters kept on making the same heinous accusations.
Same thing happened in the Tawana Brawley case. Grand jury refused to indict, and the testimony did not become known until the slander trial years later.
A public trial would bring all the testimony out in the open, and the usual suspects would be sitting in the front rows, behaving like boors and thugs both in and outside the courtroom, for all to see. Thus, Fat Al and Jesse Johnson will be quickly discredited, and Spike Lee will think twice the next time he offers a bounty on someone’s head, and Mr. Zimmerman can get on with his life, maybe suing NBC into the bargain.
I would acquit.....and I carry 24/7.
The “mob” might or might not. But if the evidence is publicly given in a court of law and contradicts the wild allegations and doctored recordings, the mob’s hangers on will melt. That’s why there are courts of law in the first place, so that society can decide an issue based on facts, reason and evidence, rather than mobs and feuding clans based on blood loyalty, hysteria and rabble rousing.
The mob is clamoring for a trial.
But it is contrary to the rule of law to put known innocent / justified people on trial.
-- A public trial would bring all the testimony out in the open, and the usual suspects would be sitting in the front rows, behaving like boors and thugs both in and outside the courtroom, for all to see. --
The testimony can come out already, once the investigation goes inactive. The press isn't going to show it, because it cuts against the narrative.
Anyway, we can disagree respectfully. I've had my say.
This is not 1931, and the jury pool in central Florida is not all black. The prosecutor in this case is a white Southern Republican. I lived in central Florida (Casselberry in Seminole Co.) for a few years. It’s a conservative area with a lot of juvenile crime, and tough law enforcement. The only similarity with the Scottsboro case is an angry mob, neither the first nor the last such aggregation of boobs. A trial will cause the professional rabble rousers to form circle jerks of conspiracy mongers, who will insist that the witnesses were bribed until they are old and gray.
There is still an open question as to who started the physical altercation (or rather, to put it in Florida statutory terms, whether Zimmerman "provoked" the use of force against himself), as well as several questions that follow that one. There's evidence on both sides, but it's far from resolved.
Nope. Fear of being called racist.
The mob is always clamoring for something, and mortified if they get what they clamored for. So they invent some new grievance to clamor about. As soon as the trial is underway, they’ll be claiming Ms. Corey is a racist who’s trying to paper over the death of a brutha with perjured testimony. The very last thing that a mob ever wants, especially one incited by Fat Al and Co., is what they claim they want in the clamor du jour. Next they’ll demand that the prosecution be taken over by the federal government, based on the bogus tape that NBC aired, bogus claims that Corey’s a racist, etc. Once the evidence is a matter of public record, however, a newly vindicated Zimmerman can sue Fat Al, Spike Lee and NBC, and I hope he gets awarded punitive damages in eight figure amounts against each.
That only applies to Federal prosecutions, not state cases. That part of the Fifth Amendment has not been "incorporated" against the states through the Fourteenth Amendment.
Anyway, he’s not “known” to be innocent. The witnesses have not been heard except in the media, thanks to a leak emanating from the prosecutor’s office. They could be lying. They could have misinterpreted what they saw. The prosecutor who leaked their alleged statements could be lying. Until there’s been a trial with an opportunity to cross-examine them, they are an unknown quantity that we prefer to believe and others prefer to disbelieve.
I just posted it exactly the way it appeared on the TV station web site.
The establishment needs Zim to be charged so the race war will NOT start- -or at least will be delayed until after the trial.
Let me guess, one's name is Anonymous and the other is his brother named Undisclosed.......
No such "order" was given.
I’m not going to be laughing...
Won’t argue with that. That’s all they’ve got going for themselves. Take that away from the MSM and they’ve got nothing.
I absolutely believe it will be reviewed by a Grand Jury.
Ive postulated that the reason they mention that no grand jury is set to to be presented with any evidence not because of the scarcity of any felonious evidence but simply a ruse in an effort by blacks, left-wing liberals to mislead people into believing Zimmerman has not committed any crime but with time will absolutely present the case to a grand jury against Zimmerman in the strongest way possible. They are not going to allow such a grand racial opportunity to pass through their hands. White people are gonna pay is definitely what they have in mind.
What a load of BS.
If there was chithot evidence, then warrants would have already been sworn out.
There is no revisiting the crime scene, no missing evidence to be found, no hidden testimony by as yet unknown witnesses, the things that can be subpoenaed have been.
If Zimmerman is arrested, it will be for political expediency. All of us who are interested in defending ourselves, our families, and neighborhoods should be VERY concerned if that happens.
I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that the title is misleading. It would have helped if you had mentioned that the title did not reflect the content of the article though, but you did nothing wrong and I was not chiding you.
I'd rather see a country that has a fair justice system.
If the blacks want to threaten the rights we have in this country then a race war it is.
Many years ago I asked my mother what t.s. meant. She told me it meant tough shoveling. Recently I learned it has another meaning. LOL
You could have stopped right there. A trial -and if it ever happens, I doubt it'll go further than a prelim- will do exactly ZERO to quell the clamoring, and in all likelihood, will exacerbate it. Pulling the plug on this GJ was smart. Continuing a nice looooooooong "investigation" is also smart.
Zimmerman does not need a trial to facilitate seeking applicable damages either.
Poor Zimmerman probably voted for the president who gave nodding approval to the lynch mob about to hang him.
That’s a fair argument too... I’m not sure if... ‘we don’t need you to do that’ constitutes an ‘order’?
When you go to bed with the dogs you wake up with fleas.
Your post should be made into a billboard and put on the outskirts of Sanford. LOL! “ZIMMERMAN VOTED OBAMA AND ALL HE GOT WAS LYNCHED!”
It is not at all my responsibility, duty of any poster to edit any title, article content, to determine the veracity of the title of any article, whether or not the article's content is accurately portrayed as assessed in the title, in an effort to reflect what someone like yourself may misinterpret, or who have a problem with the concept of the way sites like Free Republic operate.
As a matter of fact, in the case of article titles, posters are discouraged in the most intense way not to edit titles, precisely because of situations like the one you've just created.
The issues you've expressed that irk you should be taken up with the site moderator and not the poster, especially so when I posted the title/content precisely the way it was originally posted.
I suggest you employ a proof-reader if this presents a problem of such magnitude for you.
Maybe he just figured that when the case came to trial he would be in middle of his election campaign, it has the potential to lose him white votes and not gain black ones. So he was just looking out for number one.
That is your first problem.
Zimmerman was never ordered to not follow Martin.
I am sure that I am not the first to point this out to you.
Jeez. The GOPe controls everything. Could this be Bush's fault?
The 12 year old is the same age as Travon according to MSM photos.
If you want to see a civil race war, dismiss the case as self defense
I’d rather see a country that has a fair justice system.
If the blacks want to threaten the rights we have in this country then a race war it is.
Damn right. I definitely do not want to live in a country ruled by the mob.
If Corey is a sleazy coward she will fold like a cheap suit and do the politically correct thing - - charge Zimmerman with manslaughter.
First of all, YOU were not admonished by me. Apparently, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
“I’d rather see a country that has a fair justice system.
If the blacks want to threaten the rights we have in this country then a race war it is.”
I keep thinking of comedian Ron White when says “Diamonds, That’ll Shut Her Up!”.
Only in this case I firmly believe the race baiters, Justice Brothers, Van Jones, Obama and even RINO’s, will soon be hoping for the media to say “Reparations, that’ll shut them up!”
Reparations to blacks (redistribution of wealth) is where this is all headed in my opinion.
you’ve got that backwards- if casey anthony was found innocent, then zimmerman who actually IS innocwent will be found guilty in Florida- right is wrong and wrong is right in florida- evil is good, while good gets punished-
there is no evidence and the story perfectly fits exactly what Z said happened...
there is no proof of wrong doing...just because a tragedy happened, it doesn't make it a crime ...