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Unelected EPA Bureaucrats Approve E15 Ethanol
American Thinker ^ | April 9, 2012 | Peter Wilson

Posted on 04/09/2012 8:17:50 PM PDT by neverdem

Last week, "an unelected group of people" over at the Environmental Protection Agency revised our national energy policy, approving a new gasoline blend with up to 15% ethanol, known as E15, which may be available in pumps this summer. Currently, most gasoline sold in the U.S. is E10, containing a maximum of 10% ethanol.

To review the backstory: the last time ethanol was in the news, it seems like its opponents, who come from both the environmental left and free-market right, had won a significant victory. Last summer, "a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress," to use Obama's words about ObamaCare, voted to discontinue subsidies for ethanol, effective 12/31/11.

The president termed the vote to end subsidies "ill-advised." Funny how he rails against "giveaways for the oil companies" -- which turn out to be tax write-offs afforded to most businesses -- yet had no compunctions about paying out 45 cents per gallon to ethanol producers. Rather than an "all of the above" energy policy, Obama seems to be pursuing "nothing from below."

Theoretically, 900,000 gallons of ethanol per day would produce a $17-billion annual subsidy. The actual number reported was lower, in the $6- to $10-billion range, but still much greater than the oil company tax write-offs of $4 billion that Obama finds outrageous, amounting to a few pennies per gallon of gasoline produced. (Four billion dollars spread over $133 billion gallons of gasoline per year comes out to 3 cents a gallon, and that doesn't take into account all the other petroleum products that oil companies provide.)

In any case, it appeared that common sense had prevailed. Ethanol was driving global food prices higher, causing riots in developing countries; rain forests were being destroyed so corn and sugarcane could be cultivated; cars got poorer mileage with ethanol...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoepa; e15; e15ethanol; energy; envirowhackos; epa; ethanol; greens; killmyboat; killmycar; killmyedger; killmylawnmower; killmymotorcycle; killmytractor; killmyweedwhacker
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1 posted on 04/09/2012 8:17:58 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Crap. That will wreck my motorcycle engines and lawnmower. Idiots at work.


2 posted on 04/09/2012 8:23:03 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

Crap. That will wreck my motorcycle engines and lawnmower. Idiots at work.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 8:23:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

E10 is bad enough!!


4 posted on 04/09/2012 8:26:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

Ethanol content up, MPG down, higher gas prices amplified, stop for gas more often. Sure...yup....what could go wrong? You can’t fix stupid, you can only vote it out of office.


5 posted on 04/09/2012 8:27:10 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: neverdem

I hope the world can hold together for a few more months while President Romney cleans up, and out, this mess. I know that some are worried about this, but I’ve looked over his website and I’ve snapshotted the pages.

The first year in office, I’ll be much more interested in what he’s UNDONE than what he’s DONE.


6 posted on 04/09/2012 8:27:37 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Myrddin

http://pure-gas.org/


7 posted on 04/09/2012 8:28:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

This will stimulate the economy by creating lots of repair work on cars motorcycles and lawnmowers.


8 posted on 04/09/2012 8:29:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: Myrddin

Thank Goodness that you don’t have a boat! Ethanol is a well known boat killer (not that I have one but I do love them!)

I can buy goats for my grass! But you cannot fix a boat without an extra couple K sitting around!


9 posted on 04/09/2012 8:31:07 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: neverdem
and America takes another one in the........

10 posted on 04/09/2012 8:33:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SERKIT

Don’t forget the increase in food prices and its the same amount of CO2 expended (maybe more)

Bahh!


11 posted on 04/09/2012 8:34:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: acapesket

Most of the Pure gas for sale in the USA is at marinas


12 posted on 04/09/2012 8:35:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

I wonder who the brilliant bass turd was who thought that it would be a great idea to burn our food in our fuel tanks.


13 posted on 04/09/2012 8:39:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The libs don't want to save da planit. If they did, they'd boycott BIG oil and petroleum products.)
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To: neverdem
the new "LAW" says it's allowed, but is it mandatory?

and why would the gas companies raise the level to 15% if they don't have to since they are in the business of selling gas not alcohol??

14 posted on 04/09/2012 8:40:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
There's a Phillips 66 down the street from me that sells gas with no ethanol.
15 posted on 04/09/2012 8:47:26 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Chode

As far as I know it’s being mandatory is being pushed by the states. A few years ago Tim Pawlenty pushed eventual E-20 on Minnesota. Yeah, that T-Paw, the RINO. I am so happy to be back in TEXAS!


16 posted on 04/09/2012 8:49:26 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Fred Hayek
just damn...
17 posted on 04/09/2012 8:52:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem

Good grief, we all know this won’t work. It will destroy your car engine. Is this what they want?


18 posted on 04/09/2012 8:54:52 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: neverdem

Good grief, we all know this won’t work. It will destroy your car engine. Is this what they want?


19 posted on 04/09/2012 8:54:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: neverdem

Wow, Obama bitchin’ about “unelected officials” opened up a nasty can of worms, didn’t it?


20 posted on 04/09/2012 8:55:31 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: neverdem

Avoid this like the plague... it ruins all sorts of gaskets and hoses and plastic parts.


21 posted on 04/09/2012 8:59:35 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: neverdem

I’ve noticed several gas stations in our area popping up, marketing themselves as selling “Real Gas”, Ethanol free. There’s almost always a line of cars at those places with people waiting to get some.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 8:59:37 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: freekitty

“Good grief, we all know this won’t work. It will destroy your car engine. Is this what they want?”

“They” had no problem at all destroying lots of car engines, wasting the energy and human labor that went into building them, the economic health of those who can’t buy the cars those engines were in anymore, and jobs for mechanics and those in the auto parts recycling industry during Cash for Clunkers. Destroying jobs and the economic health of people is, in fact, what “They” do best.


23 posted on 04/09/2012 9:01:54 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Chode

The 15% ethanol isn’t really that bad, it’s the percentage of water that it attracts-which is basically unavoidable if it is transported or stored. As I recall, there was a time not too long ago when people got sued by the state or even went to jail for selling watered-down gas. Now, it’s the law.


24 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:10 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: neverdem

More agenda driven junk science to support this boondoggle.

Pray for America


25 posted on 04/09/2012 9:05:34 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: acapesket

The marinas in WV sell ethanol free gas.


26 posted on 04/09/2012 9:08:36 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Myrddin

Pure-gas.org has a list of stations in the US and Canada that sell ethanol-free gasoline - have used it in the past and seems to be kept up-to-date. One could always call the station to verify.


27 posted on 04/09/2012 9:09:06 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: The Antiyuppie

I feel bad for kids today.

They cant get a cheap car because of cash for clunkers.
If the could they couldn’t afford gas ,even if they could get an entry level job.
And then Obama wants to force them to pay for healthcare premiums when they are 23 and healthy, further diminishing their dollar.

Did I mention the inflation?

I hope they rise up on Obamas narrah ass in Nov

Fixed income folks are being brutalized too.


28 posted on 04/09/2012 9:10:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

Add to the list of nonsense to overturn next January 20th.


29 posted on 04/09/2012 9:13:48 PM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Myrddin

E10 wrecks those engines now. I know my car is not designed or approved to run E15.


30 posted on 04/09/2012 9:25:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: neverdem

Geez! I wonder what this will do to my 2002 Honda S2000 sports car???


31 posted on 04/09/2012 9:33:00 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: meatloaf

Not at Stonewall Jackson or Burnsville.


32 posted on 04/09/2012 9:33:47 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: mylife

Plenty of pure gas at home in Idaho. None to be found in San Diego where I’m working and riding my bike.


33 posted on 04/09/2012 9:50:55 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: The Antiyuppie
It is as bad as pouring battery acid into your engine. YOU run that crap... dissolves live rubber seals... Viton rubber turns to jelly... I deal with this crap... I know what Chevron has to do to their equipment to blend and deliver it. It is a communist green dream to destroy "polluting engines".

LLS

34 posted on 04/09/2012 9:55:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: SERKIT
You can’t fix stupid, you can only vote it out of office.

I don't think "stupid" is planning on being voted out. In the words of his hero,Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, loosely translated:

"You know, comrades,that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.

Count on it. With embellishments, such as riots in the inner cities, and pre election prep, like challenging the authority of the Supreme Court to rule a law unconstitutional.

35 posted on 04/09/2012 10:01:48 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Myrddin

I used to get 64c a Gallon “leaded” pure gas in SD back in the mid 80’s


36 posted on 04/09/2012 10:03:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: andyk

There’s a list on the internet of stations that sell gas with no ethanol for the entire state of Texas. Problem is the nearest one is about 3 hours drive from us. My car will not run on anything more than E10. This is really bad news.


37 posted on 04/09/2012 10:03:28 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: neverdem
This is a payoff to the UAW in the lines of "cash for clunkheads."

The cash for clunkheads had people trading in $10,000 used vehicles for a $3,000 rebate so the vehicle could be destroyed and taken off the market, forcing people to buy new vehicles.

With E15 they just destroy the engines outright, forcing people to buy new vehicles.

38 posted on 04/09/2012 10:03:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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Ah...come on, guys. Boehner and McConnell have our backs on this.


39 posted on 04/09/2012 10:10:35 PM PDT by jmax
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cha Chingo!


40 posted on 04/09/2012 10:18:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYL-h5_hb4


41 posted on 04/09/2012 10:19:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Love that site! Ping!


42 posted on 04/09/2012 10:24:28 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: mylife

No, you can get real gas at many stations. Check out www.pure-gas.org that mylife posted above. We have many stations in Oklahoma that sell real gas. We never put ethanol in our vehicles.


43 posted on 04/09/2012 10:26:17 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: mylife

Oops, sorry mylife. I meant that last comment for someone else. We old folks get confused. ;-)


44 posted on 04/09/2012 10:28:01 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: mylife
My 74 Porsche 914 required 91 octane. I purchased it from a guy in Mira Mesa in 1987. By that time, the gas was tainted with MTBE. That stuff destroyed the rubber hoses in the fuel system. I've replaced the hoses completely on two occasions. A new fuel pump too. Annoying and expensive. The car has been parked in my garage in Idaho since 2001. No time, money or competent mechanics to keep the maintenance at the level required to keep it on the road.

My best ever premium leaded gas purchase in San Diego was 25.9 cents per gallon. It was a "gas war" in the Summer of 72. Too bad it was barely a one gallon purchase for my motorcycle.

45 posted on 04/09/2012 10:42:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: The Antiyuppie

You think Romney is going to fix this?

BOOOWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


46 posted on 04/10/2012 12:18:59 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: neverdem
Am I the only one who picked up on this.....

"The RFS program was created under the Energy Policy Act (EPAct) of 2005, and established the first renewable fuel volume mandate in the United States. As required under EPAct, the original RFS program (RFS1) required 7.5 billion gallons of renewable- fuel to be blended into gasoline by 2012.

The Energy Independence and Security Act (EISA) of 2007...increased the volume of renewable fuel required to be blended into transportation fuel from 9 billion gallons in 2008 to 36 billion gallons by 2022.

As a reminder the Republican Party controlled both the House and Senate as well as the Presidency in 2005, so we can not blame this boondoggle on the RATS.

Something else to thank that feckless, clueless, Compassionate Conservative RINO, Boosh for!!!

47 posted on 04/10/2012 3:41:34 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“....while President Romney cleans up...”


What are you drinking or what kind of “feel good” pills are you taking?

You can’t be serious.


48 posted on 04/10/2012 4:33:00 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Pining_4_TX; Myrddin; mylife; LibLieSlayer
Click on this for the good old Days

click here for a nice memory

49 posted on 04/10/2012 4:56:24 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Roccus

Thanks for the correction. That was one of those ass-u-me statements on my part. I’ve been told you can buy avgas at Bridgeport.


50 posted on 04/10/2012 7:42:29 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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