Posted on 04/11/2012 8:04:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Notice: Free Republic has been in full rebellion mode since 2008 and will remain in full rebellion mode for the duration!
No more Doles!! No more McCains!! No more RINOS!!
NO ROMNEY!!
Those who cannot stomach rebellion might as well start looking for a new home on the net!!
Those who have ignored my hundreds of posts on this crucial issue or who have doubted me these last three or four years might as well get used to it. FR will never support the abortionist, homosexualist, socialist, mandate loving, constitution trampling liar Mitt Romney.
In case you haven't noticed, a TEA Party rebellion is on and Free Republic signed on years ago. There is no turning back. No more crap from the GOP-e!! They've screwed us for the last time!! Karl Rove and Mitt Romney, et al, loathe conservatism and loathe the tea party and took it upon themselves to use their money and connections to destroy nearly every one of our conservative tea party candidates while pushing their big government RINOS. That makes them the enemy. I will not reward that betrayal by giving them my support or my vote.
FR is and will remain a pro-life, pro-limited government conservative site!!
We are beholden to NO ONE!! We bow to no kings!! We bow to NO RINOS!!
I'd rather fight and die like a man than bend over and be screwed by a RINO!! I refuse to kiss Karl Rove or Mitt Romney's rings!! They can kiss my rosy red ass instead!!
FUMR!! FUGOP!!
Long live the rebellion!!
Hope my message is clear.
whiterhino asked: “...what are the alternatives to another 4 yrs of socialist-racist thuggery if you don’t vote GOP in November?”
“another 4 yrs of socialist-queer, gun grabbing RINO thuggery” is the totally accurate and absolutely unacceptable answer.
Go Newt.
So have I been a faithful Freeper for years, but a vote against Mitt is a vote for the evil Obama. Four more years for the Muslim commie would be the end of the US as we know it.
Oh, make NO mistake...if Obama wins a second term, there wont be a "next time." Hence the decision by many of us to bite the bullet and vote for Romney. Again, we're choosing to deal with reality.
Gotta go to bed, mind is mush.
It was Sam Adams.
no where in my post did I extol the virtues of Obamacare nor Romney care, you get your shorts in a bind not knowing what the hell you are talking about....I point out NO positives for Romney....but I also point out that we all know there are no positives at all for Obama.....here's your challenge, oh brilliant one, Romney with possible positives, or Obama with no chance at all of positive results. Wake up, we will either face Obama disaster for four years, or at least a possibility of a new guy at the rudder.....you cannot be that stupid.
And that's just a steaming pile of horse shit. Romney fully intends to trample on the constitution and our liberty from the get go. He's still in love with his baby RomneyCare. He is the proud grand pappy of ObamaCare. He loves the individual mandate and means to force it on all of us. Show me where in the Declaration or the Constitution it says that government can force a man to purchase a product or service he doesn't want and against his will? Romney's already assembling a national healthcare task force to help the states impose RomneyCare like programs in all 50 states. He's just as committed to socialism and control by a group of elites as Obama.
He's also looking for ways to allow the illegal aliens to remain in country. That means he'll eventually grant them amnesty and the vote and that gives them millions of more socialist voters. And he still believes in man made global warming and he believes government has to do something about it. More socialism. Bigger government. More government force, more corruption and more abuse.
He also believes that gays in scouting clubs and gays in the military are good ideas. That TARP was a good idea and that we'll need more stimulus packages to fight off the coming depression. He also favors raising the debt limit. And he appoints liberal judges. There is no good reason under the sun to vote for this evil socialist bastard.
Romney loathes conservatives, conservatism. Don't be a fool or a tool. A vote for Romney is your personal consent FOR his brand of big government socialism. He'll take it as a mandate. He loves mandates.
We can not afford a second Obama term and helping Romney win might be the only way to stop that. Obama makes Clinton and Carter look like patriots.
If no third party candidates get close, I say let the Rino win or we seriously might not make it to the next election. I'm all ears but see no other options, Jim...
BTTT ... full agreement with sten and Jim.
ENOUGH with the bulldropings..
Tell you what, if you vote for Romney, your voting for more of Obama like policies. Because YOU won’t get behind someone else that can win.
Don’t give me the “third parties can’t win” line of crap either.
The only reason they DON’T win is because people like YOU line up with the other lemmings and head to the cliff to vote for the GOPe liberal.
How do they say Bravo in Navy?
Straw man argument. regardless. Would vote for jack the ripper, son of sam, or BTK Killer over Obama as of today.
HE. NEEDS TO GO!!!
“Romney = 85 chance he will e a disaster.
Obama = 100 chance he will advance communism and collapse.
I am voting based on that 15 percent and nothing more or less.”
There is one problem with your (and others) thinking.....
ROMNEY CAN’T WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROMNEY WON’T WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, you can proudly stand up for conservatism or you can waste your vote on ANOTHER GOPe LOSER!
F me once (Bob Dole), shame on you. F me twice (John McCain), shame on me. F me THREE times (Mitt Romney), wait, I can’t be THAT STUPID!!!!!!!
The only stupid anything on this site is people STILL making excuses for their cowardace in voting Romney, when the boss CLEARLY said such was unwelcome.
Do you not understand that or is your pride unable to allow your decency to shine through?
Speaking as a poster with no authority to so anything but bitch, Shut up, go away or both. But have the decency to respect the owner’s wishes.
that is total nonsense and you know it....while our candidate is FAR from perfect, he is a hell of a lot better that Obama...and you know it.
Our? You hitched your wagon to him. Not me.
So you say he’s a hell of a lot better.
Prove it.
This. IMHO, Ron Paul is too extreme,and i won’t vote for someone who has messed up the military. So i’ll vote for Romney.
No matter what we say or do, Romney cannot inspire or motivate the base in the general election. Just can't work up any enthusiasm for the jerk.
We all KNEW the Primary was critical and yet here we ae again with another McCain/Dole.
I’m fine with not voting for Romney, but who do we vote for?
Jim, I apologize for introducing this, as I do not know how you feel about the site I'm going to link (it has gone much more GOP-e in the last year or so).
But there is a site called RedState.com, run by Erick Erickson (who is a Minnesotan, like me). On this site, a couple of years back, there was a series of posts about something called the Precinct Committeeman Project.
The idea is to take over the GOP from the ground up, swarming all the lower level *PARTY* positions (not governmental positions) with TeaParty, grass-roots, movement conservatives: and working our way up the levers of power in the party, so that Romney-esque shenanigans can no longer be pulled on us.
Here is a link to one of the earliest mentions of it:
(Vassar Bushmills got the equivalent of a RedState *ZOT* a year or two back, for reasons I cannot now recall; but I think that another poster there called ColdWarrior has been pressing the Precinct Committeman Project as of late.)
And as far as the Romney situation goes: let's work to deny him the nomination on the first ballot.
If he names Sarah or Col. West as his running mate, I'll gladly vote for the lower half of the ticket -- as I did in 2008 by voting proudly for Sarah Palin, not for whatshisface.
If he nominates a RINO, I'm stumped. Obaama represents a literal, existential threat to the country -- and by that I mean unilateral disarmament (to be followed by a Chicom invastion or nuclear strike on all our major cities, they need lebensraum) or else war on Israel (in which case GOD kicks our ass, and deservedly so).
But Romney just plain blows.
NO cheers, unfortunately. Cheers!
Myself personally I cannot vote for a pro abortionist without sharing in their sin. I will not have that blood on my hands.
If that means 4 more years of Obama so be it, but I will blame those like you who betrayed their supposed conservative values and sold their soul and supported a liberal candidate.
Seems to me only a hypocrite can call them self a conservative but still vote liberal.
A hypocrite and a coward. Cowardly because you would let your fear of Obama cause you to violate and compromise principles and values.
You and those like you fail at conservatism.
On this issue, I'm taking the advice of Sarah Palin...”Anybody But Obama (ABO)!” I don't think that Sarah is a "tool" or a "fool."
“In MY view, we won’t survive four (heck two more years) of Obama. In MY view, at least with Romney we have a chance. I know this rationale pi$$es many off because they see it as caving or as setting up a straw-man. I (many of us) see it as dealing with reality of a very bad situation and making the best choice we can.”
Consider that if a war over the soul of America is unavoidable, and the Trayvon Martin v.Zimmerman case indicates that is the case, is it not better that such a conflict occur sooner than later?
Every year, the socicalist collective known as the public school system produces another graduating class that has no idea of American history or American Exceptionalism.
Best the fight occurs before the population of acculturated Americans vanishes from this land - what say you, FReepers?
Yeah, I changed my tag line as well.
What are you talking about? A lot of those states have already voted. Below show the ones yet to vote. The ones I list as Mormon are in the top 10 most Mormon states by percentage, but still under 4% total except for Utah.
More Conservative?:
Missouri
Pennsylvania
North Carolina
Indiana
West Virginia
Nebraska
Kentucky
Arkansas
Texas
South Dakota
New Mexico
More Liberal?:
California
New Jersey
New York
Rhode Island
Delaware
Connecticut
Top 10 Mormon %:
Utah
Oregon
Montana
Hey Jim, next time don’t sugar coat it. ;-) Seriously, thanks for letting us hang out here. No Romney, no way, no how.
Well who can??? newt polls worse than Ro,ney as does Santorum?
Ryan , Rand Paul, Mktch Daniels, Gov McDononald, Christie, etc? SIGN ME UP!!!!!
look - I fng hate Romney!!!! I like Ron Paul and will vote for Ron Paul on the 24th in TJE NYS primary regardless.
I am ABO. Put madoff, vandersloot, corzine, whoever, and I will vote for them over Obama.
As we get closer to the general election and Romney’s campaign rhetoric shifts further leftward per his natural inclinations, I wonder how our nose-holding brethren are going to feel about their ever-faithful GOP vote. Better yet, what further contortions they will resort to in an effort to convince us how wrong we are to hold to our conservative principles.
terrible analogies....the election is in November, if you want a third party, and that's OK by me, start a movement after that...we don't have time to play "I wish" games now. We will either vote for Obama or Romney...take your choice
If you’re too cowardly to stand for the principles that this great country was founded on, what good are you? You might as well get off FR and go join some RINO loving site. We’re going to fight these socialist bastards tooth and nail!!
We are the resistance!! Either join the fight or run, or troll-b-gone will get you!!
That's the big problem- IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! Romney can't beat Obama. That's the bottom line. Conservatives will stay home in droves.
the more liberal states on your list are the biggest prizes.
We MUST fight. The difference between the two parties is clear:
.Romney being shoved down our throats by the GOP
.Communisn/Marxism being shoved down our throats by Obama (who still hasn't been properly vetted)
Neither candidate is acceptable and both represent liberal governance. The Tea Party must renew itself and start to back Gingrich with everything its got. Time is short, but look at what we did that the GOP gave us no credit for!!!!!! They think we're gone/done. They need a wakeup call and so do we.
My Godfather died at 33, a POW in a German POW camp a week before it was liberated. I remember as a child the photos in our weekly Life magazine the unimaginable horror of the Bataan Death March, the slaughter of our troops on the islands in the Pacific, the carnage on Normandy Beach, the Burma campaign, the terrible news about World War II. Then Korea and Vietnam, the casualties, the deaths, the missing, the broken bodies and minds. Now we have the Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan with more of the same. To say nothing of the heartache and broken families.
Obama is spitting on the graves of each and every hero who fought for his/her country, to keep us all free and safe. He’s running our country into the toilet. For the first time in 78 years I am truly terrified for my family and all the other families who make up our great nation. It really won’t matter how many people are banned from this site because if he gets in again it will be one of the first to be struck down by another of his abuses of Executive Power. He has only just begun to rule.
I believe in right and wrong. I believe that Romney, by his actions, promotes things that are every bit as anti-American as Obama. I base that on his ACTUAL RECORD.
I would have to say to myself “Norm, everything you ever stood for, every thing you believe is wrong. None of it matters.”
I would have to, now lets be honest here, ACCEPT, by way of my vote, that Abortion, gay marriage, socialism, the complete welfare state, anti-gun beliefs and the rest are ACCEPTABLE, because my vote for a man who PROMOTES those ideals and has a RECORD OF DOING SO ...says that I do.
People can make excuses all they want and justify their cowardace till the cows come home. That’s their choice. I will not abandon everything I believe in, nor will I stand one day before God and try convincing him I didn’t really help send him all those dead babies.
You can. That’s your choice.
God Bless FReepers.
When we lose permanently is when we cave in to the demands of the other side and surrender by giving them a candidate almost as liberal as they are. That’s called giving up.
A successful Romney either means 8 years or more of a new liberalized GOP, or it means 4 years of a crummy, uninspiring presidency after which Obama or another liberal Democrat comes back in 2016 and wins a resounding victory with full power to implement the most liberal agenda possible.
If Obama wins, we could possibly keep gridlocking him like we have since 2010 and minimize the damage he does. One good thing about his sycophantic supporters, they’re too shallow in their thinking to show up to vote for mid-terms. And once Obama’s gone, chances are they won’t find another Democrat who hypnotizes them the way he did.
Bottom line is Romney is SUCH a bad candidate that chances are he will not win. Therefore it would be throwing your time and money down the crapper to try to support him. All our effort should go into stopping him from getting the nomination by backing Newt, and if he does get it, then to backing conservative Congressional candidates.
A conservative that has no conservative republican candidate to vote for, and a RINO, are hardly the same thing.
Come on, please. It’s not advocating for Romney, who I did not vote for in my state’s primary, but to equate the two like this is just not accurate. One is desperate for a conservative candidate to vote for who can also win, the other has no desire to vote for a conservative candidate because like a democrat, they HATE conservatives.
Personally I would love a great conservative candidate to vote for who can win. I voted for one in my state’s primary. He just suspended his campaign. I want to know what the plan is to get a conservative candidate on the ballot is. How do we not get railroaded with Romney?
I’m not stupid enough to believe Romney is any better than Zero. Both are pro abortion socialist POS. Some of us with integrity and principles don’t whore ourselves out for a slightly different shades of fail.
As a matter of fact a Romney admin will only emboldens losers like Boner and Turkey Chin McConnell. With Zero they would at least show some token opposition. With Romney they will fully embrace his liberal agenda.
Furthermore if you think the GOP-e is bad now, wait until Romney is able to pack it with his brand of liberal socialist Republicans. I can guarantee you conservatives will be target number 1 for suppression.
Go pimp your political whore Romney elsewhere and talk about the nuanced differences between he and Zero.
FUMR and FU Romneywhores!
“He (Romney)is nothing but a white version of Obama.”
While both are Saul Alinsky commies, Obama is a Muslim, Romney is not.
Wunderbar.
Be still, my gag reflex.
I guess this is one of those issues that folks will simply not agree on. There are reasons why many of us are going to bite the bullet and vote for Romney, just as their are reasons/convictions of those who will not. Things will play out as they will.
God help our nation.
Wait - are you calling us revolting...? ;-)
But I will pull the lever against Obama because I do not want to see Moochelle's triumphant face on TV for another 4 long years.
I would have loved to vote for the specific folks you mentioned.
The problem is none of them had the balls to run. Ryan is from my state and he’s great. He had no desire at all to run. Our top people were scared sh1tless and did not even stick a toe into the pool.
You can’t vote for someone who doesn’t want to get into the race. People were all begging these folks to jump in.
I don't understand what you are proposing - a general strike? Stop paying taxes? Armed rebellion? What is it that we are supposed to do?
why is "little boy" derogatory??? I am the father of three boys and I recognize the "my way, or no way" attitude that little boys express. I don't care who it is, the election is coming up in November, whine all you like, pout a little if you must, scream as loud as you like.....but you will either vote for Obama or Romney....even if you don't vote. If you can stand another 4 years of the idiot in chief, go for it.....if not, vote for Romney.......and you know I'm right....I always am.
How do we not get railroaded? Simple. We stop making the same F’ing mistakes that get a man like him in the position.
If we continue voting for the Doles/McCains (and yes I made that mistake-never again) and Romneys, why pray tell does anyone with the ability to think critically, come to the conclusion that continuing that will yeild a different result...aka a conservative?
We have to take the hit. And if that hit is fatal, it’s our own damn fault. Because WE created the conditions by allowing the GOP to rule us with liberals. We CANNOT further embolden the process that results in Romney.
Personally, I say we write in Palin, whether she wants it orr not and push/publicize that campaign as a protest. If Newt fails, that’s all we can do.
Without strong, engaged, conservative, voters, GOPe CAN'T WIN! They can't pass anything in Congress either.
We have the power RIGHT NOW! We just have to show them that we are willing USE it.
The argument of “If you don't vote for Romney, what, are you gonna vote for Obama?” NO! You write in a protest vote for Palin, Allen West, Newt, etc. Vote R for Congress, Governor, etc. YOU DON'T VOTE FOR ROMNEY.
“But Obama will win” News Flash..... He's gonna win anyway!
Romney is a loser. BROKEN ARROW!!! It's our only hope.
Maybe Sarah or Newt can still save us, but in no case will I vote for Bob John Romney AGAIN!
“A conservative that has no conservative republican candidate to vote for, and a RINO, are hardly the same thing...Come on, please. It’s not advocating for Romney...”
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Exactly!
I’ll second those sentiments. You nailed it square on the head. An abortionist/socialist president Romney will set back the conservative movement a generation or more. Forty years of wandering in the wilderness.
No thanks!! NO ROMNEY!!
We are the resistance!!
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