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Hacking Expert David Chalk Joins Urgent Call to Halt Smart Grid
Marketwatch.com ^ | April 12, 2012

Posted on 04/17/2012 4:07:43 PM PDT by vanilla swirl

“We're in a state of crisis,” said Chalk. “The front door is open and there is no lock to be had. There is not a power meter or device on the grid that is protected from hacking - if not already infected - with some sort of trojan horse that can cause the grid to be shut down or completely annihilated.”

“One of the most amazing things that has happened to mankind in the last 100 years is the Internet. It's given us possibility beyond our wildest imagination. But we also know the vulnerabilities that exist inside of it. And then we have the backbone, the power grid that powers our nations. Those two are coming together. And it's the smart meter on your home or business that's now allowing that connectivity.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: preppers; smartgrid
So, the grid could could be compromised by an EMP, an 1859 Carrington event, or cyber-hackers.

Oh joy!

1 posted on 04/17/2012 4:07:53 PM PDT by vanilla swirl
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To: vanilla swirl

Its almost like we’re being warned against skynet.


2 posted on 04/17/2012 4:11:14 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Kartographer

Prepper?


3 posted on 04/17/2012 4:13:01 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: vanilla swirl
I've been driving with GPS for about three years now, and in the last six ot sevem ,omths I've experienced a larger number of "lost satalite service" announcements than ever before. (Garmin)

These occur on major interstates (I 70, I 80,) and I suppose this is as good as any other thread to say that.

Anyone else?

4 posted on 04/17/2012 4:17:28 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: vanilla swirl
If anyone's interested:

DEFCON 19: Attacking and Defending the Smart Grid

5 posted on 04/17/2012 4:38:39 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: vanilla swirl; Travis McGee; Quix; Squantos
I know some of you guys are ready, willing, and able to tackle life without any electric power whatsoever.

Note that this particular set of extreme experts state, unequivocally, that there is 100% chance of losing all electricity in America within 3 years.

One hundred percent, folks.

6 posted on 04/17/2012 4:50:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: knarf

Yep, 3 weeks ago, hit a long dead zone on I5 just south of Disneyland.
Both Garmin and IPhone


7 posted on 04/17/2012 4:50:26 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: knarf

Yes, my garmin has been going to no signal every so often for a dozen miles or so.


8 posted on 04/17/2012 5:32:04 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Lazamataz; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

END TIMES PING LIST PING . . .

Plus a few extra loved ones.

POWER OUT PING


I know some of you guys are ready, willing, and able to tackle life without any electric power whatsoever.

Note that this particular set of extreme experts state, unequivocally, that there is 100% chance of losing all electricity in America within 3 years.

One hundred percent, folks.


9 posted on 04/17/2012 5:48:33 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
YER BACK!

Suggestion: Don't tempt fate again and post conspiracy stuff now. Just post stuff that is proveable and factual, like this article. :)

10 posted on 04/17/2012 5:55:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Lazamataz
From the article: "Unless we wake up and realize what we're doing, there is 100% certainty of total catastrophic failure of the entire power infrastructure within 3 years,” said Chalk. “This could actually be worse than a nuclear war, because it would happen everywhere. How governments and utilities are blindly merging the power grid with the Internet, and effectively without any protection, is insanity at its finest."

Perhaps this guy is getting his "100% certainty" by considering all the homes with smart-metering plus all the utility companies that provide smart-metering, plus all the inter-connections between all such utility companies, plus some unknown (at least to us peons) degree of government oversight and control of those utility companies, plus the fact that hackers are daily probing for bigger and better exploits.

Could happen. If it does, we have the best government money can buy to take care of us.

11 posted on 04/17/2012 6:14:40 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: vanilla swirl

At this point you almost have to take it as certain that, if they ever want to, china can shut of the lights and water at many, many places in the US. They plan far, far ahead and there are too many reports of intrusions into power grid-related networks to assume otherwise.

if the US ever tried to militarily stand-up to china, i think their planning has to assume this capability plus who knows what penetration of military networks, PLUS the ability to temporarily re-route a big chunk of world internet traffic through their servers and filter/block whatever they want (they demonstrated this).

An analogy I like is that the Chinese government is playing chess against the US, and the US is playing tic-tac-toe against itself, with china directing one team anyway.

There is speculation that the brazilian power failure some time back was actually either a test or a test that wasn’t supposed to go live, by whoever penetrated their network.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 6:33:55 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Lazamataz

That SOUNDS like a wonderfully practical and useful suggestion.

Alas, it is not.

In my experience . . .

it does NOT matter

HOW FACTUAL A SOURCE, MATTER, ISSUE, PERSPECTIVE, EVENT, ETC. IS

Prove can be provided from multiple sources; piles of professional journals; main stream sources; Wounded high ranking officer veteran MD heros who are also FREEPERS

. . . and it just does not matter. The personal biases and moods of some involved decide FACT AND RIGHT in such matters.

I’ll hush. They seem to love to seek my posts out for any possible reason to wail and whine.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 6:51:22 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: WoofDog123

Absolutely indeed.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 6:53:54 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: vanilla swirl

Coordinated attacks on tens of thousands of compromised networked smart meters? Trivial. Gonna happen.


15 posted on 04/17/2012 7:16:29 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: knarf

Ha! GPS woman took us down an old logging road down in Alabama a while back. Road turned into a road that hugged the edge of a deep ravine, then into a deeply rutted out cow path that we could barely get past. If we’d had to back the four or five miles out of there, we’d still be stuck at the deep rut. - Guess “Miss Know It All” GPS talker hadn’t got the word that this “road” was impassable.

Not complaining; just speaking truth to power. Heh.


16 posted on 04/18/2012 3:29:30 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: vanilla swirl

Wasn’t the “smart” meter an idea promoted by the “smart” Obama Administration?


17 posted on 04/18/2012 3:35:40 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Twinkie
I used to be a hotshot driver for the gas well drillers around here, and when wells are first starting up, I got directions by co-ordinates.

I borrowed a TOMTOM for my first couple of runs until I realized TOMTOM does not save in favorites, remote locations.

123 Main St., Anywhere, USA is fine, but punching in W and S co-ordinates will GET you there, but once there, when you "save my location" to favorites, and try to use that to return again, TOMTOM says, "No route planned" ... so I switched to Garmin. (Magellen was more expensive)

ALL GPS seems to "lag" a little if you drive too fast or you don't look at the map and co-ordinate what you're doing with the highlighted path.

I listen to the voice prompts, but in strange areas, especially multi-turned city directions, I synch voice with the map.


I think your friend was guilty of not upgrading the system ... Off the shelf GPS can be a year or more old.

18 posted on 04/18/2012 4:22:01 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

We experienced loss of satellite reception for Google maps for long periods of time on I-75 just this past weekend in North Florida.


19 posted on 04/18/2012 5:54:51 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Excellence

BFL


20 posted on 04/18/2012 10:08:44 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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