Posted on 04/21/2012 8:21:41 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
New Law To Require 'Black Boxes' In All Cars
New Law Mandates Black Boxes In All Cars By 2015
By Bailey Johnson
A recently passed bill will require all cars to come equipped with "black boxes" that record vehicle data. These Event Data Recorders (EDR), similar to their airplane counterparts, will record data such as speed, brake force and electrical systems monitoring. The days of a car crash being one driver's word against another look to be history.
Senate Bill 1813 (known as Map-21) mandates that automakers install EDRs in all new vehicles starting in 2015.
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In my city, they charge you for the amount of rainwater that goes into the sewers.
Mandate away....
Opens a new opportunity to “jailbreak” said black boxes. It will be jailbroken before it hits the showroom floor.
“The of course there are “malfunctions” common to every device on a modern automobile.”
They could actually wire them so if not operating the car will not start. But whatever, there would be ways to bypass them.
The Toilet Safety Administration (TSA) has been predicted here:
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Our company has a new wellness plan, they take your biometrics (blood tests) and you have to fill out an online health assessment or pay 20% more for your health insurance. You also have to agree to participate in the programs that they deem necessary. (i.e. weight loss, smoking cessation, etc).
Obviously the information you give them is on a database forever.
Between the Auto black box, taxes, health information and the information idiots post on facebook, etc. Governments and companies will literally know everything about you.
Were heading towards a brave new world very fast now.
Maybe there will be an underground industry that would sell transmitters to comply with the cop but give out false data.
I think the only way to avoid it, would be to replace most of the electronics in the car, which is normally impractical.
Nissan’s GTR has a nanny box already. Nissan can choose not to honor the warranty on the car if you tamper with it, and it is checked religiously at every car service.
The box checks things like RSA signature on security devices, engine control firmware and settings tables, ABS firmware, airbag, etc.
As far as I know, the only way around the thing at this point, is to ditch the stock electronics.
The thing even knows if the chips were modded, then replaced with the original firmware for service.
It also records abusive driving, such as high RPM shifting, etc.
I love Nissan vehicles, but I would not set foot in a GTR unless I was so wealthy I could have it fixed without warranty without really caring about the expenditure.
BTW, they can also tell if the box was removed from the car and swapped with a stand in -— two ways, the car won’t run anyway if the stock ECM is in place, and the box itself will detect the inconsistency once it is re-established in the car’s system for the return to the service dept. (this is easy to do using sequence codes and RSA hashes).
“Someone at Fox needs to watch Schoolhouse Rock to learn the difference between a Senate Bill and a law”
They are all nothing more than highly overpaid Monday morning quarterbacks.
None of them could do anything they report on. At best they are gossip merchants with a communist agenda.
It is the same problem we have with most politicians who are lawyers and think the solution to everything in life is a law or regulation.
Maybe someday we will have enough people who did not go to public schools and their Marxist indoctrination and we will start voting for anyone except lawyers.
The GOP will pass it of course
They won’t need to connect anything. It’ll be wireless. They only need to be in proximity.
There will be an opportunity to make money for someone who comes up with a way to neutralize these boxes without affecting the car’s operation. I sure don’t want the government to have access to all this data, or someone else who snoops for some nefarious purpose.
We all need to be contacting our US reps to tell them we want them to vote no on this bill. Otherwise its going to pass.
>In fact I wonder how much of the electrical system could be eliminated - manual start, manual transmission, no radio, no AC.
Even more if you went with a Diesel-engine instead of mogas; Diesels are compression-ignition, meaning they don’t need spark-plugs.
Yes, any vehicle with an OBD-II data port has this capability. From around 1996 on, the capability of law enforcement and/or your insurer to obtain data from your vehicle is mentioned in the operator's manual.
Remember how Toyota technicians figured what James Sikes did to his Toyota Prius? It was a black box.... Next mandate may be add transponder (RFID) on every cars...
Wait untl the government starts charging everyone per flush.
Yes, all new cars. I don’t have to go buy something and install it in the car I already own, which is what “all cars” would mean.
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