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1 posted on 04/21/2012 3:29:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Everyone involved will be pressured into making sure he is guilty.


2 posted on 04/21/2012 3:30:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Because of this, no matter how many times the state puts Zimmerman on trial, the outcome will probably be the same: a hung jury.

Some of have known and stated this from day one.

All white jury and he has a chance for a fair trial, all black jury and he's guilty as hell, mixed race jury equals hung jury every time he's tried.

How many times will the state try him with the same results? When does it simply become harassment to retry him?

Eventually, when Florida becomes tired of retrying him, the fed justice dept. will charge him with a civil rights violation.

3 posted on 04/21/2012 3:38:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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Seminole County, Florida appears to be 90+% white. There has been talk of busing in jurors to make it “fair.” I leave it to the reader to determine the race of the “busees!”


5 posted on 04/21/2012 3:39:44 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Angela Corey should be investigated and brought up on charges at some point which should dampen Florida’s ardor to keep retrying Zimmerman indefinitely.


7 posted on 04/21/2012 3:42:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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The facts of this case, no matter if they are for or against Zimmerman, ultimately will have very little to do with the outcome. Jurors, when it comes to voting on guilt or innocence, are most likely going to break down along racial lines. Try as they might to be good citizens and follow the instructions of the judge to put their personal feelings aside and make a decision based only on the facts of the case, the odds are that they will deadlock. This is not to say they are weak people; rather, it indicates how strongly race factors into decisions in American life, and it’s hard to see how this case will be an exception. Jurors are not superhuman.

This is BS, I had to read about half of the article before the guy made his point. White people are too racist to convict a man guilty of killing a black man. Who the he** acquitted OJ then if this BS is true? White Jurors may very well vote to acquit but it won't be for racist reasons, it will be because they listen to the facts instead of the BS pushed by the MSM.

9 posted on 04/21/2012 3:43:19 PM PDT by calex59
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Unless the Special Prosecutor unveils some yet undisclosed evidence, I think there is an excellent chance the judge will direct a not guilty verdict before a jury is ever picked.
11 posted on 04/21/2012 3:43:47 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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“by way of force, to deal with the skeleton of race that’s been hanging in the national closet for centuries. “

I agree. It’s time that everyone accepts the fact that blacks are the only large group left in America that’s overwhelmingly racist.

Then we can answer this question: What do we do about it?


13 posted on 04/21/2012 3:45:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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I hate to lay blame in any one corner, I REALLY do, but it’s all the democrats fault.

Dems are the party of RACE. Certainly today, and for many years back.

The Al Not-so Sharpton’s and Jerkson’s of their party have elevated this and worked their voting plan... I mean, public into a frenzy.

With about 50 murders EVERY day in the US, the dems have chosen this one for everybody to chime in on, and keep this in the news cycles, tainting any potential jury. From zer0 himself, to the Martin parents, and everybody in-between.

The best thing for justice here would be if the judge forbade live TV, cameras, and the like. Anything to tone down the ferver and let the courts do their job... themselves!


15 posted on 04/21/2012 3:47:49 PM PDT by C210N (Go Newt!)
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The illogical logic of the Left will be that TRAYVON DESERVES A JURY OF HIS PEERS.

I know, I know, it is the ACCUSED who that is supposed to apply to, but when Eric Holder's people are involved, logic and truth have nothing to do with anything.

22 posted on 04/21/2012 3:54:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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I have little faith in either FL jurors or FL voters.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 3:58:45 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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I feel sorry for anyone called to be on that jury.


24 posted on 04/21/2012 4:00:48 PM PDT by matt04
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A proper judge (but courageous as well) would simply toss the case because there is no probable cause shown by the affidavit alleging a crime. Plus, more evidence (the photos of Mr. Zimmerman’s bleeding scape) revealed is showing that the prosecution was dead wrong, to the point of misconduct.

Pray that a courageous and judicial competent judge will toss the case. This has gone too far.


32 posted on 04/21/2012 4:10:22 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Few, if any, whites in the South are going to want to be forever known as a member of a jury that voted to convict Zimmerman

That must be because they haven't been successfully brainwashed into self-loathing "white guilt" like us northerners.

42 posted on 04/21/2012 4:20:03 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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Get ready for the Amish to throw a real snot-slinger.


62 posted on 04/21/2012 6:24:32 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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The last column this gutless wonder wrote suggested that Zimmerman ought to just enter a plea and go to prison for ten years . . . to avoid the inevitable race riots if he were acquitted.

Since he composed what amounted to an extortion note, I've made the decision not to listen to or believe anything else the man says. He has demonstrated that he has no morals and no brains.

"Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people."

63 posted on 04/21/2012 6:26:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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For some time I have been predicting a hung jury.


68 posted on 04/21/2012 6:49:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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Because of this, no matter how many times the state puts Zimmerman on trial, the outcome will probably be the same: a hung jury. Few, if any, whites in the South are going to want to be forever known as a member of a jury that voted to convict Zimmerman, and conversely, no black is going to care to be known as the person who voted to acquit him. It’s a recipe for deadlock.

Talk is already circulating of a change of venue, but a change to where? The moon? There’s no place in the country where potential jurors haven’t heard about the case, and most folks (black and white, rightly or wrongly) have already formed opinions that by now are virtually intractable.

Get a load of this guy. It's interesting, in a forensically fascinating and simultaneously repugnant sort of way, to see that this 'Rat troll thinks is reason and thought.

It's more like a warm souffle' exploding against a kitchen wall.

69 posted on 04/21/2012 6:52:52 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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70 posted on 04/21/2012 6:54:22 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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Before there is any trial there will be a motion to dismiss based on the SYG law providing for IMMUNITY from prosecution for valid self-defense. The same law provides for immunity from civil liability as well.

The depths of idiocy in this article begs for a lawsuit for racial incitement to riot by a writer without a clue.

The arrest affidavit is clinging by a thread - wait til the motion to dismiss. We do have law here in FL that judges must follow.

If Mr. Z can establish he was reasonably in fear of grievous bodily injury or death the judge will dismiss all charges at the hearing.

Motions to dismiss on SYG have been successfully done on paper (exhibits, affidavits, depositions, etc.) or with paper and actual live testimony.

The judge is both the trier of fact and law. Unique for pre-trial motions. Usually if there is question of fact you have to go to trial to establish that.

If the motion to dismiss fails its a toss up as to whether you go to trial or appeal the failure to dismiss. As the Peterson case established on appeal the law provides for an actual IMMUNITY - not just an affirmative defense.

Please note that Zimmerman need only establish his self-defense actions by a preponderance of the evidence - more likely than not (50% + 1) that he feared for his life or serious bodily injury.

That this is unknown to many at this point is truly astounding. Gang bangers having it out with rival gangs have gotten off in late night shoot outs with each other on self-defense grounds.

The only consideration here is to what extent the MSM and race baiters can threaten the area/nation with chaos and rioting if charges are dismissed. That threat is really the only real question here. Trust me. ;-)


75 posted on 04/21/2012 7:25:59 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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Students watch the OJ verdict:


80 posted on 04/21/2012 8:07:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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