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Constitution Party to run Virgil Goode for president
Roanoke.com ^ | 4-22-12 | Arielle Retting

Posted on 04/22/2012 8:27:52 PM PDT by Mozilla

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To: EternalVigilance

Well I agree that he spent a long time in politics. But at this point both parties are having problems. So I believe Goode realized that both parties were not doing what people wanted. And he left the GOP after losing his 2008 re-election. In fact, I wonder if he stayed a republican a while just so he could win elections because people don’t vote for independents or 3rd party people for congress for now unless your name is Joe Lieberman, who in my opinion is a fake independent since he still follows Harry Reid’s orders.


61 posted on 04/23/2012 6:44:57 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Mozilla
I need a choice since I will not vote Romney. And he is the best one on the board.

I completely agree. Of course, Goode isn't going to be elected -- neither is Romney -- but the greater issue here is a chance for conservatives to migrate to a party that better aligns with their ideology. The GOP simply isn't getting it done anymore, and nothing more typifies that failure than the nomination of Mitt Romney.

I don't despise Romney to the level that I despise Obama, but I simply don't subscribe to Romney's pro-homo, enviro-whacko, anti-gun, health-care usurping leanings.

62 posted on 04/23/2012 6:48:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: SumProVita

The GOP made the gravest of mistakes by shoving Romney in our faces. I for one refuse to own it.


63 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: EternalVigilance

If you won’t face that fact you’re not dealing in reality.

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I disagree. I have always been a principled realist. I have participated in many elections. I have taught American (and British) history. I am equally frustrated but I believe that experience and wisdom inform my judgment...not fear.

I am also convinced that even more of our citizens need to repent and ask our Father in heaven to heal this nation.


64 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:22 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mozilla

Virgil I. “Gus” Grissom would be able to fulfill Goode’s duties just as well.


65 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:59 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: ScottinVA
here is a chance for conservatives to migrate to a party that better aligns with their ideology.

The CP doesn't align with my conservative ideology.

66 posted on 04/23/2012 6:53:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: SumProVita
I agree. Obama’s actions are HORRENDOUS! In a 2nd term, he will not hold back in exercising his extremely radical agenda.

The GOP has done a horrendous job of standing up to him. Mitch McConnell's abjectly pathetic inability to put sufficient pressure on GOP senators and assemble a fight against the repeal of DADT and the New START ratification ripped it for me with the GOP. Add to that the weakness shown by John "We Have A Deal" Boehner in the budget negotiations... what exactly is the point?

67 posted on 04/23/2012 6:57:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: ScottinVA

YES, the GOP has made a huge mistake with this....but I will not! I will vote to defeat Obama...and work hard at the local level to reform the GOP.

I am also aware that politics without Divine Providence and intervention is worthless.

Praying and fasting for our nation is a major part of this.

;-)


68 posted on 04/23/2012 6:58:26 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: EternalVigilance
The CP doesn't align with my conservative ideology.

OK... does the Romney-nominating GOP align with it?

69 posted on 04/23/2012 6:59:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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To: SumProVita
I am equally frustrated but I believe that experience and wisdom inform my judgment...not fear.

Then why is it that the only talking point you have is fear?

I fear a nation full of "conservatives" who have no principles left that they won't compromise infinitely more than I fear a second Obama term.

We've survived wicked, stupid politicians before in America, but the abandonment of all principle by the only group of people that represent any hope for the future of this free republic can only lead to the sort of political environment that produced Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

It is the compromise of principle that led to Obama. You won't lead us away from what Obama represents by more compromise. The idea that you might is utter nonsense, frankly. It denies all reason and logic.

70 posted on 04/23/2012 7:02:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Another question, a practical one: How do they intend to get on the ballot in California? Last time I checked the CP had about three hundred registered voters there.”

Well I am not sure. I am quiet aware that in 2008. they did not make the ballot on all 50 states. They did make it in my state, but I have to wonder if they won’t pick up more states. Would be a shame if they didn’t make it in California but it is a leftist state for the most part so I am sure they would have a harder time than in a Conservative state.

However, I am also aware they were aligned with the American Independent Party of California and had a falling out and got taken to court to resolve the issues.

In 1992, a number of independent state parties united to form the U.S. Taxpayers Party. In 1999, at its national convention for the 2000 elections, convention delegates chose to change the party name to the “Constitution Party,” to better reflect the party’s core beliefs stated in the U.S. Constitution. It is constitutionalist, which means that they support limited government as outlined in the Constitution.

It is the largest 3rd party out there. It rivals the libertarian party in terms of which is larger in voter registration.

There are other right-wing parties that have lesser resources according wikipedia, which it claims are associated with Conservatism including both Old Right and New Right tendencies.

They are the:
America First Party
Christian Liberty Party
America’s Party
American Party
Independent American Party

But they will have a harder time getting on a ballot than the CP.


71 posted on 04/23/2012 7:05:33 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

“YES, the GOP has made a huge mistake with this....but I will not! I will vote to defeat Obama..and work hard at the local level to reform the GOP.”

Well I hope to work hard at a local level myself to help support the best conservative in my area as well as in my state. But I needed a good option for president and this one is the best one out there. I’d rather support a conservative if Romney is to be nominated than back stabbing Romney.


72 posted on 04/23/2012 7:14:38 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

I assure you that it is not fear. It is a firm desire for that peace and freedom that allow us to function well. Quite simple.

“It is the compromise of principle that led to Obama.”

On the part of whom?

There were many factors that led to the election of Obama, including those who refused to “compromise” their political principles by voting for McCain.

Overall, it is simply a result of the fact that our nation began to ignore God. The same results have been evident in other nations throughout history.

“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” ... Alexander Solzhenitsyn


73 posted on 04/23/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ScottinVA

“Exactly. Migrating to the Constitution Party doesn’t mean not ever voting for a GOPer again. There are plenty of down-ticket races involving conservative candidates.”

Right. That’s the same way I see it.


74 posted on 04/23/2012 7:16:27 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

Well thought out; and well said.


75 posted on 04/23/2012 7:17:43 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Mozilla

I respect your free choice...though I believe it to be a grave mistake.


76 posted on 04/23/2012 7:19:27 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ScottinVA
OK... does the Romney-nominating GOP align with it?

Not even close.

77 posted on 04/23/2012 7:28:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: ScottinVA

“I completely agree. Of course, Goode isn’t going to be elected — neither is Romney — but the greater issue here is a chance for conservatives to migrate to a party that better aligns with their ideology. The GOP simply isn’t getting it done anymore, and nothing more typifies that failure than the nomination of Mitt Romney.

I don’t despise Romney to the level that I despise Obama, but I simply don’t subscribe to Romney’s pro-homo, enviro-whacko, anti-gun, health-care usurping leanings.”

I would have much rather have supported tea party conservative nominee for the republican party, but since it is not happening then the Conservative Party is a good option.

The two party system is failing us because they won’t listen. Romney is not a real opposition to Obama. And to go along with him would go against my principals.

So I agree that Conservatives need to migrate to a new party because the GOP is not only refusing to listen to us but actively attacking, undermining and corrupting the conservative agenda and candidates.


78 posted on 04/23/2012 7:30:54 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: SumProVita

Quit fooling yourself. Support for Mitt Romney is the abandonment of every core principle of this republic, and of conservatism.


79 posted on 04/23/2012 7:33:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: Mozilla

Amen... couldn’t have said it better.

The GOP-e regards the Tea Party as little more than an annoyance to be ignored until election time. These folks are wayyyy too restive to be relegated to the GOP-e’s shut-up-until-we-need-you approach.


80 posted on 04/23/2012 7:36:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Constitution Party -- 2012!)
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