As for the rest of your question: of course you need an id for most of those things, but you already knew that!
Posted on 04/25/2012 2:19:23 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
Madison -- The Court of Appeals declined to take up a Dane County case Wednesday that blocked the state's new law requiring people to show photo ID at the polls.
The latest order is a further setback for those who support the voter ID law, and is another sign the law almost surely will remain halted for the May 8 primaries and June 5 recall elections.
Dane County Circuit Judge David Flanagan temporarily enjoined the voter ID law last month, saying the Milwaukee branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and immigrant rights group Voces de la Frontera were likely to succeed in their argument the law is unconstitutional.
A week later, Dane County Circuit Judge Richard Niess permanently enjoined the law in a case brought by the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin.
The state Department of Justice appealed both decisions, to two separate courts of appeals. Both appeals courts said the cases should go directly to the state Supreme Court because of their statewide importance, and the appeals courts did not render opinions on them.
But the Supreme Court this month said it would not take either case, sending them back to the appeals courts.
By then, the trial in the NAACP case was under way. The Waukesha-based District 2 Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday that it would not take up the case because of its procedural posture.
Flanagan is expected to rule on the case sometime after mid-June. Either side can appeal the case, and at that stage the court of appeals will have to take the case because there will be a final ruling.
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What A Crock! WI sure has a bunch of liberal boneheads.
Seriously? The Supreme Court bumped it back to the appeals court now they’re refusing to take it. What next? Someone has to hear it.
FAST TRACK TO SCOTUS. There is a compelling need that justice be served prior to the recall.
Maybe this is a good thing then. I would like to see the voter ID law reinstated before June 5.
This is utter Fascism...unmasked, open, brazen. What recourse is there? Doesn’t the SCOTUS have any role here? The Indiana precedent clearly makes all such laws kosher.
It’s Madison - what did you expect?
Hard to get voters to understand that the communists are in control and will use our very owns laws against our Constitutional rights.
I have a question. If I go in to vote and someone else has already taken my ballot, what then? Obviously, my ID has no bearing since whoever stole my vote didn’t need one. Maybe, I should just vote here, go to West Bend, vote there, go to Hartford, Johnson Creek etc.
If I want to go on an airplane, I have to have a valid ID; if I want to drive a car, same, if I want to write a check, same thing. I am so flippin’ confused! Do people have to have an ID to get state aid? Register for college? Is it because some of those are not rights? OK, then, how about getting married? Since so many consider it a right to be married ie; gays.
I guess I just cannot see the logic in not requiring an ID.
As for the rest of your question: of course you need an id for most of those things, but you already knew that!
Good thing conservatives are honest, moral people.
Otherwise many from out of state could go in and request ballots...voter registration rolls are public domain.
Only the left does this kind of reprehensible act. They never have to worry about us doing these kinds of things.
Your mistake is looking for logic. This facilitates Democratic voter fraud, plain and simple. If you failed to believe it, this should help you come to grips with the reality of the situation. I suspect you know it deep down, it's just hard to imagine public officials being so blatantly transparent in their attempts to defraud the sanctity of our electoral process
Well, that certainly pushes it out well past the date they need the illegal votes to oust the Governor. Good work!
“I have a question. If I go in to vote and someone else has already taken my ballot, what then? Obviously, my ID has no bearing since whoever stole my vote didn’t need one. Maybe, I should just vote here, go to West Bend, vote there, go to Hartford, Johnson Creek etc.”
They know who the dead or moved registered voters are. So they don’t give ballots unless you are certain not to show up. Also, they wait ‘til the end of the day.
partially true, because you CAN make your vote count even if it is to offset the stolen one. Demand a provisional ballot, file a protest, find the media pronto, and make a great big fuss.
This is very disappointing that the Wisc Supreme Court did not have the balls to review this case, especially with a 4-3 supposed conservative majority on the court. Sending it back to the same Appeals courts that rejected it in the first place is both cowardly & ridiculous. What a bunch of chickensh_ts the Wisc Supreme Court turned out to be be. There is no way that SCOTUS will review this prior to the May recall primaries or June recall election. There will likely be 100,000 or more, out-of-state union “voters” pouring in from IL, IA & MN to vote in the WI recall election. Personally I believe that the WI Repubs & Gov Scott Walker should just declare the judges rulings to be null & void and to proceed with the photo ID requirement. It’s what a dimturd would do!
I do not believe that the lawsuit challenges the requirement to sign the voter roll before given a ballot.
So there may be some evidence to pursue including fingerprints on ballot if the DA is so inclined.
Yep! The fix is in. I fear that with everything else going on that if the dems steal this that the SWHTF. Otherwise BOHICA. (Bend over, here it comes again.)
>This facilitates Democratic voter fraud, plain and simple.
I would say it facilitates democrat voter fraud. There is nothing Democratic about the democrat party.
I refuse to honor the democrat party’s desire to have the word “democratic” associated with their marxist and criminal gang.
You watch too much CSI. Everybody on God's green earth touches that ballot, starting with Juan, the illegal alien working for the print shop. (I watch too much as well)
Apparently its dead, or something
I would have expected better from a mermaid..
I would think that those who are seeking state and/or federal benefit payments of any kind would have to have some kind of photo ID. After Ike destroyed some of my property I applied to FEMA and SBA for a low interest loan to repair my business property. The forms could be sent by mail to an office in Florida which was handling Texas claims but I had to send a copy of my driver’s license, picture ID and a copy of the letter from IRS which contained my business tax ID number. It just seems strange that all government agencies require that you prove who you are for everything but voting. Makes absolutely no sense.
RECALL THE JUDGES- this is the only remedy!
Well then I guess my vote will not count because their will be others voting illegally to nullify it. Is this a great country or what. Turning into a police state banana republic!!!
Perfectly logical if your intent is to commit voter fraud.
IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
Yes, it was rhetorical. But, it seems like it could happen.
It could. In fact, I’ve seen it happen. I don’t think it was intentional, but I was at the sign in table when one of the ladies who was minding the book checked off the wrong name. That is the reason that (in Mequon, at least) we have 2 clerks on the books at all times. In any case, somebody checked off the wrong name. When the person came into vote, one of our books said that that person had already voted.
After a little kerfluffle, we back tracked and found the mistake. If we hadn’t been running 2 books, that voter would have been out of luck.
Now that the voter has to sign one of the books, I don’t think that it would be as easy to make such a mistake — UNLESS it is intentional. The voter would not sign over the wrong name, unless he/she means to.
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John should have stayed with the blonde mermaid
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You cannot enter a Federal Courthouse without showing picture ID.
How is it that the Courts can “discriminate against minorities” in allowing access to courthouses and Federal buildings by requiring photo ID, but the states cannot require it for entrance into a voting booth?
How is this a good thing? A Dane County peon district Judge Flanagan temporarily ruled against voter ID, then a 2nd peon Dane County district Judge Richard Neiss ruled a permanent injunction against voter ID, then 2 Appeals Courts refused to rule on it, then a chickenshit WI Supreme Court refused to hear the case and kicked it back to the two Appeals Courts who refused to hear it earlier, and now say the EARLIEST they could hear the case is in mid-June, well past the June 5 recall election.
So how would voter ID be reinstated before June 5, given these circumstances and court rulings? There is absolutely no way the WI Senate or Assembly will pass a 2nd version of voter ID if this is running into all these court rulings against it. Personally I wish the Gov Scott Walker would issue a governor's executive order, declaring these rogue judicial rulings to be null & void and mandating that all election precincts must enfore voter ID or their precincts will not be counted. At some time, we have got to stand up against these bastard rogue judges who continually rule against the rule of legislative law, and instead make themselves to be the official purveyor of law according to them. We need an American Revolution II now more than ever.
How is this a good thing? A Dane County peon district Judge Flanagan temporarily ruled against voter ID, then a 2nd peon Dane County district Judge Richard Neiss ruled a permanent injunction against voter ID, then 2 Appeals Courts refused to rule on it, then a chickenshit WI Supreme Court refused to hear the case and kicked it back to the two Appeals Courts who refused to hear it earlier, and now say the EARLIEST they could hear the case is in mid-June, well past the June 5 recall election.
So how would voter ID be reinstated before June 5, given these circumstances and court rulings? There is absolutely no way the WI Senate or Assembly will pass a 2nd version of voter ID if this is running into all these court rulings against it. Personally I wish the Gov Scott Walker would issue a governor's executive order, declaring these rogue judicial rulings to be null & void and mandating that all election precincts must enfore voter ID or their precincts will not be counted. At some time, we have got to stand up against these bastard rogue judges who continually rule against the rule of legislative law, and instead make themselves to be the official purveyor of law according to them. We need an American Revolution II now more than ever.
It looks like these lowlife freakin’ “judges” approve of voter fraud. That’s a bunch of commies for you. You can’t trust those bass turds.
I can empathize with your situation.
As a retired law enforcement officer, although that has no bearing in my case since I only seek to be treated like any American citizen who is afforded Second Amendment Constitutional rights, I found my recent purchase of a firearm very interesting, especially in view of the passage of the voter ID law in Wisconsin, only to be vacated by a variety of activist judges.
In short, I haven’t purchased a firearm for probably 20 years. When I made the purchase at a local franchised store, I was first asked to show them my photo driver’s license. I was then required to complete 3 forms of information. Apparently, one look at my photo driver’s license didn’t do the job because I was asked to produce my license a second time so a background check could be run, at my expense of course.
The sales clerk then advised me that I could pick up my firearm after 48 hours transpired. I questioned her about the waiting period because the last time I bought a firearm, the waiting period was 3 days. He advised the change was made more than a year ago.
Skip to 3 days after my purchase (I was unable to pick up my firearm after 48 hours because I was out of town) and I approached the same sales clerk who remembered me, but asked to see my photo driver’s license a third time, finalized a document she began when I initially came in to purchase the firearm and then carried the firearm up to the checkout lane where I paid for it.
I know she was following store protocol, but I was tempted to comment that the store policy makes it impossible for a citizen who doesn’t have a photo ID to purchase a firearm, even though none is required for voting purposes.
I am ashamed to admit I was born and raised in Madison, but during my youth and young adulthood, Madison actually had judges who made judgements according to the law rather than basing their decisions on a skewed political agenda.
EODGUY
Sounds like a bunch of liberals moved to WI temporally.
As effed up as the system is, YOU'LL probably be the one charged with vote fraud.
No doubt,but Maryland has them beat!
That would not insure that your vote would be counted. They way it works is that the early/absentee votes are delivered to the polls sometime in the middle of the day. They are opened and checked off against the poll lists as the clerks have time during voting hours. Then they are placed into the the ballot boxes where they are counted electronically with the rest of the ballots.
If someone comes in during the voting hours, pretends to be you, and claims your ballot before your absentee ballot is counted, you are out of luck. Your absentee ballot would be rejected because the clerks would think that you decided to come to the polls and vote in person after all.
We need photo voter id.
I’ve lived here 27 years. During that time, photo voter id has been passed by both the public (advisory referendum) and by the legislature. Then it was vetoed by a Dem Governor. Now it’s being vetoed by rogue judges. In the mean time voter fraud continues. A report, accidentally released to the public when Milwaukee was in transition between police chiefs, proved that there was rampant voter fraud in just Milwaukee in the 2004 presidential election. The new police chief disbanded the Milwaukee fraud unit just before the 2008 election. The Milwaukee report doesn’t even touch on what goes on in Dane County. The head of that task force was “induced” to retire by being given less than desireable assignments. That 67 page report has been scrubbed from the Web.
Nobody checks on the students who think that they are allowed to vote both at college and at home. Nobody checks on people from out of state who own summer cottages here who vote in Wisconsin. I remember that in 2004 there were ads running in Madison asking for students who were interested in traveling to MN to vote again because MN also has same day registration. Also in 2004 the streets all the way north to Pt. Washington were suddenly choked with IL cars on election day. Hmmmm. I wonder why?
How many times in his entire life has this ‘JUDGE” had to present his own ID? Thousands, I’ll bet.
This is so bogus, I don’t even have words for this jerk of a jurist.
YOU GOTS TA HAVE YO SHOWME ID IF YA WANTS TA GO ON DOWN TA THE LIQUOR STOR AND GET YE SOME GIN AND JUICE!!!!~!
I just got my new voter registration card in the mail today. They send me a new one every two years. If they send one out and the person is no longer at the address, the post office is supposed to return it as undeliverable and the voter is purged from the rolls until such time as they re-register from a new address.
Forgive me if I have already told you of this incident, but when my son attended the UW Madison, one of his roommates from out of state wanted to vote in the presidential election. He was told that since he didn’t have an ID that indicated his Madison residence, he could bring one of his roommates and a rent receipt to the polling site and vote.
Another roommate who had already voted went with this young man and candidly mentioned to the poll worker that he could probably vote again and no one would know the difference. The poll worker didn’t express any emotion when he said that he was probably correct.
I think a huge amount of fraud is taking place as a result of the relaxation of standards for absentee voting. When I was in the military and stationed 10,000 miles from Madison, I had a very difficult time obtaining an absentee ballot. Today, you don’t even need a valid reason for requesting one.
EODGUY
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