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Illegal Exodus Shows Jobs Matter More Than Handouts
IBD ^ | 04/27/2012

Posted on 04/29/2012 7:35:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Obama's Huey Long-style government spending has showered benefits on illegals. That's ironic, because for the first time since the 1930s they would now rather live in Mexico. Maybe jobs matter after all.

At a Hispanic Community Action Summit led by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa this month, 39 federal officials from agencies ranging from ICE to the EPA courted hundreds of Hispanic activists with one message: Claim your government benefits.

They offered up goodies from food aid to educational benefits to help in fighting deportation.

The outreach, said a conference organizer, was based on a "community organizing" approach of asking Latinos what they wanted and giving it to them.

Well, according to a new study by Pew Hispanic Center, plenty just want jobs, not handouts. Mexican illegal immigrants — about 70% of the 10 million-plus illegals in the U.S. — are leaving America in droves.

For the first time since the Great Depression, more are going back to Mexico than are coming here. Pew estimates that 1.4 million Mexicans came to America in the five years ended in 2010, while the same number and their U.S.-born children returned home.

At about the same time, Obama has showered so much federal largess on the Hispanic community to shore up support for the Latino vote.

In addition to benefits regardless of immigration status, he's offered de facto amnesty by cutting down on deportations, saying U.S. policy will be to prioritize those who have committed crimes. By manipulating statistics to include voluntary deportations, he's managed to make it appear that deportations are up to 400,000.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; illegals; immigration; jobs

1 posted on 04/29/2012 7:35:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

CONSIDER THE CONTRAST IN FISCAL POLICY BETWEEN MEXICO AND THE USA ( Ignore crime and security issues for the meantime, just focus on FISCAL matters ):

Right now, Mexico is posting growth in the 5% range and has a government that practices fiscal discipline.

The country has signed 50-plus free trade treaties, and runs a pension system that’s privatized, like Chile’s.

That’s why jobs are there and Mexico’s unemployment rate is lower than ours. Mexican per capita incomes have crossed the critical $7,000 line.

The U.S., by contrast under Obama, has $15 trillion in debt, a big-spending government whose Senate hasn’t passed a budget in more than three years, a Social Security system running out of cash, and just 17 free trade pacts. Worse still, its business climate has faltered as regulation and ObamaCare costs drive out investment and keep jobs from forming.


2 posted on 04/29/2012 7:36:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Mexicans have a totally different cultural outlook then American Blacks. They are raised to work for a living and..move themselves and their families forward to growing opportunity and prosperity. Most Haitians & Caribbean Blacks have a similar culture. As do African Blacks. American Blacks, on the other hand, always have the hand stuck out looking for the “free” “Obama stash” i, the something for nothing credo. They, sadly to say, have been effectively brainwashed by their Plantation Owner, Economic, Slave Holder, leader class, starting with POTUS Barack Hussein Obama, The NAACP, and the Racist, Congressional Black Caucus.


3 posted on 04/29/2012 7:48:29 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, political ly!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

perhaps it is true that so many illegals are leaving due to economy.
I am skeptical and wouldn’t be shocked to see that as only an elelction year ploy.

I don’t see anyone illegal family that has dropped an anchor baby giving up all the bennnies we bestgow on them

But I live in Texas where if there has been any exodus it has been a tiny tiny number.


4 posted on 04/29/2012 7:48:41 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's about both,actually.....handouts far more than jobs.It would be very helpful,however,to pass strict Federal laws that seriously penalize *ANYONE* who employs an illegal..and then doggedly *ENFORCE* those laws.
5 posted on 04/29/2012 7:55:26 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: SeekAndFind
President Obama's Huey Long-style government spending has showered benefits on illegals.

At least the illegals are smart enough to know when to leave.

Unlike the generations of taxpayer dependents Long created in Louisiana who didn't have enough sense to leave before a huge hurricane almost wiped them off the face of the map.

6 posted on 04/29/2012 7:58:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: RWGinger
Part of this is climate related. Mexicans prefer Mexico to Chicago in winter. And, actually, once they go through a Chicago summer working outdoors in an overcoat they prefer Mexico to Chicago at any time of year.

Being unemployed in Chicago is also a much worse event than being unemployed in Mexico.

The Liberals err in imagining Mexicans ever prefer to live in the US outside of a few border areas in the South.

7 posted on 04/29/2012 8:02:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I have no problem with anyone coming here seeking a better life. Mexican, Cuban, Japan, whatever. AS LONG AS THEY GO THROUGH THE PROPER AND LEGAL IMMIGRATION STEPS, I have no problem with it. Come legally. Do it right. I welcome all who actually seek to come, work, and make a better life for them and be a productive member of society. We got enough of the home-grown deadbeats now. So, if these people come correctly, get a job, not become a burden to tax payers, then I welcome them.
8 posted on 04/29/2012 8:06:43 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a crock. They didn’t count them on the way in, and they can tell how many left?

Campaign of disinformation.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 8:07:28 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the Illegals head back to Mexico, do they take their “anchor babies” with them?


10 posted on 04/29/2012 8:22:37 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Here’s an even more interesting question which goes to America’s Tax laws... If an anchor baby ( born American by virtue of our laws ) were to go back to Mexico and eventually PROSPER when he grows up ( i.e. becomes a millionaire ).

Are his income and wealth (which he made in Mexico) TAXABLE in America?


11 posted on 04/29/2012 8:31:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: muawiyah

you posted
‘Mexicans prefer Mexico to Chicago in winter. And, actually, once they go through a Chicago summer working outdoors in an overcoat they prefer Mexico to Chicago at any time of year.”

i respectfully disagree
here from Hispanic biz link aug 2011
“After a steady increase of Latinos in the area due to births and immigration, one out of every three children under 5 in Cook County now come from a Latino ethnic background, according to the recently released data.

In Chicago, more than 40 percent of children younger than 5 are Hispanic. In more than 30 suburbs including Carpentersville and Franklin Park, more than half of preschool-age children are Hispanic. In a few communities such as Cicero and Melrose Park, more than 80 percent are Hispanic.

What that means for the area depends on how well local schools and other community institutions can absorb one of the country’s fastest-growing Hispanic populations, experts said.”

What that means is hundreds of thousands of illegal and illegals living off the dole


12 posted on 04/29/2012 8:38:31 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Mexicans were tired of doing the jobs American’s faking disability wouldn’t do...


13 posted on 04/29/2012 9:06:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Obama's father, grandfather and great-grandfather were polygamists.-ALL,including Obama ate dogs!!)
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To: RWGinger

I am with you. I dont believe ANYTHING the feds say. I dont believe there numbers to begin with.
There were twelve million here in 98. The entire landscape has changed across the country. Look at the radio and TV stations that have sprung up. They tell the story for someone who reads the numbers. (I would think)


14 posted on 04/29/2012 9:18:19 AM PDT by winodog
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To: RetiredArmy

I agree with you completely. My point is the Mexican and Canadian economies are blowing the USA Obamaland failed economy away!!!

And....Mexicans are going to where the jobs are, while American Blacks have their hand out for the “free” Obama stash handout while commiting crime, having unwed mothers, fatherless babies, multiple abortions, shooting dope, abusing children, dealing in drugs and serving no useful purpose to either themselves, their race or society in general.

And......no illegal immigrant, no matter where they come from should ever remain in the USA!!! Obama and the Federal Government have failed our nation miserably. Anybody But Obama!!!


15 posted on 04/29/2012 9:21:03 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: winodog

wino
and remember the tripe libs have spouted for years? that these people ‘assimilate”
BS
a Hispnic pew finding shows that 52% of hispanics identify themselves as hispanic first before being American. Even 3rd generation Hispanics.

and yet 87% felt life was better here.


16 posted on 04/29/2012 9:34:06 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s tough to make do on just what welfare gives you. They live well here working under the table and collecting welfare if they can’t work here they opt to collect welfare here and live in Mexico where they can stretch their dollars further.


17 posted on 04/29/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a very important point. People here have been cheering the supposed exodus of Mexicans, but all that it means is that we no longer have a growing economy.

Mexico has long been trying to get its population back (there are entire villages where all the young people have gone to the US) but didn’t have any lucrative work to offer them.

Well, now that Bambi has crashed our economy, I guess even living back in the old pueblo is looking pretty good.

Obama has been trying to make us a Third World nation, and he has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, setting us on a course to be even lower than your average Third World nation.


18 posted on 04/29/2012 11:01:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t believe this, or any of the other “more illegals leaving now”, story - not one goddam bit. Never. These people who perform these surveys, compile demographic data, etc. are just plain liars, period.

If anyone here believes that there are only 12 million illegals here as the government and media suggest, and that over 1 million of them left here last year, you are living in La La Land, frankly.

There are likely 30-40 million illegals here if you count the leeches who managed to drop an anchor baby here, there may be more.

Our ENTIRE support system here is geared up to lavish public and private services on these people. Schooling, even college tuitition breaks. AFDC, WICs, SCHIP, SNAP, housing assistance, you name it. Government (most local, state and Federal agencies) bend over backwards to push services in their face while not stigmatizing or turning their illegal asses in to the authorities.

I don’t believe for one minute. They are just trying to placate the undecided immigration fence straddlers that the problem isn’t so bad now and that we can move on now to amnesty.....Get the hell out of my country!


19 posted on 04/29/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RWGinger
You are confounding "Like" with "Put up with".

There are millions of other Chicago residents who are equally miserable, and who are not Mexicans, and they'd move if they could.

Chicago is NOT at all like Palos Verdes, or even Miami. It's much more like Marquette but with more snow.

20 posted on 04/29/2012 11:29:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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