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New England Fishermen Freak Out After The Government Closes The Bay Of Maine For Two Months
Business Insider ^ | 4/29/12 | ap

Posted on 04/29/2012 12:35:23 PM PDT by Nachum

BOSTON (AP) — Fisherman Lou Williams sees plenty of harbor porpoises, usually swimming in small pods well away from his boat, unlike the herds of lookalike dolphins that get close enough to ride his vessel's wake.

A place Williams doesn't see many porpoises is his nets.

"It's a rare occasion," said Williams, 55, who fishes out of Gloucester. "I don't think more than a couple this year."

But federal regulators say far too many porpoises in the Gulf of Maine are drowning in fishing gear, specifically the stationary nets that Williams and other fishermen use, called gillnets.

The estimated fatalities are so high, they triggered a provision in federal rules that will close a busy fishing ground that extends from Gloucester to southern Maine to gillnets for two months annually, starting this Oct. 1.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: england; fishermen; fishing; freak; mainefishing; new; newengland
Nice work, Obamsky. Let's see if the fisherman and their families remember you at election time.
1 posted on 04/29/2012 12:35:32 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 04/29/2012 12:36:42 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

What’s a few hundred more unemployed? Not even a drop in the sea of millions. Besides, it’s for the environment. The greenies have been trying to get rid of gill nets for decades anyhow.


3 posted on 04/29/2012 12:40:00 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Nachum
They've been giving New England fishermen a hard time for years. Still, the fools vote 'rat.
4 posted on 04/29/2012 12:40:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum; mainerforglobalwarming; maine-iac7; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; ...

I hope that this blows up in Obama’s face and that it backfires on his party as well.


5 posted on 04/29/2012 12:40:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Nachum

While the 0 admin may be struggling to get gas to $9 a gallon they certainly have figured out how to raise food prices.


6 posted on 04/29/2012 12:41:38 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: Nachum

“Crucify” the petrochemical sector. Then “crucify” fishermen. Up next...


7 posted on 04/29/2012 12:46:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"Still, the fools vote 'rat."

It's a workin' class thing, dontcha know.

Like why we always vote for a Kennedy.

That poor family's suffered so...

With the boys killed like that and the retarded daughter. It's just a shame.

8 posted on 04/29/2012 12:46:37 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Nachum

Remember the Spotted Owl? It killed logging and helped destroy a vibrant fishery. Now they are trying to take 200,000 acres more timberland out of the Western Washington Working Forests. We’re fighting back.

Obama likes to spread the pain. He’s got the medical marijuana folks here on the West Coast, a huge support group, furious calling for his departure. He’s burning his supporters like a Cocaine soaked blunt. Makes me damn happy, not at the pain, but the education folks are getting.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 12:46:50 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Nachum

Hmmmm. This starts the first of October. Let’s see if the fishermen, their families, and the local fish packers can remember that by the first Tuesday in November...


10 posted on 04/29/2012 12:46:50 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1195 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still...])
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To: JimSEA

The more jobs that vanish, the lower the unemployment rate goes. Works well for 0.


11 posted on 04/29/2012 12:50:50 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: hinckley buzzard

I want to kick all the idiots who were talking about how special it would be to have a “black” president. He’s not black! He’s a communist! Damn people are sloooow. They need to be soaked in piss before they realize they’re being pissed on.


12 posted on 04/29/2012 12:52:19 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Nachum

Now they can go back to hauling in bales of “found” pot again.


13 posted on 04/29/2012 12:55:40 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; randita; GOPsterinMA; JohnnyZ

So Obama wants to ground fisherman on the Gulf of Maine from October 1 to December 1 for no good reason? As bad as I feel for the fishermen, I can’t help but notice that the timing is *perfect* for the GOP, what with the U.S. Senate election and the competitive ME-02 race this November; and if this also affects some fishermen from Portsmouth, NH, it could help the GOP win the NH governorship, hold the NH-01 and lock up NH’s 4 EVs to get Romney to 270.


14 posted on 04/29/2012 12:57:23 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Nachum

Fewer jobs and higher food prices. 0bama be workin’ that Cloward and Piven.


15 posted on 04/29/2012 12:57:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: King Moonracer

Anybody got a list going on all the jobs and SPECIFIC JOB INDUSTRIES Obama has deliberately taking away from “Middle Class” Americans...

Here’s the start if one hasnt been started:

SPACE PROGRAM CUT 1,000s jobs lost
PIPELINE PROJECT VETOED 10,000s of jobs NOT given to US
FISHING in MAINE
ENVIRONMENTAL RULES COST 1000s in Louisiana after BP incident


16 posted on 04/29/2012 1:02:01 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: King Moonracer

Anybody got a list going on all the jobs and SPECIFIC JOB INDUSTRIES Obama has deliberately taking away from “Middle Class” Americans...

Here’s the start if one hasnt been started:

SPACE PROGRAM CUT 1,000s jobs lost
PIPELINE PROJECT VETOED 10,000s of jobs NOT given to US
FISHING in MAINE
ENVIRONMENTAL RULES COST 1000s in Louisiana after BP incident


17 posted on 04/29/2012 1:02:28 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Nachum

Just what will closing the bay for two months accomplish ???

If the death rate is so high two months is meaningless except for the political points earned...


18 posted on 04/29/2012 1:04:01 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: billorites
ROTF! I was in one of those New Sodom (NH) box stores last year, and they had a BIG display of that Kennedy book that was out at the time...there were several women that look just like that one standing around as if at a holy shrine; looking down at Teddy's photo on the cover; tears in their eyes.

I won't repeat what I said as I walked by...my wife hates to take me shopping with her...

19 posted on 04/29/2012 1:04:45 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

................October 1 to December 1 ...............

Yeah, right after the warmer waters of all summer long have made the fish nice and fat living off all the waters bounty, and before they leave the area on their migration routes.

Great,Zer0, kill another industry already severely hurting from over fishing and foreign factory boats.


20 posted on 04/29/2012 1:06:15 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Nachum

NOAA, right? National Oceans & Atmospheric Administration?

In Santa Cruz Calif NOAA is handing out $2500 tickets to anyone using a jet-ski to rescue someone who is starting to drown in surf.

Sounds made up? They’ve done it a bunch of times.

They say the jet-skis are a danger to otters.

In 20-foot waves? REALLY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7i7Te1QQaM


21 posted on 04/29/2012 1:16:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Nachum
But to keep the population healthy, the Marine Mammal Protection Act allows only a certain number of porpoises to be accidentally caught and killed annually.
Right now, the annual nationwide limit is 703, and the law requires regulators to bring the average down to a tenth of that, about 70 deaths annually, said David Gouveia, the marine mammal program coordinator the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Northeast office.
But federal researchers say 883 porpoises were snared on average annually between 2005 and 2009, the most recent years numbers are
[not?]available

Past time to sell the boat - regulation strikes!

22 posted on 04/29/2012 1:22:59 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Nachum

If I wanted America to fail ...


23 posted on 04/29/2012 1:23:49 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Nachum

Obama better worry about angering the first Wookie.....She’s not going to be happy if his actions cut into her lobster supply!! And Barry would look awfull funny with no arms......


24 posted on 04/29/2012 1:27:36 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Nachum

“Nice work, Obamsky. Let’s see if the fisherman and their families remember you at election time.”

Won’t matter if all the fisherman vote against Zero. Maine and Mass will be solidly in Zero’s corner.


25 posted on 04/29/2012 1:30:26 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Nachum

This Kenyan effer is channeling the greatest hits of Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe


26 posted on 04/29/2012 1:33:01 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; randita; JohnnyZ
“As bad as I feel for the fishermen, I can’t help but notice that the timing is *perfect* for the GOP...”

I (unfortunately) completely agree. WTH are they thinking? I suppose some of the economic damage will be mitigated by the fact that the ban won't be hitting during the summer tourist season. OTOH, the “leaf peepers” eat too. And they're going to want seafood, not KFC.

This could very well be the event that sets into motion the election scenarios you laid out, AuH2ORepublican.

27 posted on 04/29/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The stench of Earth Pimp-age is permeating over the internet...)
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To: princess leah; All

” Anybody got a list going on all the jobs and SPECIFIC JOB INDUSTRIES Obama has deliberately taking away from “Middle Class” Americans...

Here’s the start if one hasnt been started:

SPACE PROGRAM CUT 1,000s jobs lost
PIPELINE PROJECT VETOED 10,000s of jobs NOT given to US
FISHING in MAINE
ENVIRONMENTAL RULES COST 1000s in Louisiana after BP incident

He tried to destroy the family farm too....but the backlash was profound, so he backed off.


28 posted on 04/29/2012 1:33:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Still, the fools vote 'rat.

Had a long talk with some supposed big-shot among them once. Couldn't quite figure out where he was coming from on anything. Sort of a cross between Paul Bunyan and Albert Schweitzer.

29 posted on 04/29/2012 1:41:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Nachum

Shutting them down one month before the election. They’re out of work which will hurt their families and the local economy. Maine seafood prices will soar, hurting everyone.

Brilliant nobama. More! More!


30 posted on 04/29/2012 1:50:48 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Nachum
observers found pingers working properly on only 41 percent of observed hauls

If this were really about saving porpoises then the fishermen with properly functioning "pingers" would still be allowed to fish. This smells of some other agenda.

31 posted on 04/29/2012 1:54:08 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’ve been leaf-peeping around NH’s White Mountains on more than one October (my wife and I felt like the only tourists under 50, but we didn’t mind), and one of the best things about it was the fresh seafood brought in from Portsmouth all the way to the western edge of the Kancamaugus (sp?) Highway: fish chowder, am strips, lobster rolls ... my mouth is watering already. So you’re right, Obama’s fishing ban will affect not just Portsmouth and coastal Maine, but inland areas as well.


32 posted on 04/29/2012 2:08:35 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Nachum
(TED) Turtle Excluder Device
33 posted on 04/29/2012 2:16:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: stephenjohnbanker
He tried to destroy the family farm too....but the backlash was profound, so he backed off.

I don't think is is so much the prohibition, I believe the real point here is they are camouflaging going after the rural and farm kids he can not reach any other way through mandatory "Safety training."

The reg started like this...

“The new regulations, first proposed August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.”

...90-hour federal government training course....

And revoke the safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA?

WHY? There is nothing wrong with it.

Anyone care to guess what the 90 hours of “federal government training” will contain?

THEN they claim they are not going to do it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2877162/posts

Which is a lie as they come back with this the very next day...

"Instead, the Departments of Labor and Agriculture will work with rural stakeholders – such as the American Farm Bureau Federation, the National Farmers Union, the Future Farmers of America, and 4-H – to develop an educational program to reduce accidents to young workers and promote safer agricultural working practices."

Bingo.

This is exactly what I posted about the real intent of the "rule." They are trying to access the rural kids under the guise of a "safety training program" for distribution of indoctrination propaganda.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2876976/posts?page=47#47

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2876765/posts?page=39#39

My previous post...


Again, anyone care to guess what the 90 hours of “federal government training” will contain?

Perhaps something along the lines of what is in this?

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

In that >>> EXACT <<< same PUBLIC statement he said he would make federal assistance conditional on school districts establishing service programs and set the goal of 50 hours of mandatory service a year for middle school and high school students.

...90-hour federal government training course.... 4-H and FFA

Just as he was three years ago, he is attempting mandatory control of the kids. Only now the monster is going after the rural and farm kids he can not reach any other way.

With the power grab at family farms, he wanted to make himself the all powerful, all knowing fed-gov the ultimate authority, placing himself above the parents.

.

34 posted on 04/29/2012 2:18:06 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Unbelievable. The HAZMAT Tech course I took to go out and deal with and clean up methyl-ethyl-death in a level A suit was only 80 hrs.

This is for stuff that could me and thousands of others if things go wrong.


35 posted on 04/29/2012 2:23:50 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Clay Moore
The HAZMAT Tech course I took to go out and deal with and clean up methyl-ethyl-death

I took quite a few of those myself.

My favorite was Rad. MUCH easer/safer than Chem. Easy to detect, easy to protect.

The most fun was "Air Monitoring at Hazardous Material Sites." It was put on by EPA itself back before EPA drank ALL of the KoolAid.

Lots of egg-pensive toys...

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36 posted on 04/29/2012 2:37:19 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Nachum
too many porpoises in the Gulf of Maine are drowning in fishing gear,

I wish I could remember the FReeper here who claims dolphins are endowed with exceptional intlelligence. I'd ask him why they haven't figured out a way to avoid those nets....again.

37 posted on 04/29/2012 2:41:21 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: TLI

Seems like the Radiological officer, tech, and instructor courses were just 40 hrs each. It has been too many years.

Most of the memories from those were as a result of the powers that be calling every motel in the area and picking the one we stayed at based solely on price.

Asking for another room because the first one smelled of rotting flesh.

Coming out in the morning to thousands of broken beer bottles in the parking lot.

Half of the complex taped off with city condemnation posters nailed to the doors.

Being able to tell what people were wearing as they walked by through the gap in the door frame and the mice going through without breaking stride.

Yea, good times.


38 posted on 04/29/2012 2:53:24 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Nachum

This is wonderful news, I could never be happier about something like this. New England votes for these fascists year after year to force the rest of us to do what they think is best. Now they have to drink the dirty water themselves....


39 posted on 04/29/2012 3:11:17 PM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: Hot Tabasco

............who claims dolphins are endowed with exceptional intlelligence. I’d ask him why they haven’t figured out a way to avoid those nets....again...............

A very interesting thought!

I would think that the intelligence of the mammals in the ocean could be scared away by a particular underwater sound frequency that they would associate with danger. A cheap transmitter on the nets could do the job!


40 posted on 04/29/2012 3:29:11 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: hinckley buzzard
They've been giving New England fishermen a hard time for years. Still, the fools vote 'rat.

They are going to get paid, see:

Kerry Provision to Protect Massachusetts Fishermen Included in Senate Bill

To the tune of about $120 Million. That ought to buy a few fishy votes.

41 posted on 04/29/2012 3:29:29 PM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer)
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To: Hot Tabasco

............who claims dolphins are endowed with exceptional intlelligence. I’d ask him why they haven’t figured out a way to avoid those nets....again...............

A very interesting thought!

I would think that the intelligence of the mammals in the ocean could be scared away by a particular underwater sound frequency that they would associate with danger. A cheap transmitter on the nets could do the job!


42 posted on 04/29/2012 3:30:44 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
The White Mountains are such a great place to leaf-peep. It's gorgeous in the fall - nice pick.

“So you’re right, Obama’s fishing ban will affect not just Portsmouth and coastal Maine, but inland areas as well.”

Without the seafood, the Hell is there to eat here? And it's too bad that Gloucester, MA is in the banned area, because some of the best seafood eating is around that area; that's actually where I go when I need my seafood fix.

If you watch Lidia Bastianich on the Create channel, she did a show which featured Gloucester and its fishermen.

43 posted on 04/29/2012 5:19:02 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The stench of Earth Pimp-age is permeating over the internet...)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Still, the fools vote 'rat.

ahhh - we have a REPUBLICAN House,

a REPUBLICAN senate and

a REPUBLICAN governor. A governor, BTW, that is everything - and more - everyone THOUGHT Chis Christie was, but isn't.

44 posted on 04/29/2012 5:27:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: stephenjohnbanker
He tried to destroy the family farm too....but the backlash was profound, so he backed off.

He'll have 'more flexibility after the election" -

Translastion: biding his time 'til he's king and rules absolute with no reelection worries

45 posted on 04/29/2012 5:36:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7

I thank God, you are in Maine.


46 posted on 04/29/2012 5:51:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Noob1999
I would think that the intelligence of the mammals in the ocean could be scared away by a particular underwater sound frequency that they would associate with danger. A cheap transmitter on the nets could do the job!

We could probably even get them to emit "Danger! Danger! Swim away, swim away!" in Dolphin language.

47 posted on 04/29/2012 6:09:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“I hope that this blows up in Obama’s face and that it backfires on his party as well.”

Since we won’t be getting a conservative POTUS, no matter who wins, let’s hope we get conservatives in Congress, and you are doing a good job of alerting us to the conservatives running, Clintonfatigued.


48 posted on 04/29/2012 7:25:03 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Nachum
I'm a big outdoorsman and I hate unattended gill nets.

There is no target species, just anything & everything that swims.

49 posted on 04/30/2012 6:13:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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