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  • New England coastal communities threatened by feds' ban on cod fishing

    11/12/2014 9:57:04 PM PST · by george76 · 39 replies
    Fox News ^ | November 12, 2014
    Federal regulators slapped a six-month ban on most cod fishing off New England this week and are threatening to cut next year’s catch by up to 75 percent, in a move some say will destroy the livelihoods of fishermen across the region. ... NOAA announced several measures, including the ban which expands no-fishing zones, on Monday. But fishermen whose livelihoods rely on catching cod, as well as the coastal communities that depend on money coming in from that industry, worry the new regulations will devastate them.
  • Watch Out Fishermen! Obama Is Planning a “Seafood Fraud” Crisis

    06/22/2014 12:55:20 PM PDT · by Tolerance Sucks Rocks · 43 replies
    The Independent Sentinel ^ | June 20, 2014 | Sara Noble
    Obama has a plan to ruin the seafood supply chain with regulations and it’s gonna cost ya. Secretary of State John Kerry has found a new cause now that he’s fresh off his mid-East failures. He is directing federal agencies to work on developing a program to combat seafood fraud upon orders from the imperial president. This follows up Mr. Obama’s proclamation that he would implement his climate change agenda using a pen and a phone. It also follows Mr. Obama’s seizure of a huge swath of the Pacific Ocean for the government, making it inaccessible for drilling and fishing....
  • Hunters, Fishermen Targeted by Feds for Local Violations ( Lacey Act & Gibson Guitar )

    12/19/2013 6:49:35 AM PST · by george76 · 21 replies
    Newsmax ^ | 18 Dec 2013 | Jennifer G. Hickey
    U.S. law enforcement agencies are conducting thousands of investigations using a law that makes violating state wildlife statutes a federal crime, often ensnaring hunters and fishermen for seemingly minor infractions. Some even suffer stiff federal prison sentences. Special agents and wildlife inspectors for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service conduct about 2,500 investigative cases a year of violations of the Lacey Act, a 1900 law meant to combat illegal trafficking of wildlife. ... Rock star Ted Nugent, an avid hunter and fisherman .. "Good, decent families' lives are being turned upside down and ruined by out-of-control jackboot game agencies, particularly...
  • New England Fishermen Freak Out After The Government Closes The Bay Of Maine For Two Months

    04/29/2012 12:35:23 PM PDT · by Nachum · 48 replies
    Business Insider ^ | 4/29/12 | ap
    BOSTON (AP) — Fisherman Lou Williams sees plenty of harbor porpoises, usually swimming in small pods well away from his boat, unlike the herds of lookalike dolphins that get close enough to ride his vessel's wake. A place Williams doesn't see many porpoises is his nets. "It's a rare occasion," said Williams, 55, who fishes out of Gloucester. "I don't think more than a couple this year." But federal regulators say far too many porpoises in the Gulf of Maine are drowning in fishing gear, specifically the stationary nets that Williams and other fishermen use, called gillnets. The estimated fatalities...
  • Black Tiger shrimp are surfacing in the Gulf ( Texas )

    01/02/2012 11:20:36 AM PST · by george76 · 70 replies
    The Galveston County Daily News ^ | December 19, 2011 | Mike Gunning
    The giant Black Tiger shrimp that Ron Pockrus caught off the Texas coast might be the biggest threat to the $700 million Gulf shrimp industry to come along in years, marine biologists said. Pockrus, the owner of a 13-vessel shrimp fleet operating out of Brownsville, caught the 12-inch, 13-ounce specimen last week. Pockrus said he’s been aware of the species for about three years but hadn’t seen one. Now, he has turned in two to marine and wildlife officials this season. “I have another boat coming in with one on it now,” Pockrus said. “That makes the third one we’ve...
  • 6 New England lawmakers ask for new cod assessment

    12/17/2011 6:39:55 PM PST · by george76 · 14 replies
    ap ^ | Dec. 16, 2011
    New England lawmakers are asking the U.S. Commerce Secretary for an emergency assessment of the abundance of cod in the Gulf of Maine. ... The six lawmakers also are asking Bryson to freeze the cod catch limit at its current level until the study is complete. Fishermen are facing devastating cuts in cod catch next year
  • Men rescued after 33 days in Pacific

    12/11/2011 6:40:20 PM PST · by george76 · 22 replies · 1+ views
    AFP ^ | December 12, 2011
    TWO Kiribati fishermen have recounted their struggle for survival while drifting for 33 days in the Pacific before being washed ashore on a remote atoll and solving a 50-year family mystery. Uein Buranibwe, 53, and Temaei Tontaake, 26, told of their ordeal today when they arrived in the Marshall Island's capital Majuro from Namdrik Atoll, 560km from their Kiribati home ... After a month adrift their craft was washed into Namdrik, an isolated Marshall's atoll with a population of about 600 where the first residents they met took them to the only person on the island who spoke their language....
  • Sen. Scott Brown calls for firing of NOAA head ( fishing )

    10/22/2011 9:21:52 AM PDT · by george76 · 16 replies
    ap ^ | October 22, 2011
    Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown is calling on President Obama to fire the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, saying she’s worsened the fishing industry’s problems. Brown said Saturday in a press conference at the Gloucester waterfront that Obama should replace Jane Lubchenco. In a statement, Brown said Lubchenco was indifferent to the industry’s struggles and wrongly committed to a new management system he says is destroying fishing jobs.
  • EPA to preside over fish cases

    09/20/2011 5:34:07 PM PDT · by george76 · 28 replies · 2+ views
    NEWS-TIMES ^ | September 11, 2011 | mike shutak
    Commercial fishermen will no longer have their regulatory cases heard by Coast Guard Administrative Law Judges. Instead, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced that as of Thursday, Environmental Protection Agency ALJ’s will preside over all new fishing law enforcement cases. This measure is being taken in response to an inquiry made by the Inspector General into complaints by commercial fishermen that NOAA’s National Marine Fisheries Service’s regulatory system was being excessive with its penalties and actions. Jerry Slaff, NOAA public affairs officer, said the EPA will provide judges for regulatory cases for the next two years. He said NOAA...
  • Crony Capitalism Comes to the Fishing Industry

    02/11/2011 8:18:25 PM PST · by Vob · 17 replies
    American Thinker ^ | February 11, 2011 | Mike Johnson
    Michael Milken evokes thoughts of financial wisdom at a level far beyond that of an unsophisticated fishing industry essayist like me. So, when one of the sessions at the Milken Institute Global Conference 2009 is titled "Innovative Funding for Sustainable Fisheries and Oceans," I take notice. The panel for the fisheries session was moderated by Larry Bond, a consultant for the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF) and the speakers were David Crane, David Festa, Jerry Schubel, and Jason Winship. Two members from EDF and none from the fishing industry, oh, well. The audio of the session is fascinating, particularly that of...
  • ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’

    07/05/2011 8:41:32 AM PDT · by george76 · 36 replies
    Boston Herald ^ | July 3, 2011 | Jessica Fargen
    Captains issue S.O.S., claiming new rules meant to save the fish are killing their way of life. With the height of the New England fishing season getting under way this week, small family fishermen say controversial new rules are destroying their livelihood — forcing them to sell their boats and instead search for work as laborers on larger vessels. “It’s a death knell. It’s the beginning of the end for small fishermen,” said Rhode Island fisherman Joel Hovanesian, 54, who recently sold his boat. Plymouth fisherman Stephen Welch, 50, a father of two, said: “We’re in a crisis right now.”...
  • Joel Hovanesian: Government out to destroy local fishermen

    07/03/2011 3:45:43 PM PDT · by george76 · 20 replies
    Providence Journal ^ | January 6, 2008 | Joel Hovanesian
    As a lifelong commercial fisherman from Rhode Island who is involved with the regulatory process, I have one simple question to ask: Just what are we trying to accomplish with fish quotas? Federally, the science that drives the stock assessments and sets the quotas is so bad that industry has taken it upon itself to provide a better snapshot of many stocks of concern. Predictably, the picture is not nearly as dire as our federal scientists would lead us to believe. Recently, a side-by-side comparison was done, using the new multi-gazillion-dollar research vessel paid for with your tax dollars and...
  • Federal agency approves sea lion removal at dam

    05/16/2011 7:53:28 AM PDT · by george76 · 16 replies
    ap ^ | May 13, 2011
    Oregon and Washington have been given permission to resume removing or killing California sea lions at Bonneville Dam on the Columbia River, a federal agency said Friday. The decision by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration came about six months after a federal appeals court struck down a similar permit aimed at reducing the number of threatened or endangered salmon eaten by the hungry marine mammals. ... the California sea lion population is healthy, estimated at 238,000, while wild Columbia River spring chinook salmon are listed as endangered. ... NOAA Regional Director William Stelle said new data suggest sea lions...
  • Opinion: Fishermen are worse than BP?

    01/14/2011 8:52:40 AM PST · by Captain7seas · 6 replies
    SavingSeafood.org ^ | January 9, 2011 | Nils Stolpe
    OPINION: Fishermen are worse than BP? However, according to Jane Lubchenco, head of NOAA, in a statement in the Miami Herald on Dec. 30, in her estimation it wasn't BP and the biggest accidental oil spill that the world has ever seen or the wanton use, with her approval, of toxic chemical dispersants that was responsible for the dead turtles. It was fishermen. Last year's BP oil spill resulted in 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 million gallons of petroleum products being released into the Gulf of Mexico every day for three months. It was the largest accidental oil spill that...
  • Alaska sues over federal sea lion protections

    12/16/2010 7:19:41 AM PST · by george76 · 7 replies · 2+ views
    ap ^ | Dec 14, 2010
    The state of Alaska filed a lawsuit Tuesday in an effort to stop a federal agency's plan to protect endangered sea lions by restricting fishing in the western Aleutian Islands. According to Parnell's office, up to 900 people are employed by fleets in the areas where fishing will be restricted. It says the plan would cost fishery losses of tens of millions of dollars annually, and it believes the federal agency committed procedural violations that limited input from the public and experts.
  • Fishermen aim Vineyard protest against Obama

    08/24/2010 7:37:25 AM PDT · by Andy'smom · 15 replies
    The Boston Herald ^ | 8/24/2010 | Richard Gaines
    Leaders of the recreational and commercial fishing industry are planning a boat protest against federal policies Thursday outside the harbor of Vineyard Haven on Martha’s Vineyard, where President Obama and his family are summer vacationing. The protest is being organized after a bipartisan, bicameral coalition of federal lawmakers -- including the core of the President’s Congressional base on banking and health care issues -- have given up hope of working productively with Obama’s top appointee for oceans and fisheries, Jane Lubchenco, who heads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Boats from Gloucester and New Bedford, the hub ports of New...
  • Fishermen against Obama job destruction

    08/24/2010 10:10:14 AM PDT · by Nachum · 3 replies
    michellemalkin.com ^ | 8/24/10 | michelle malkin
    I spotlighted the neon green radical-led White House ocean grab last week that is undermining the health of the fishing industry. On Thursday, a fleet of fishermen will gather at Martha’s Vineyard to protest Obama’s destructive eco-policies. It’s just one more wave of the citizen backlash by thousands of victims of the White House war on jobs (flashback: Pushing back: Thousands of Obama’s drilling moratorium victims rally in La. ). From the Gloucester Daily Times via the Boston Herald: Leaders of the recreational and commercial fishing industry are planning a boat protest against federal policies Thursday outside the harbor of...
  • Anger, frustration on rise in Gulf disaster

    07/02/2010 6:22:35 AM PDT · by penelopesire · 20 replies
    CNN ^ | July 2, 2010 | Roland S. Martin
    "Rev. Edwards, with a black and gold Bible in hand, said it's time for President Obama to come to small towns like Pointe a la Hache and hear firsthand from the men and women who are scraping by, angry with the bureaucracy that is preventing the resources from flowing. He is still seething from a meeting last week with Kenneth Feinberg, the Washington, D.C. attorney President Obama appointed to oversee the $20 billion fund BP established to assist victims of the disaster. "This guy sounds like BP all the way," said Edwards, who didn't like what he said was Feinberg's...
  • Sick fishermen keep silent

    06/02/2010 8:48:30 AM PDT · by mlizzy · 29 replies · 961+ views
    CNN ^ | 6-2-10 | staff
    A fisherman's wife speaks out against BP, saying the oil is making fishermen sick. CNN's Elizabeth Cohen reports.(Click video to view.)
  • COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN HIRE PROMINENT ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYERS TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS

    04/29/2010 4:16:26 PM PDT · by Patriot1259 · 11 replies · 247+ views
    Stuart H. Smith of the law firm Smith Stag, LLC, New Orleans, Louisiana has assembled a working group of lawyers from Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida to prosecute claims for those who have been affected by BP’s Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Commercial fishermen and shrimpers have filed a class-action lawsuit against BP and owners of the oil rig for economic losses stemming from the disaster. The lawsuit was filed late on Wednesday, April 28 in U.S. District Court in New Orleans.
  • U.S. Fishermen Demand Changes to Federal Fishing Limits

    03/10/2010 4:01:06 AM PST · by sheikdetailfeather · 33 replies · 912+ views
    Fox News ^ | February 25, 2010 | Fox News
    Fishermen and charter boat captains from Maine to Louisiana rallied outside the Capitol Wednesday to demand changes to federal fishing limits they say are putting them out of business
  • 748-pound shark caught off Fort Lauderdale coast

    10/06/2009 3:42:25 PM PDT · by ConservativeStatement · 4 replies · 907+ views
    Fishermen captured a 748-pound shark just 18 miles off the Fort Lauderdale coast, WPLG-Ch. 10 reports.
  • Head of Iraqi Navy Pays Surprise Visit to Iraqi Fishermen

    12/30/2008 3:29:50 PM PST · by SandRat · 3 replies · 450+ views
    UMM QASR — Rear Adm. Jawad, commander of the Iraqi Navy, paid a surprise visit to a group of Iraqi fishermen Dec. 21. Jawad and a group of Coalition leaders were returning from a visit to Iraq’s offshore oil platforms when he decided to board a fishing dhow near the entrance to the Khawr Abd Allah. “The admiral decided he wanted to go alongside one of the Iraqi fisherman,” said Royal Navy Capt. Paul Abraham, Maritime Strategic Training Team commander. “Just to talk to them, see how the fishing was going, and to let them know the Iraqi Navy was...
  • Man-eating tigers stalk fishermen in India

    09/15/2008 11:20:55 AM PDT · by george76 · 26 replies · 139+ views
    The Associated Press ^ | 9/14/08 | Sam Dolnick
    JHARKHALI, India — The fishermen were hauling in the first net of the morning when the tiger pounced. Kumaresh Mondal managed to run a few steps before the 450-pound beast knocked him down with a leap, tore into his throat, and dragged his limp body into the dense mangrove forest.
  • Australian fishermen net 500-pound squid (20 feet long; OF COURSE there are pictures :-))

    05/26/2008 10:26:35 AM PDT · by Stoat · 40 replies · 1,297+ views
    AP / Various others ^ | May 26, 2008
    Australian fishermen net 500-pound squid 4 hours agoMELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Australian fishermen have hauled up a 20-foot-long giant squid off the country's southeastern coast.Skipper Rangi Pene said Monday that the 500-pound squid was already dead when it was caught in a trawler's nets Sunday night in waters more than 1,640 feet deep.Paul McCoy, a fisheries research biologist, said it took 10 men to lift the squid onto a stretcher and place it in a storage freezer in the city of Portland. A museum will collect it this week.McCoy said an analysis by the museum would determine the type...
  • 22 N. Korean drifters executed after return home: source

    02/16/2008 10:01:05 PM PST · by TigerLikesRooster · 27 replies · 308+ views
    Yonhap News ^ | 02/17/08
    22 N. Korean drifters executed after return home: source SEOUL, Feb. 17 (Yonhap) -- A group of 22 North Koreans who had been returned home after their boats drifted into South Korean waters were all immediately executed by North Korean authorities, a source here said Sunday. Two fishing boats carrying the 22 North Koreans, including 14 women and three teenagers, drifted into the western waters off South Korea's Yeonpyeong Island on Feb. 8 and were sent back home after South Korean interrogators found they had no intention to defect, the National Intelligence Service said in a press release on Saturday....
  • House bill would help citrus, spinach growers, salmon fishermen (3.7B, farm disaster relief)

    03/15/2007 7:16:21 PM PDT · by NormsRevenge · 8 replies · 369+ views
    California citrus farmers would get $20 million, spinach growers $25 million and salmon fishermen $60.4 million in an emergency war spending bill that passed a House committee Thursday. The money for citrus and spinach growers is part of $3.7 billion for farm disaster relief in the bill, including $1.8 billion for crop loss assistance and $1.48 billion for livestock compensation. Farmers in California and other states would be able to apply for that crop and livestock money. The relief comes as part of a $124 billion war spending bill - including $95.5 billion for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq...
  • Fishermen rescued after 9 months adrift 8,000 km from home

    08/19/2006 2:24:19 PM PDT · by Valin · 68 replies · 2,934+ views
    National Post; ^ | 8/18/06 | Mary Vallis and Natalie Alcoba
    Three Mexican fishermen who disappeared in the Pacific Ocean nine months ago have been rescued nearly 8,000 kilometres from their home, saying they survived by eating seagulls, drinking rainwater and reading the Bible. A Taiwanese tuna boat scooped the men out of the water about halfway between Hawaii and Australia on Aug. 9. They had drifted all the way from San Blas, a fishing village about 160 kilometres north of Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, where they were last seen in late October or early November, 2005. Fishermen in San Blas, a hamlet of about 8,000 people, are celebrating the men's astonishing...
  • Basques Were Fishermen More Than 8,000 Years Ago

    06/13/2006 3:13:58 PM PDT · by blam · 13 replies · 897+ views
    EITB24 ^ | 6-13-2006
    Basques were fishermen more than 8,000 years ago 06/13/2006 The Basques that settled 8,300 years ago in the Jaizkibel Mountain near the Basque coast were skillful enough to go fishing two kilometres out to sea. The human beings that lived in the Basque Country in the Mesolithic, more than 8,000 years ago, set sail out to sea fishing, something which meant 50 percent of their diet, Aranzadi society of sciences reported Tuesday after examining archaeological remains found in Gipuzkoa. They did not hunt whales, as their descendants many years after, neither tuna nor anchovy as the current Basque fishermen but...
  • Russia - 500 fishermen stranded on ice floe

    01/30/2006 12:24:51 AM PST · by HAL9000 · 16 replies · 451+ views
    Agence France Presse | January 30, 2006
    ABOUT 500 fishermen were stranded on a large ice floe off the island of Sakhalin in far eastern Russia, officials said today. Rescuers had managed to take 15 people off the ice using motorboats, Russia's emergency situations ministry said. A strong wind was pushing the floe out to sea and officials were preparing to use a hovercraft and helicopters in the rescue effort, Russian news agencies reported. Despite repeated warnings from authorities, fishing through holes in the ice remains popular in Russia and fishermen often stray far from the shores of lakes and seas.
  • Australia: Fishermen released after court fails to find translator (It gets better)

    05/19/2005 12:06:26 AM PDT · by Stoat · 24 replies · 853+ views
    ABC News (Australia) ^ | May 19, 2005
    Fishermen released after court fails to find translator Charges against nine Indonesian fishermen have been withdrawn in the Darwin Magistrates Court because an interpreter could not be found to translate their obscure sea-faring language.Nine Indonesian fisherman were apprehended in the Australian fishing zone almost five nautical miles from the Ashmore Reef. They have been in custody since late March.But in court today all charges against the fishermen were withdrawn because an interpreter could not be found in Australia that spoke a discrete sea gypsy dialect, called bajo. While only six of the fishermen spoke bajo the Crown Prosecutor said...
  • The Littoral Truth

    01/06/2005 2:12:28 PM PST · by anymouse · 19 replies · 1,263+ views
    London Spectator (Registration Required) ^ | 8 January 2005 | Andrew Gilligan
    The staff of Unicef’s Sri Lanka operation are in their Colombo offices dealing as best they can with a flood of desperate people, people at the end of their tether, people in overwhelming need of immediate help. CNN’s Christiane Amanpour, for instance. Ms Amanpour, or at least her producer, wants two orphans, preferably brothers who have lost at least six other members of their families, please, on the coast road between Bentota and Galle, tomorrow after two o’clock local time for a Sri Lanka — Land In Turmoil prime-time special. It is now 7.30 p.m. When approached by his assistant...
  • Italy Arrests Egyptians for U.S. War Cemetery Plot

    10/05/2002 6:31:05 AM PDT · by veronica · 35 replies · 527+ views
    Reuters ^ | 19-05-02
    ROME (Reuters) - Italian police said Saturday they had arrested three Egyptian fishermen suspected of plotting to attack a cemetery of American war dead south of Rome. Explosives and maps highlighting the Nettuno American Cemetery and Memorial in the town of Anzio were seized in an apartment in Italy belonging to one of the men, a police official said. "They were preparing a symbolic attack against the American cemetery," the official said, adding police suspected the men were tied to Islamic terrorism. The Egyptians, aged 30 to 45, were arrested Friday but have not been formally charged. Police said they...
  • Lawmakers may put price on wildlife watching

    03/23/2004 7:59:30 AM PST · by neverdem · 11 replies · 159+ views
    The Denver Post ^ | March 18, 2004 | Steven K. Paulson (AP)
    People who enjoy watching animals like deer and elk in state wildlife areas should be required to buy a pass instead of forcing hunters and fishermen to bear the cost of wildlife management, wildlife advocates said today. State lawmakers said they may take up legislation next year that would require everyone using those areas to buy a wildlife habitat stamp. Eddie Kochman, who retired as state fisheries manager after 35 years, said the Division of Wildlife is facing a crisis in long-term funding. He said hunting and fishing are crucial to Colorado's tourism industry but the division needs to find...
  • The Perfect Storm: The Twelfth Anniversary of the Disappearance of the Andrea Gail

    10/31/2003 8:13:46 AM PST · by mrustow · 101 replies · 2,402+ views
    Toogood Reports ^ | 2 November 2003 | Nicholas Stix
    This weekend is the twelfth anniversary of the disappearance of the 70-foot, longline swordfish boat, the Andrea Gail, which went down in the last days of October or the first days of November. For the past week, I’ve been watching a rented VCR of The Perfect Storm, the movie version of that disaster, based on Sebastian Junger’s 1997 novel of the same name. Before the movie even begins, you know it’s going to be special. As the Warner Brothers logos appear in turn, and we are told that this is based on a true story, we hear the slow, pensive...
  • Monkeys with hot tubs

    05/02/2003 4:07:33 PM PDT · by WaterDragon · 3 replies · 288+ views
    Oregon Magazine ^ | May 1, 2003 | Michael O'Brien
    There's a recent television commercial most of us have seen, which involves a tourist losing his credit card in the jungle. It deals with security and protection issues for the cardholder. After posing the question, 'Who's going to find it here anyway?' - the scene shifts to a raucous disco party, featuring bejeweled, champagne-popping monkeys in a hot tub, whooping it up on the man's lost credit card. Last May, when the Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commission traveling road show appeared in Tillamook County, a full house at the Fairgrounds, which included legislators and candidates, made it very clear to...
  • Green Party isn't worth a lick

    09/06/2002 5:33:50 AM PDT · by Valin · 11 replies · 369+ views
    Mpls (red)Star Tribune ^ | 9/6/02 | Dennis Anderson
    <p>Minnesota hunters and anglers, their numbers approaching 2 million, each year contribute hundreds of millions of dollars toward conservation in the state. Much of the money is paid through license fees and self-imposed taxes on fishing and hunting gear. Funds also are voluntarily contributed to conservation and environmental groups to enhance and protect the state's wildlife habitat.</p>
  • John Harrigan: Stirring pot with simple fishing column

    08/11/2002 9:20:38 AM PDT · by Bowana · 24 replies · 403+ views
    The Manchester Union Leader ^ | August 11, 2002 | John Harrigan
    John Harrigan: Stirring pot with simple fishing column By JOHN HARRIGAN Woods, Water and Wildlife IF YOU really want to stir the pot, write something about smallmouth bass invading a trout pond, and the moral aspects of "reclamation," i.e., poisoning. That was the theme of last week's column, the discovery of smallmouth bass in Pittsburg's famed Back Lake being the example. A longtime reader from Exeter posted the column in the New England Sportsman Network's Web site chat room. By the time I looked at the site Wednesday, 41 highly opinionated people had chimed in, in addition to the 29...