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College student locked away, forgotten in DEA holding cell for four days, no food, water or toilet
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 5/3/2012 | Jeff McDonald

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:06:17 AM PDT by Shane

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To: mountainlion
I guess I can,t read.

I CAN'T READ - Harry Nilsson

No, I can't read this damned book
No matter how hard I squint and look
And I'll never find out how the story goes
My eyes used to be so good
But now my prespeopia shows
Yes, it shows

I can't read cuz my eyes are so damned bad
I can't read, I can't read a damned thing
I can't read no matter how much light
I can't read, I can't read any more

61 posted on 05/03/2012 6:52:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Why I don’t feel outraged?”
1.You’re a cop?
2. It wasn’t your family.
3. You don’t believe in the Constitution?
4. Don’t think it could happen to you, see 1.
5. Haven’t been reading about the Secret Service so you think the Feds hire top quality people.
6. Never talked to a former DEA agent?


62 posted on 05/03/2012 6:53:39 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rawhide

$1000? They tortured him for four days and nearly killed the guy! Now, he’s been introduced to meth by the DEA and surely will have psychological problems for years. I think that figure is a bit low.


63 posted on 05/03/2012 6:55:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

People are sure giving you some hell. I know you better than that, so I was polite. But yeah you blew this one. :)


64 posted on 05/03/2012 6:55:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: VanDeKoik

>If ever there was an example of “cruel and unusual punishment” this is it.<

Well said. The posters that are chiming in with comments that this college student “deserved” this treatment better remember that if a government agency can treat some kid who smoked pot like this and get away with it, they sure can get away with treating anyone for any reason the same way.

There need to be more than a few firings over this incident.


65 posted on 05/03/2012 6:58:12 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Shane

We’ll be seeing more of this in the days to come.


66 posted on 05/03/2012 6:58:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Shane

“I am deeply troubled by the incident that occurred here last week,” the statement said, without mentioning Chong by name. “I extend my deepest apologies to the young man and want to express that this event is not indicative of the high standards that I hold my employees to.


Wow. His kidneys have been destroyed and thats the best they can do.


67 posted on 05/03/2012 7:00:40 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Shane
So when the case gets to the Supreme Court the defence will be lead by Eric Holder?
68 posted on 05/03/2012 7:04:26 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Shane

I can’t help but think that if this kid was African American how this would have made world-wide news and everyone involved would have already been fired and had their heads chopped off by Sharpton’s minons. But he is not so it may last 2 weeks in the news cycle.


69 posted on 05/03/2012 7:06:52 AM PDT by 3rdcoastislander
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I am not a fan of the DEA, nor am I sympathetic to a druggie getting caught. While 4 days in a cell without water, food or toilet is excessive, this is a healthy 23 year old and he was not beaten, tortured or denigrated in any way by his captors.


No water to the point where his kidneys are destroyed? Thats not torture? Where the hell do people like you come from?


70 posted on 05/03/2012 7:12:36 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: bgill

How in the world did the meth get there? And how did all of a sudden they ‘realize’ that he ingested it unless they were keeping an eye on him and waiting until he ingested it. Why? So he would finally test positive and all the DEA agents would be absolved?

Someone had to have known he was in there in the conditions he was left in. $20 million is a good number. And all the agents involved put on the stand to detail their participation in this abuse of an American.

Is this the start of that new policy about indefinitely detaining Americans determined to be a threat and not even having to file charges against them that BO so desperately wanted?

Yet despite the blood of an American and hundreds of Mexicans on his hands, Eric Holder walks free.


71 posted on 05/03/2012 7:16:19 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: rawhide

The $20 Mil is punitive. Its to make sure the govt doesn’t do it again. $1,000 isn’t going to get their attention.

I’d award that kid $20 mil right now just based on what I read. We are not China yet.


72 posted on 05/03/2012 7:18:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: varyouga
He’s just an engineering student that smoked some pot.

I take it you're a pothead too?

73 posted on 05/03/2012 7:21:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm confused.

We get outraged because we have photos of Ubama smoking pot, but we don't get outraged about other people smoking pot.

Which way do we want it?

Or do we want it both ways, just like the Lefties?

74 posted on 05/03/2012 7:24:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Shane

There is no limit on punitive damages in such a case. If it’s only $20M the government will be lucky.


75 posted on 05/03/2012 7:25:41 AM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We can be outraged over people smoking pot all we want.

We just can't lock them in a room with no water for four days, permanently damaging their kidneys.

You understand now. You're welcome.

76 posted on 05/03/2012 7:34:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
NOT COOL.

Because someone doesn't agree with you DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO DRUGS.

Shape up.

77 posted on 05/03/2012 7:35:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: Lazamataz
I simply don't care about druggies.

It does not pay.

They will screw you over first chance they get.

They can do whatever they want. They will get no interference from me in any way whatsoever. Or support.

78 posted on 05/03/2012 7:36:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: pabianice

How can any award be punative to the gov’t? It will not be paid with their dollars...the dollars are yours and mine.


79 posted on 05/03/2012 7:36:35 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Lazamataz
You seem to like being a bully.
80 posted on 05/03/2012 7:37:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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