Posted on 05/06/2012 9:27:17 AM PDT by tcrlaf
MINUTE BY MINUTE
6:01 p.m. From our special correspondent in Paris, since the room Mutuality (where Sarkozy is speaking): "A diplomatic source, it is our responsibility that the UMP has canceled the planned public gathering tonight Place de la Concorde".
5:30 p.m. The first results indicating a victory of Nicolas Sarkozy, François Hollande, by 53% against 47%, were confirmed in "Evening" this Sunday at 5:30 p.m. by an informed source close to the Rue de Solferino, the Paris headquarters of the French Socialist Party.
5:06 p.m. According to the French Ministry of the Interior, the turnout would reach 71.96% stake to 17.00. It was 75.11 in 2007.
16h45: New indications supplied by pollsters based on surveys conducted during the day. Harris Interactive poll: 53% Netherlands - 47% Sarkozy Sofres poll: 53% Netherlands - 47% Sarkozy Opinion Way poll: Netherlands 52.5% - 47.5% Sarkozy
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During the past six months we pretty much got out of the stock market, reducing our debt, refinanced our mortage at 3 3/8% and now we are waiting.
US is at the tipping point. Europe tipped a while back. There are more votes for free stuff than there are workers. It will never get better until or unless something catastrophic occurs. Like another World War started in , you guessed it, Europe. I see no path for the Eurozone to satisfy their debts, their promises and their goofy third way economies. It’s gonna all come unglued I think.
Today the majority of French and Greek people have decided that the best remedy for the economic collapse wrought by decades of socialism is more socialism.
I do agree with you. Europe, California, Illinois, etc, show the destructive power of government dependence. In certain ways one could argue that voluntarily sliding down the rat hole of socialism is almost worse than violent communist takeovers. At least when countries throw off the shackles of communism they often discard near everything associated with it. It is clear the democratic socialist systems fail too (albeit more slowly), but the majority dependent don’t seem to be able to accept that the social welfare components of the system are the core of the problem.
Future generations of conservative people are going to have to be certain, when constitutions are re-written here, Europe and elsewhere, that socialist schemes are more specifically written out of them. It is obvious our founding fathers never would have approved of what we are doing, but the constitution was vague enough that it has allowed leftists the loopholes they need with which to ram through their “progressive” policies.
Bon Jouir my Froggy Friends!
Say Good Bye to your paychecks as the Marxists tax you to death and cut the work week to 20 hours....
and give your lazy shiftless peons 90 days paid vacation a year...
and Muslims flood into your country by the Millions!!!
go straight onto welfare and start rioting for more consessions.
you French love your Culture??? what a laugh! in 50 Years you wont be able to find anyone that speaks it.
“Granted that this is devastatingly bad for France, why is it bad news for the US? Is this at all positive for Obama?”
You see this clearly. It is now up to every conservative American (I know, that’s redundant) to make a clear connection between France, Greece, and the Dem party throughout the election period. Everytime a leftist makes a comment, say “Greece”. If someone says Obama is not that bad or they have always been a Dem or anything else Dem, say “Greece”. This puts them immediately off balance and keeps your point brief but strong. Every time you meet a leftist, say “Greece”. You don’t have to say anything else—it will be up to them to figure out what to say and they will have a really tough time thinking of a counterpoint.
I believe the next few days will provide excellent counter-Dem news. The challenge will be to get the information to American voters that what is now happening in France and what has already happened in Greece is simply Obamanomics.
Watch how economics reacts to France’s voting behavior.
“The return of socialism... People never learn.”
The French people haven’t yet felt enough effect from their spending habits.
The Greeks have felt it but haven’t yet figured out they can’t vote a return to profligate spending. They feel they have to actually embrace more strongly the socialists who got them into their mess hoping it will return everything to the way it was before. Someday, it will become more generally clear those socialists can’t print prosperity any longer.
Many of the socialists alive today will never change their beliefs and will romanticize their past till their dying days. Expect change to come from younger Greeks who want a better future and are willing to try something different.
Recently, someone pointed out that young, educated Greeks are lining up to get into other countries where they can seek a better future. Greece will never recover from their exit.
This only hastens the inevitable. Nothing can change what is coming down the pike.
It is a mescaline fantasy to think that any of these countries are going to give up cradle to grave socialism.
We are next in line.
Quit praying that there will be some sort of last minute epiphany and solution, there or here. Not going to happen. People should be devoting whatever available resources they have towards preparation for what is coming.
CNN saying that the French Elections are telling REPUBLICANS that cutting to what you are spending WILL NOT WORK.
HOW DO THESE IDIOTS FUNCTION IN NORMAL SOCIETY?
Yes, I fear. Freeloaders in the US have grown exponentially since Obama started handing out borrowed money by the truck-load to them... they'll vote for more of the same.
Meanwhile conservatives don't have a candidate to stop the madness - hence the US will continue to roar toward the same abyss.
I wonder what this will mean for the political world, both locally in France and globally with the USA, Europe, etc?
That term for those countries has been around a long time.
woohoo, barry has a new BFF.
But we’re still one step ahead of France. We elected a socialist/communist muslim.
I sincerely hope you’re right!
However, the media in this country is going to promote this as a big win for Leftism and Obama specifically. I don’t know what bald faced lies and BS they’ll spout, but they’ll try to make it the meme of the week/month/etc, as Hollande goes forward and probably sustains, at least temporarily, a honeymoon period with the French press and the voters.
Will the sheep here fall for it?
I sincerely hope you’re right!
However, the media in this country is going to promote this as a big win for Leftism and Obama specifically. I don’t know what bald faced lies and BS they’ll spout, but they’ll try to make it the meme of the week/month/etc, as Hollande goes forward and probably sustains, at least temporarily, a honeymoon period with the French press and the voters.
Will the sheep here fall for it?
This time they are going to try socialism with no where to go to pay for anything.
We are about to witness the collapse of France.
Their translator produces some pretty informal outcomes.
Plug ‘ce pula mea’ into the Romanian side and see what happens.
For socialism to "return", it would have to have left in the first place. France has always been socialist, no matter what label they call themselves. Ask "conservative" Nicholas Sarkozy how he feels about universal health care.
Does it really matter who leads France?
The French proving once again they have no men.
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