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Gay-marriage advocates fear setback in North Carolina
msnbc ^ | 5/8/2012 | Miranda Leitsinger

Posted on 05/08/2012 1:55:11 PM PDT by tobyhill

Opponents of a constitutional amendment to define marriage in North Carolina say they’ve faced an uphill battle in getting their message out about the broad impact of the proposed change, with the latest polling showing that the state will likely follow 30 others in approving anti-gay marriage measures.

Voting began early Tuesday on the amendment and candidate races in the 2012 primary, but 512,000 people -- or 8 percent of registered voters -- already have participated through absentee ballot, according to the State Board of Elections. That record turnout surpassed even the 2008 primary, which included Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the ballot, according to Democracy North Carolina.

The amendment, also known as Amendment One, would make marriage the only domestic legal union that would be valid in the state. But opponents say the measure is unnecessary since North Carolina already has a statute in place banning gay marriage, and it could jeopardize domestic violence protections for women and affect health benefits for domestic partners.

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Recent polling by Public Policy Polling, a group that works for Democratic candidates and progressive causes, finds the amendment has the support of 55 percent of the state's voters, with 39 percent against.

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1 posted on 05/08/2012 1:55:20 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Did my part at about 8AM this AM. My little old polling place had a line which it usually does not especially for “just a primary”.

My pet peeve - those stupid “I voted” stickers are lame beyond words. On my way out I *very politely* told the guy at the door that I did not need or require a sticker and he seemed so taken aback - almost like I was leaving a store without paying for an item. Whatever.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 1:58:18 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: tobyhill

“and it could jeopardize domestic violence protections for women and affect health benefits for domestic partners.”

Hogwash. Domestic violence will still be a crime and nothing prevents anyone from entering into a contract.


3 posted on 05/08/2012 2:00:05 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill
NC’ers, if you haven't voted yet, hurry. Liberals are not a majority in this country; they just get most of the attention. We can save this republic—starting today.
4 posted on 05/08/2012 2:01:14 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: tobyhill
Opponents of a constitutional amendment to define marriage in North Carolina say they’ve faced an uphill battle in getting their message out about the broad impact of the proposed change, with the latest polling showing that the state will likely follow 30 others in approving anti-gay marriage measures.

Of course they face an uphill battle, because the public is actually getting a say rather than some unaccountable judge or a bunch of leftist legislators in safe seats. Homosexual marriage always fails whenever the people get to vote on it, even in leftist CA and OR.

5 posted on 05/08/2012 2:02:50 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: tobyhill; AT7Saluki

Checked ‘yes’ for amendment one today. Got to vote for Mr. Newt, too!


6 posted on 05/08/2012 2:08:10 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: YankeeReb
“Opponents of a constitutional amendment to define marriage in North Carolina say they’ve faced an uphill battle in getting their message out....”

Huh? Almost every TV station, many churches, schools and colleges, every single newspaper, and many radio stations have fallen over themselves “helping us understand” how we need to embrace gay rights, including gay marriage. Hollywood and Washington chimed in. It's hard to think of a celebrity, other than the Billy and Franklin Graham, with the courage to stand up to the Gay Agenda folks. We've been inundated with Gay propaganda in NC. Asheville is the new Key West. Can't get their message out?

Wah-h-h-h-h!

7 posted on 05/08/2012 2:14:35 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
FWIW....

I vote in a deep red precinct. At 7:30, I was voter #121. Lines were out the door.

I'll wait until the votes are counted, here, but I think that the Marriage Amendment passes, and Dems get a real slapdown.

8 posted on 05/08/2012 2:22:27 PM PDT by wbill
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

You could have taken the “stupid” sticker and left it at that.

But that would have shown class.


9 posted on 05/08/2012 2:23:27 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: July4

Give them credit - they’ve managed to invert the old adage and are now blaming the messenge and not the messenger!

Twitter was absolutely awash in PC tweets today so this ‘uphill battle’ is the usual rubbish.

What a lot of cowards who lack any sort of self-awareness. They can’t comprehend opposition when they’ve been coddled for life.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 2:24:52 PM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: tobyhill

Allowing SSAD (same sex attraction disorder) marriages diminishes the term marriage for everyone of us normal people.

If they want and must have state sanctioned unions call them fudge packers, beaver unions, SSAU (same sex abnormal union)but leave the normal people alone.


11 posted on 05/08/2012 2:27:50 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: tobyhill
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Don't worry about a thingee ... LBGT folks ...

Mitt Romney will soon ride in to save your political bacon ...


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12 posted on 05/08/2012 2:37:47 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin "will win" the 2012 GOP Nomination in Tampa !)
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To: Libloather
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Thanks !


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13 posted on 05/08/2012 2:38:33 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin "will win" the 2012 GOP Nomination in Tampa !)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Are Santorum, Gingrich or others on the ballot there besides the final 2?


14 posted on 05/08/2012 2:38:38 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: tobyhill
...with the latest polling showing that the state will likely follow 30 others in approving anti-gay marriage measures.

I am tired of the slant! They could just as well stated, "...with the latest polling showing that the state will likely follow 30 others in approving marriage protection measures."

It gets on my nerves the way every dang news source panders to the LGBT crowd! Screw them and the horse they rode in on - oh wait, never mind!
15 posted on 05/08/2012 2:55:36 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Jacquerie

You could have not eaten the cornflakes that someone unfortunately peed on this morning but that would have required an above room temperature IQ.


16 posted on 05/08/2012 3:09:39 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: JediJones

Are Santorum, Gingrich or others on the ballot there besides the final 2?


Yes.


17 posted on 05/08/2012 3:11:00 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I always stick my sticker on the dash of my car. Struck my blow against communism about an hour ago.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”


18 posted on 05/08/2012 3:11:38 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: tobyhill

Approved by 30 states, must mean that more voters support traditional marriage than homosexual unions. Get a clue MSNBC the people do not want this.

It was unusually crowded at the poll when I went at 12:45 today.


19 posted on 05/08/2012 3:16:23 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
The poll workers in my precinct are friends who volunteer to man the polling place for twelve hours.

Unlike your poll workers, they don't get snarky comments, from condescending jerks like you or otherwise.

Capiche?

20 posted on 05/08/2012 3:32:07 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

LOL my absentee ballot from NC arrived last week, and it had a sticker paperclipped to the ballot. I laughed at it...did they really think I was going to stick it on and wear it around northern VA, confusing most people and making myself look stupid to the rest?! I gave it to my 4 yr old, who is quite sticker crazy.


21 posted on 05/08/2012 3:34:19 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: Libloather
Checked ‘yes’ for amendment one today. Got to vote for Mr. Newt, too!

So did I! I had to wait in line about half an hour which is unusual in a primary election. The state-wide races had several people running for each position. I did some research and tried to vote for the most conservative one I could find. Also, I did NOT vote for our incumbent representative Walter B. Jones. He claims to be a conservative, but his record shows otherwise. BTW, It still makes me uncomfortable to see directions for voting posted in Spanish. IMO, in order to vote in America you should be able to read the voting directions and the ballot in English!

22 posted on 05/08/2012 4:03:01 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: tobyhill

When folks are actually allowed to VOTE on the issue, ‘gay marriage’ is defeated with very few exceptions.


23 posted on 05/08/2012 8:04:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: tobyhill

The whole line used by opponents about how the amendment is unnecessary because state law already bans gay marriage is one of the most deceptive parts of a campaign based on lies and deception.

They know full well that the state law has no power against activist state courts, and they are the very ones who would seek to have state courts overturn the law and impose state recognition of same-sex unions in NC.

I’d have so much more respect for them if they’d run an honest campaign for once and say “yes we support gay marriage, and we oppose the amendment because we want to have the option of (in the absence of you rubes agreeing with us or in the absence of a federal court decision) having state judges impose gay marriage on NC.”

But now it’s on to the federal courts. And while victories like the one today in NC are heartening, they won’t mean anything if Anthony Kennedy decides to invoke his sweet mystery of life type of jurisprudence instead of the sane, rational, Constitutional thinking he displays on Second Amendment issues. The Left wins is greatest victories in the Culture War in the Sup Court; this will be no different.


24 posted on 05/08/2012 8:43:48 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: tobyhill

My Church does not recognize state authority over marriage in any way. Marriage is essentially a contract between two people and any two people can enter into a contract at will for any reason.


25 posted on 05/08/2012 10:17:05 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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