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George Zimmerman Case: Should Charges Be Dropped?
ABC News ^ | May 21, 2012 | Matt Gutman

Posted on 05/21/2012 5:39:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it true that under Florida’s mandatory 10-20-Life law that Zimmerman, if convicted of ANY felony in which someone died of a gunshot wound, will have a MANDATORY 25-to-life sentence, even for 2nd degree manslaughter (if that’s a felony)?


61 posted on 05/21/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: crosshairs
I think Hannity went to Beauty College, as much as he admires himself.

You don't have to like Hannity, but IMHO he deserves respect for having worked his way through college, a concept foreign to much of today's youth. Dishwasher, busboy, waiter, bartender, construction jobs; try to get YOUR (general comment, not you specifically, crosshairs) spoiled kids to do those jobs!

I'm happy to have him on our side, even if he is wrong now and then.

62 posted on 05/21/2012 6:37:52 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Ironfocus
Do you have a link?

I would like to see that

63 posted on 05/21/2012 6:40:53 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: verga

Here you go..also mentions this was scrubbed from his Youtube account soon after his death.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/newly-discovered-video-previously-scrubbed-from-youtube-shows-trayvon-martin-participating-in-local-fight-club/


64 posted on 05/21/2012 6:44:08 AM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: Gargantua
Given what he'll receive in book advance(s), movie rights, and out-of-court cash settlements from the Florida State, County, Police and prosecutors when he immediately slaps every one with an open-and-shut charge of improper arrest and professional negligence compounded with severe mental anguish and slam-dunk life-threatening related causation, he'll be able to buy a South Pacific island... and a colored staff to run it!
I sure hope you are right. I would love to see it.
65 posted on 05/21/2012 6:44:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Cboldt
I'd say the evidence has the muzzle of the gun no more than 3 inches from Martin's skin.

Isn't it obvious? There was a struggle for the gun and it went off accidentally.

66 posted on 05/21/2012 6:46:09 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Newt --named after Isaac Newton?)
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To: SamuraiScot
-- There's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman kept pursuing St. Trayvon after the operator said that. The Narrative Media took that quote by itself to imply that Zimmerman ignored it and kept going, since a fight occurred thereafter. --

FWIW, the prosecutor makes the same error in the affidavit in support of the charging document.

She has to be basing that assertion on DeeDee, because other than DeeDee, all the evidence contradicts Zimmerman following (and the recorded evidence of what the dispatcher said contradicts what the prosecutor claims).

[the dispatcher] instructed Zimmerman not to [follow Martin] and that the responding officer would meet [Zimmerman]. Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher and continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home.
So says the prosecutor. The prosecutor can't come close to proving that, as DeeDee herself has Martin moving away from his "home" after reaching it; and the site of the fight is 70 yards from Martin's "home." If DeeDee's testimony is cherry picked (set aside what I just noted), she is the ONLY source for "Zimmerman continued to follow Martin." The recorded call with dispatch appears to contradict this cherry-picked narrative; as it has Zimmerman losing sight of Martin.

At any rate, I think it is worth remembering that the press has been told, by the prosecutor, that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin [after Zimmerman lost sight of Martin], and that it isn;t the press making this up out of whole cloth after listening to Zimmerman's recorded conversation with dispatch.

67 posted on 05/21/2012 6:48:48 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"There is no second-degree murder evidence in this case," Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said. "It's a very close case."

HUH? He contradicts himself in two sentences.

There is no credible evidence against Zimmerman and he will walk eventually. Then Holder will get him and he will do time.

68 posted on 05/21/2012 6:52:53 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Liberty Wins
-- Isn't it obvious? There was a struggle for the gun and it went off accidentally. --

I'm not sure of that, although is not unreasonable speculation. On the side that the firing was a deliberate act by Zimmerman, we have Zimmerman saying "I shot him" instead of something like "the gun just went off."

The purpose of my post was to provide the evidence outside of what the coroner said, to narrow the range of distance between the muzzle and Martin. Because there is no witness to the moment of the shot, and at least Cutcher and her roomie Selma have said there was no fighting just before the shot rang out (after they said they couldn't hear fighting at all), the prosecutor and maybe investigator Serino though it possible that Martin had separated himself from Zimmerman before being shot. If the shot is from a foot and half, it makes that "separation before shot" scenario possible. No so much when the distance is 3 inches.

69 posted on 05/21/2012 6:56:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Graybeard58

By the time the murder trial, if it even occurs, is over, Mr. Holder will be a private citizen with absolutely no power over Mr. Zimmerman, unless the stupid party falls on its sword again and lets Barry win.


70 posted on 05/21/2012 6:58:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: sickoflibs
Welcome to Obama’s united America...

Think of it this way - we're starting to have that real discussion on race - not the fake one liberals wanted us to have - but the real one... where both sides get to speak.

71 posted on 05/21/2012 7:02:36 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the charges are dropped based on “Stand Your Ground” he cannot be re-tried and no civil suits against him are allowed

If Obama/Holder are still in office, Zimmerman can and will be "retried", technically not "retried" but factually that's what it is. He will be charged, tried and convicted at the federal level for "hate crimes". This is not without precedent either.

72 posted on 05/21/2012 7:04:08 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Ironfocus

Thank you, now to get the Lame stream media to bring this out. Yeah I know I am not holding my breath.


73 posted on 05/21/2012 7:06:40 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: GOPJ
RE :”Think of it this way - we're starting to have that real discussion on race - not the fake one liberals wanted us to have - but the real one... where both sides get to speak

That is exactly how liberals phrase it. They repeat over and over how white America must join the discussion on race; all the while shouting down anyone who disagrees with them and calling them racist.

Obama’s entire past before the Presidency is off limits because any discussion of his past is racist.

74 posted on 05/21/2012 7:09:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ABC referred to Geraldo Rivera as a “conservative”!!!1


75 posted on 05/21/2012 7:09:19 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: GOPJ
RE :”Think of it this way - we're starting to have that real discussion on race - not the fake one liberals wanted us to have - but the real one... where both sides get to speak

That is exactly how liberals phrase it. They repeat over and over how white America must join the discussion on race; all the while shouting down anyone who disagrees with them and calling them racist.

Obama’s entire past before the Presidency is off limits because any discussion of his past is racist.

76 posted on 05/21/2012 7:10:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Cboldt

“FWIW, the prosecutor makes the same error in the affidavit in support of the charging document.”

She’s not making an error, she has access to ALL the evidence. What she’s doing is deliberate politically motivated malfeasance and why she should be disbarred and jailed.


77 posted on 05/21/2012 7:12:14 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: MtBaldy
-- She's not making an error, she has access to ALL the evidence. What she's doing is deliberate politically motivated malfeasance and why she should be disbarred and jailed. -- I hope she gets it.

But my point was to distinguish the malfeasance as between the press and Corey; and, not that I like to do it, cut the press some slack for repeating the official narrative of events.

78 posted on 05/21/2012 7:17:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: yldstrk
Re: "he got himself a problem when he did pursue."

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From the evidence dump. - Witness said she looked out her sliding glass door and saw “two men chasing each other".

79 posted on 05/21/2012 7:18:51 AM PDT by anglian
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To: verga

They won’t but the Zimmerman defense will.


80 posted on 05/21/2012 7:25:14 AM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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