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The Zimmerman case disintegrates
humanevents.com ^ | 21 May, 2012 | John Hayward

Posted on 05/22/2012 5:35:29 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: The Great RJ
The case should never make it to a jury. For that to happen stupid bioch Corey has to convince a judge that the evidence presented is enough to convince a jury that Zimmerman is likely guilty of murder 2.

There is no way possible with the crap she presented so far, and I can see nothing short of an eye witness that saw the entire thing, start to finish, that could do that.

21 posted on 05/22/2012 6:45:09 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: griswold3

He’s as bad as they get:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/trayvon-martin-familys-lawyer-benjamin-crump_n_1390757.html


22 posted on 05/22/2012 6:45:44 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: marktwain
Zimmerman’s lawyer also cautiously conceded that more evidence may be in prosecutorial hands, as yet unreleased to either him or the public.

This was the great mystery during the entirety of the Duke Rape Hoax. Freepers and MSM pundits alike often wondered, "surely, Nifong must have something in his file that makes a case?" -- and he never did.

23 posted on 05/22/2012 6:47:47 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: marktwain; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; OneWingedShark
does Zimm have availability to file countercharges against ALL of these entities at this point, even before his *trial* begins...???

if so, he should set the ball in motion, and since JustUs is looking into fed hate crime charges, which could carry a death sentence, he outta seek a death sentence on the lot of em in return, with a deprivation of Rights/conspiracy suit...

24 posted on 05/22/2012 7:07:16 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

Zimmerman has no ability to have a government prosecutor file charges on his behalf.

He will ultimately have the ability to file personal lawsuits, not criminal cases, against a whole host of people.

In personal lawsuits, you cannot ask for a death penalty.

Only the government has the ability to seek and execute a death penalty.


25 posted on 05/22/2012 7:46:11 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Gilbo_3

BUMP


26 posted on 05/22/2012 8:37:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Paladin2

Perfect


27 posted on 05/22/2012 8:39:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

“The purpose of law enforcement is to protect the public, not appease certain segments of it.”

Best quote in the article.


28 posted on 05/22/2012 8:42:44 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: marktwain

Corey should be made to reimburse the cost of the Zimmerman bail bond.


29 posted on 05/22/2012 8:49:24 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: trebb
-- I thought the process of discovery required the prosecutors to release all evidense to the defense - else, how can the defense do its job? --

O'Mara and Zimmerman get everything the state has, except the state's opinions and legal analyses. The public gets less than what O'Mara and Zimmerman do (but Zimmerman can make this material public too) in that anything in the nature of a "confession" is not a public record. So Zimmerman's interrogations and walk through are not public documents. They are not released to the public by the state, but they are given to Zimmerman.

30 posted on 05/22/2012 8:52:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: samtheman

Crump should be sanctioned by the state bar. loss of license for one year perhaps.


31 posted on 05/22/2012 9:00:55 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: Gilbo_3

An officer of the court, using the law to harass an individual, should receive the same penalty the individual would have received had the falsehood been successful.


32 posted on 05/22/2012 9:14:23 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: txrangerette

Except that it seems fairly obvious to me that the government agents have violated the law; Sec 241 & 242 of US Code Title 18.


33 posted on 05/22/2012 9:16:47 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
My question for them is, why do you so desperately want an injustice to have occurred? Why are you not content or satisfied that Zimmerman did what he had to do to protect himself?

Not only perceived victimhood, but a general lust to "get whitey."

34 posted on 05/22/2012 10:42:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: South Dakota; varmintman
On paper the British had the advantage in the Battle of Denmark Straits, but the reality was far different. The lightly-built Hood was the last of "Fisher's Follies" and the fourth to fail spectacularly after relatively light punishment. The Prince of Wales was well-protected but was just off of her sea trials and was having serious mechanical problems that eventually took all but two of her guns out of action.

A better ship analogy to Trayvon is the SMS Blucher at the Dogger Bank. Whoops! The enemy actually has 12-inch guns, and we only have 8-inch guns! Uh-oh...

35 posted on 05/22/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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36 posted on 05/22/2012 11:14:01 AM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: OneWingedShark; Gilbo_3

The question was, could Zimmerman himself set in motion a prosecution of people who have done him wrong.

He cannot.

Nobody can do that.

Also the question was mixing apples and oranges as it asked not only could he set this in motion, but could he cause the death penalty to be applied simply because the Injustice Dept. is looking into possible federal charges which could carry the death penalty.

When actually, all he has available to him is lawsuits, which cannot carry a death penalty.

Let’s face it, the question was well meaning but a gigantic legal overreach.

Like Rush is always saying, I live in Realville.

You believe government officials have violated the law themselves in his case.

Other, duly constituted government officials, have to deal with them if they’re to be dealt with.

A wronged defendant can’t achieve that.


37 posted on 05/22/2012 11:48:07 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette; OneWingedShark
wow rangerette, *realville* would almost seem to be an insult to an honest question...

the simple and straightforward wording of the US code pertaining to deprivation of Rights, and conspiracy to do so, under color of 'law', and its penalties, would seem to be an avenue to seek, given a defense fund that would have the dollars to file and pursue the actions...

it doesnt seem like zimm should have to wait until the railroad is built before he plants demo on the structure...

38 posted on 05/22/2012 12:12:19 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: marktwain
One key to the case is which of the two men instigated the clash that left Martin dead.

As Dershowitz pointed out even if you start a fight you still retain your right to self defense to prevent death or serious bodily injury.

The prosecution says Zimmerman initiated the altercation when he "profiled" Martin that night, and then got out of his car to follow him.

The prosecution has absolutely Zer0 evidence to support that contention.
The defense does have evidence to refute it.

In the newly released documents, lead homicide officer on the case, Chris Serino of the Sanford Police Department, called the shooting "avoidable" had Zimmerman remained in his vehicle.

Officer Serino is a moron to say that and Angela Corey is a corrupt idiot to use that as a basis for prosecution.

I have to wonder if Officer Serino was holding a grudge against George Zimmerman because Zimmerman led the protest against the Sanford PD for not arresting the son of a Sanford PD officer who had sucker punched a homeless black man and knocked him out.

39 posted on 05/22/2012 1:10:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

Sadly, America does do show trials.


40 posted on 05/22/2012 1:10:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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