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Hawaii Verifies Obama’s Birth For Arizona Secretary Of State
Talking Points Memo ^ | May 22, 2012 | Nick Martin

Posted on 05/22/2012 9:14:44 PM PDT by Beaten Valve

A Hawaii official announced late Tuesday that the state gave Arizona’s top elections official the verification he wanted showing President Barack Obama was indeed born there in 1961.

The announcement came just hours after Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett backed away from his threats to keep Obama off the November ballot and apologized for embarrassing his own state with a conspiracy theory-fueled investigation into whether the president was really a natural born U.S. citizen.

It also followed weeks of back and forth between Hawaii and Arizona, with Hawaii officials saying they weren’t sure Bennett was qualified to be investigating the matter.

Here’s the full statement Joshua Wisch, the special assistant to the Hawaii attorney general, released at 11:35 p.m. ET:

(Excerpt) Read more at livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012; arizona; arizonabirthers; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; hawaii; indonesia; joearpaio; joshuawisch; kenbennett; kenya; naturalborncitizen; sheriffjoe; usurper
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Back room deal??
1 posted on 05/22/2012 9:14:54 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Beaten Valve

My first reaction..........BS!


2 posted on 05/22/2012 9:17:55 PM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Beaten Valve

This is a joke, correct?????


3 posted on 05/22/2012 9:18:12 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Beaten Valve
and have therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama.

shouldn't they be verifying he is NBC?

4 posted on 05/22/2012 9:18:52 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Beaten Valve

Actually, now they have a real document to look at.


5 posted on 05/22/2012 9:19:18 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Beaten Valve

Fact or Crap?


6 posted on 05/22/2012 9:19:35 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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7 posted on 05/22/2012 9:19:49 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Beaten Valve

Show it to the American people. Let it come under the microscope and see what is unveiled (or not).


8 posted on 05/22/2012 9:20:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Beaten Valve

Well that settles it and thnx for providing proof positive for all 2 C....


9 posted on 05/22/2012 9:20:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Beaten Valve; mylife

10 posted on 05/22/2012 9:20:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Beaten Valve

That would be my guess.

There was no way that they were going to allow a state to keep BO off the ballot.


11 posted on 05/22/2012 9:21:41 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Beaten Valve
Here’s the full statement Joshua Wisch, the special assistant to the Hawaii attorney general

Wisch. You can't make this stuff up.

12 posted on 05/22/2012 9:21:51 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Beaten Valve

I can hear it now ...

“Somebody got to Bennett. He was threatened.”


13 posted on 05/22/2012 9:22:10 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Beaten Valve

How did Hawaii verify his birth?


14 posted on 05/22/2012 9:25:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ckilmer
Actually, now they have a real document to look at.

There is nothing in the statement that says what the form of 'verification' was. We don't know if they have anything at all to look at

15 posted on 05/22/2012 9:26:08 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ckilmer
Actually, now they have a real document to look at.

I truly doubt this was a true vital document but some statement to the fact that Hawaii has something on file that says Obama was born there.

Hawaiian law provides that anyone can say they witnessed a birth in the state and they will provide a birth certificate.

In Obama's case, it's 'GIGO' or Garbage In Garbage Out.

16 posted on 05/22/2012 9:27:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Beaten Valve

Were they allowed to see all of 0bama’s records - name changes, adoption papers, etc. or just the composite crap that has already been put out?


17 posted on 05/22/2012 9:29:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Beaten Valve

And for a few bucks anyone can get a copy of my birth certificate. Why can’t we get a copy of his?


18 posted on 05/22/2012 9:29:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Beaten Valve
So...exactly what did they do? Prove the record they provided earlier, which Sheriff Joe's people investigaated and said was a fake was actually real?

Did they provide another document of birth?

Did they have pictures, did they have DNA, did they have unrefutable eye-witness testimony?

How did they verify it?

And what is this part about the Arizona Secretary of State apologizing for embarassing the state for a conspiracy theory fueled campaign? Is that what he said?

Sorry, all of this sounds completely fabricated and if the Arizona Sec of State did reverse, then it is because other ofrces are at work here somehow. They haven't had time to verify whatever it is Hawaii may have provided.

19 posted on 05/22/2012 9:30:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Red Steel

On second review, there’s no confirmation from Arizona’s Secretay of State, just comments from Hawaii.


20 posted on 05/22/2012 9:30:20 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Nachum

“Fact or Crap?”

Worse than “Crap” It gives Bennett an out the pansy, and provides the OBots propaganda like the clowns at this website TPM.


21 posted on 05/22/2012 9:30:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Beaten Valve

I became convinced a long time ago that the NBC issue would never go anywhere. There are way too many people in positions of power, such as congress and the SC, who refused to do anything about it.


22 posted on 05/22/2012 9:31:35 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: stansblugrassgrl
"My first reaction..........BS!"

I'll bet there were so many of those going up when it was read it sounded like the MTC! "Oh, BULLL!!"

23 posted on 05/22/2012 9:32:00 PM PDT by redhead (Libs can't win without cheating--Conservatives don't have to cheat to win)
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To: Beaten Valve

All I know is the form (and it was a copy of the form Obama showed to the public) on the White House website was a complete fabrication. Why? I have no idea.

For now, I’ll let this go, and now we need to focus on getting the man out of office.


24 posted on 05/22/2012 9:32:26 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Beaten Valve
It sure would be nice to see the response from an official source.
I looked and I don't see anything.

Using the wording at your link I only get 4 returns...
@Joshua Wisch " We have received information from Secretary Bennett that satisfied our requirements,"

So who is Nick Martin ?

25 posted on 05/22/2012 9:33:49 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Beaten Valve; All
So...here's what Bennett is supposed to have actually said:

“If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn’t my intent,” Bennett said in an interview with Phoenix radio station KTAR. “He’ll be on the ballot as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has.”

Bennett said he still intends to keep asking Hawaii for verification that Obama’s birth certificate is authentic. But he said he only plans to use Hawaii’s answer as a way to satisfy demands from constituents who remain unconvinced Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States and so therefore eligible to be president.

He also said he talked to Hawaii’s attorney general on Monday night and clarified what he is looking to have verified. He said he “reworded” his request and expects to receive a response from Hawaii officials “in the next 24 to 48 hours.”

Listen to his interview:

HERE

26 posted on 05/22/2012 9:35:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: freekitty

“How did Hawaii verify his birth?”

Like always, they just said it! No paper to back up their asertion. This a$$hat Bennett needs to go. Like Jan Brewer, he’s a weak-kneed jerk. McLame, Brewer, and now Bennett. Not an ounce of testosterone anywhere in AZ leadership, with the notable exception of Joe Arpaio.


27 posted on 05/22/2012 9:35:41 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Obama is killing Arizona.


28 posted on 05/22/2012 9:36:07 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: Beaten Valve
On second review, there’s no confirmation from Arizona’s Secretay of State, just comments from Hawaii.

TPM is an OBot website. Hawaii, the dishonest twerps, are playing games trying to get a jump on the propaganda.

Still too bad for the OBots that this has no effect on Sheriff Arpaio's Obama investigation. Heh.

29 posted on 05/22/2012 9:36:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Beaten Valve

Oh well, that explains why Obama has never provided a paper LFBC to any court, civilian nor military.

Not.


30 posted on 05/22/2012 9:37:40 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Beaten Valve

Arizona caved in yesterday. No need to confirm anything. So Hawaii can say anything they want and say they all agree and we can just get on with the coronation.


31 posted on 05/22/2012 9:37:40 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: donna

He’s doing a damn good job of killing the U.S. of America.


32 posted on 05/22/2012 9:39:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

And what verification was given? Someone gave their word in a phone call?

Thanks Beaten Valve.


33 posted on 05/22/2012 9:40:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jeff Head
Sorry, all of this sounds completely fabricated and if the Arizona Sec of State did reverse, then it is because other ofrces are at work here somehow. They haven't had time to verify whatever it is Hawaii may have provided.

Hope you're correct. We do jump the gun by reacting to the leftist media.

34 posted on 05/22/2012 9:43:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Terry Mross
I became convinced a long time ago that the NBC issue would never go anywhere. There are way too many people in positions of power, such as congress and the SC, who refused to do anything about it.

In other words; too many people in power could legitimately be killed, as treason is punishable by death, when it came out that they were involved in overthrowing the Constitution, or at least remnants thereof.

35 posted on 05/22/2012 9:49:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Beaten Valve
@Hawaii verifies Obama's birth records to Arizona
Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.
Hawaii—which has vouched for Obama's birth in the state several times—didn't bow to the request easily. The Aloha State told Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to prove he needed the records as part of normal business.
Wisch says Hawaii got what it needed.
It's not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy Bennett. A spokesman says he received the verification and will comment Wednesday.

36 posted on 05/22/2012 9:51:23 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SunkenCiv; Red Steel; Jeff Head

See #36. AP via Mercury News.


37 posted on 05/22/2012 9:53:18 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Beaten Valve

Wow that’s funny because before they said they couldn’t find it. My oh my, it must have been under a seat cushion.

“I’ve tried my best” he told us, “but so far I haven’t found anything that proves he was born in Hawaii. And it doesn’t help that Kenya keeps bragging about one of their homeboys pulling a fast one on the USA and getting elected President.”


38 posted on 05/22/2012 9:54:11 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: vette6387
This a$$hat Bennett needs to go. Like Jan Brewer, he’s a weak-kneed jerk. McLame, Brewer, and now Bennett. Not an ounce of testosterone anywhere in AZ leadership, with the notable exception of Joe Arpaio.

Yeah... and AZ could have made a BIG STAND against the injustice and overreach of the federal government.
I wrote an article up explaining how, it's for NM, but applicable in the general idea to AZ: here.

39 posted on 05/22/2012 9:54:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: philman_36
Nothing yet official at the Hawaii Department of Health Press Release listings page.

Nothing yet official at the Arizona Secretary of State News Room Page.

Sounds like we'll be getting more info tomorrow.
40 posted on 05/22/2012 9:54:27 PM PDT by ecinkc (ugh)
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To: Beaten Valve
"We have received information from Secretary Bennett that satisfied our requirements, and have therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama."

Hell I can verify he was born also. I can see he is living.

41 posted on 05/22/2012 9:54:39 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Oops I forgot the link

http://marty4650-spincycle.blogspot.com/2011/01/hawaii-governor-cant-find-obama-birth.html


42 posted on 05/22/2012 9:55:51 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Red Steel

Ah yes, Hawaii verifies ... and while they’re at it, did they verify Sun Yat Sen was born there too, and in Mainland China.


43 posted on 05/22/2012 9:58:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Red Steel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen

“...In March 1904, Sun Yat-sen obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on 24 November 1870 in Kula, Maui...”

Just saying.


44 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:47 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: doc1019
And for a few bucks anyone can get a copy of my birth certificate.

Maybe if they lie and say that they are you or a very close relative.

45 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:54 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: ecinkc
I would simply like to see what Joshua Wisch said. There isn't a single direct quote that I've seen yet, even in the AP article I linked to.
No quotation marks whatsoever in the AP article at 36.
46 posted on 05/22/2012 10:00:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: vette6387

Soros is behind this.


47 posted on 05/22/2012 10:01:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: philman_36; Red Steel

See my post 26 for a link to the Arizona Sec of State interview wheere he apologized. He looks a lot less sure of himself...or something, than he did earlier when calling Hawaii out.


48 posted on 05/22/2012 10:04:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: ecinkc
You might want to look some more since he's with the Hawaii Attorney General's office and not the two you've linked to.

Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie...
@Aloha from the Department of the Attorney General

49 posted on 05/22/2012 10:04:57 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wideminded

I have gotten birth certificates for several people that were not my relatives while doing research for a paper on genetics. As long as you are willing to pay, the states are willing to give up the information. Birth certificates are public record and therefore are available to anyone.


50 posted on 05/22/2012 10:07:36 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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