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‘Clean Coal’ Means No Coal
National Review Online ^ | May 25, 2012 | Nash Keune

Posted on 05/25/2012 2:59:09 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/25/2012 2:59:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Ah, the four branches of gov’t; Executive, legislative, judicial and .......... the biggie; “Regulatory”.


2 posted on 05/25/2012 3:02:06 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: neverdem

Hey Obambi...get the EPA to issue the sun a citation.....for not producing enough sun spots.....we facing about 400 years of mini ice age.


3 posted on 05/25/2012 3:03:27 PM PDT by spokeshave (If Obama is Lenin....and Van Jones is Trotsky.....where are Stalin....Mao....Pol Pot?)
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To: neverdem

Obama is using the EPA to introduce serfdom to the United States. He wants to live in the Manor House.


4 posted on 05/25/2012 3:04:36 PM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: neverdem
‘Clean Coal’ Means No Coal

If we can master "no heat combustion" we should be able to master "clean coal"!

Personally, I'm working on "nuclear energy" without splitting atoms.

5 posted on 05/25/2012 3:25:34 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: neverdem

Not just coal, but ALL forms of carbon-based energy fuels are prohibited by this line of reasoning. We cannot use wood, which is a carbon-based fuel, because in burning, it releases carbon dioxide back into the atmosphere, obviously a no-no. And clearly, all that energy locked away in the so-called “fossil” fuels, only puts more carbon dioxide into our pristine atmosphere when burned in the presence of oxygen.

News flash. Carbon dioxide is PLANT FOOD, and regardless of its source (burning “fossil” fuels, decay of organic material, exhalation of breath, shaking the fizz out of a carbonated drink, the warming of oceans, or from a volcanic eruption) ALL carbon dioxide gets recycled by the action of sunlight on living plant tissue which has the little miricle worker known as “chlorophyll”, which in the presence of water, converts the carbon dioxide into a marvelous substance generically called “carbohydrate”, but known variously as sugars, starches, cellulose, or lignins, all with similar chemical compositions made up entirely of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. One of the by-producs of this synthesis is oxygen, an element that does not exist in the free state without the presence of living material, and upon which so many reactions we deem useful in daily life depend, not the least of which is “living”.


6 posted on 05/25/2012 3:26:20 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: neverdem
Clean Coal means no Enviro-wackos.
7 posted on 05/25/2012 3:29:33 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: alloysteel

Does this mean that eating a High Carb diet will get me locked up?


8 posted on 05/25/2012 3:40:21 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: neverdem
‘Clean Coal’ Means No Coal

Just as "alternative energy" means "alternatives to energy."

9 posted on 05/25/2012 3:52:16 PM PDT by TChad
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To: neverdem
EPA EPA EPA.

What about DOE? They have lots of cool information about clean coal technology. The Obamites better get busy and scrub that, before somebody else notices.

A few years ago, there was more information on ways to refine most of the pollutants out of the coal, before it is burned. Now, they've incorporated a lot of "carbon sequestration" info.

I ain't a scientist, but this pumping of the carbon into the ground seems ridiculous to me, and another make-work scam for favored cronies like Solyndra. Kind of like lowering the level of the lake, by pumping the water to the bottom.

10 posted on 05/25/2012 3:54:51 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: BwanaNdege

You are uncommonly perceptive.

That is EXACTLY where this “command and control” approach to governing is headed to. First they starve us of energy sources, then they starve us, period.


11 posted on 05/25/2012 4:25:36 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: neverdem
After the EPA produced its finding on greenhouse gases, for example, it declared that it would start regulating carbon, thereby initiating the continual ratcheting-up process.

Oh, dear. I hope no EPA officials ever walk into a supermarket, drug store, furniture store, or nursery. Every single one of those places that I've visited recently was chock-full of carbon products. Even worse, the little carbon products offered at the nursery keep getting bigger and bigger, through sunlight-catalyzed addition of more carbon.

12 posted on 05/25/2012 4:26:05 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: neverdem
Already, 57 coal-fired plants have closed owing to the EPA’s regulations

That's one for each of the Obama states.

13 posted on 05/25/2012 4:35:43 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: alloysteel
If they can train us to accept their dictates as to WHAT we should (may?) eat, then getting us to acquiesce to Government controlling WHEN, WHERE and HOW MUCH we MAY eat is only a short step away.

"NYC Mayor Bloomberg: 'Government’s Highest Duty' Is to Push 'Healthy' Foods"

14 posted on 05/25/2012 5:01:12 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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15 posted on 05/25/2012 11:32:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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>>The EPA “believes this proposed rule will have no notable compliance costs associated with it,”

Just to make it clear, this is nothing more than a bald-faced lie. Carbon sequestration equipment for coal plants is barely at the demonstration phase. Even if it were something that we really need, which has not been scientifically established, no one can do it yet on the scale of a serious power plant (say 500 mW or better in capacity), let alone do it at no compliance cost.

This is a case of complete fantasy being used to justify a regulation fully intended to destroy the coal electrical generation industry, which will in turn greatly harm our economy or standard of living. As I like to say to fools supporting this: Don’t like coal? Don’t use electricity!

After seeing decision after decision of this nature coming from the Obama Administration, you really have to wonder if killing our standard of living isn’t their direct goal, and not just an unintended side effect of stupid Leftist policy.


16 posted on 05/26/2012 3:50:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: neverdem; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; SunkenCiv
Some kind of coordination going on....

Related thread :

CA: Air Resources Board to make webcast on ‘black carbon and other “short-lived” greenhouse gases. ‘

Webcast was scheduled with little notice....sudden.

17 posted on 05/26/2012 1:24:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: All
And we have this related thread:

Still at it: Gore blames ‘dirty energy and dirty money’ for ‘dirty weather,’ ‘extreme climate....

18 posted on 05/26/2012 2:22:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Boy. Are you folks getting steam rolled over.


19 posted on 05/26/2012 9:51:05 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: neverdem

Great links too! Thanks.


20 posted on 05/27/2012 3:01:05 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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