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Mexico left in the dark on Fast and Furious, ambassador says
The LA Daily Worker ^ | May 31, 2012 | Jamie Goldberg

Posted on 05/31/2012 7:27:12 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake

In March, Rep. Adam B. Schiff(D-Burbank) introduced legislation that would create two-year prison sentences for "straw purchasers," who acquire weapons to sell to Mexican gun smugglers. Currently, straw purchasers face probation or minimal jail time.

Yet he worries that Republicans may oppose the legislation in order to keep the focus on the Fast and Furious debacle.

"The Justice Department's inspector general is doing an investigation, and members on both sides of the aisle agree that we need to get the facts," Schiff said. "What I don't want is the continual use of this investigation for political purposes that distract us from the need to curb the problem at hand and focus on solutions."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; california; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; mexico; newmexico; texas
Ambassador Sarukhan better not hold his breath. This Inspector General 'investigation' will take longer than it took to build the pyramids.
1 posted on 05/31/2012 7:27:25 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: BillyBonebrake
Left in the dark. Were they, at the highest levels? Maybe so.

But, a few years ago, our alphabet news tools were telling us the Evil Gun Dealers in our border states were selling assault weapons to the cartels. And President Calderon was calling for more gun control for us, right along with the alphabets, Holder, and Obama.

As it turns out, our gubmint was coercing said gun dealers to sell. And the alphabets, Holder, Obama, and Calderon, they all want to ignore the truth. Why hasn't Calderon spoken out against F&F? His AG has, some of his lower-level pols have, but where's his two cents? Hmmmm?

2 posted on 05/31/2012 7:36:54 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: BillyBonebrake

“In March, Rep. Adam B. Schiff(D-Burbank) introduced legislation that would create two-year prison sentences for “straw purchasers,” who acquire weapons to sell to Mexican gun smugglers. Currently, straw purchasers face probation or minimal jail time.

Yet he worries that Republicans may oppose the legislation in order to keep the focus on the Fast and Furious debacle.”

Pure and simple it’s to setup the Republicans so they can make a grand showing of knocking them down.


3 posted on 05/31/2012 7:42:52 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: FlyVet
Interestingly this crapola allegation appeared in a number of what are considered serious military publications, not just the media whores at pubs such as Army Times. They seem to write their stories by dumbing down public information releases by the government. Even the very respected US Naval Institute ‘Proceedings’ carried what was billed as a ‘scholarly’ analysis of the border security situation that repeated the canard that gun shops in Texas and the SW were providing most of the firepower for the narcotrafficantes. It must be stated that several readers took the USNI to task for such sloppy vetting of a supposedly scholarly article and pointed out automatic weapons up to .50 cal were not found at gun shops in Arizona or anywhere else in the US. I suspect this was part of a concerted campaign by the US government to plant that meme in the discourse so conclusively that no one would question it and that it was part of a buildup for DOJ/BATF to try and advance a lot of stringent new gun control regulations.
4 posted on 05/31/2012 7:49:09 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: BillyBonebrake

King of Swamp Castle Adam: “Please! This re-coronation of King Barack is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let’s not bicker and argue over who killed who.”


5 posted on 05/31/2012 7:57:40 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: BillyBonebrake
>"Mexico left in the dark on Fast and Furious, ambassador says"

Lincoln used to read by firelight.

Thanks to our Dear Leader, and Ricky H, the Mexicans can now read by automatic machine-gun fire.

You're welcome Mexico.

6 posted on 05/31/2012 10:02:07 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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“Mexico left in the dark on Fast and Furious.....”

Mexico isn’t alone on this one. The people of America are still waiting for the impeachment and felony charges to come forward against O’dumbo and Holder. When is it going to happen, if ever?


7 posted on 06/01/2012 6:36:33 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: BillyBonebrake

Something stinks! Their pols were claiming 200 - 300 dead Mexicans from these weapons. Why isn’t the ambassador making claims for reparations for the families of the dead?


8 posted on 06/01/2012 6:48:25 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: FlyVet
Why hasn't Calderon spoken out against F&F?

Good question. What's your best guess?

9 posted on 06/02/2012 3:36:46 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: BillyBonebrake

Why doesn’t Mexico indict Eric Holder on several hundred counts of Negligent Homicide and put in an extradition request?


10 posted on 06/02/2012 5:28:45 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BillyBonebrake

Given that there are a lot of leftists in the Mexican Government, I find it very hard to believe that some didn’t know this was happening especially given the objectives of this administration. They may have had just enough plausible deny-ability for not knowing about the operation but had enough information from Holder to know what way they where trying to get the wind to blow, ie they think the same things so it wouldn’t be to hard to read between the lines on minimum information.


11 posted on 06/02/2012 5:29:54 AM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: BillyBonebrake

The meat of the article is here: “...[Mexican Ambassador] Sarukhan said, “the thinking that you can let guns walk across the border and maintain operational control of those weapons is really an outstanding lack of understanding of how these criminal organizations are operating on both sides of our common borders.”

“He added that the ill-conceived operation had “poisoned the wellsprings” of public opinion in Mexico, putting strains on the strides that had been achieved between the United States and Mexico in combating illegal gun trafficking.”

He also reiterated that Mexico is going ahead with it’s own investigation.

The DOJ’s IG “ingestimigation” is soon to enter its 19th month. If stuff like this happened in my company (or yours), there would be wholesale firings within 19 minutes and criminal charges brought before the day was out.


12 posted on 06/02/2012 8:08:59 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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It should be remembered that Cynthia Schnedar, the DOJ’s head IG until March, was very very very very closely associated with Holder in the 1990’s, as they worked out of the same office and worked on many cases together as teammates.

As for Michael Horowitz, her replacement, he’s a strong Obama loyalist, though when he sees no future in Obamamania, he may decide that doing his job supercedes personal loyalty, but don’t cross your fingers.


13 posted on 06/02/2012 8:14:33 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: GOPJ

Do I need to say it?


14 posted on 06/02/2012 12:59:35 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: cookcounty
[Mexican Ambassador] Sarukhan said, “the thinking that you can let guns walk across the border and maintain operational control of those weapons is really an outstanding lack of understanding of how these criminal organizations are operating ...

NONE of the guns had tracking devices... we were arming the drug cartels - period.

15 posted on 06/02/2012 2:16:57 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: cookcounty
>"guns walk across the border and maintain operational control of those weapons is really an" ACT OF WAR.

At least we weren't arming them with 747's like the Saudis did.

16 posted on 06/03/2012 3:44:09 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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